The Homosexuality Discussion Thread

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I think homosexuality is:

  • a problem that needs to be cured.

    Votes: 88 6.0%

  • a sin against God/Nature.

    Votes: 145 9.8%

  • OK as long as they don't talk about it.

    Votes: 62 4.2%

  • OK for anybody.

    Votes: 416 28.2%

  • nobody's business but the people involved.

    Votes: 765 51.8%
  • Total voters
    1,476
Denur
What makes him an extremist, where to draw the line between lunatic and not so lunatic?
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I'd say extremist is when there is no positive result when come forth from that action.

Of course, what is a positive result may be subjective...
 
Denur
What makes him an extremist, where to draw the line between lunatic and not so lunatic?
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A not-so lunatic might suggest segregating gays, or sticking triangles on them or something. Misguided, but we all have our phobias.

A lunatic thinks that a group of people who BY DEFINITION will not be breeding are nonetheless so dangerous that they need to be killed outright before they...infect us all with the gay?

The man is a grade-A fruitcake.
 
There's a guy on another forum I frequent that whinges about anti-homophobic-bullying campaigns being "subtle gay propaganda". TBH, the only thing that separates him from the skinhead thugs in Russia is that those thugs act with impunity in Russia, they wouldn't in a much more liberal country.

Also, I found this piece disturbing: [Rolling Stone]
 
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DK
There's a guy on another forum I frequent that whinges about anti-homophobic-bullying campaigns being "subtle gay propaganda". TBH, the only thing that separates him from the skinhead thugs in Russia is that those thugs act with impunity in Russia, they wouldn't in a much more liberal country.

Also, I found this piece interesting: [Rolling Stone]
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Interesting? I'd call that insane:crazy: I can't believe that kind of stuff is allowed to go on in the U.S. in 2013:tdown:👎
 
Johnnypenso
Interesting? I'd call that insane:crazy: I can't believe that kind of stuff is allowed to go on in the U.S. in 2013:tdown:👎
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If your talking about the Rolling Stone piece, it's utter drivel considering I grew up in that district(Coon Rapids, which borders Anoka) and while I recall being taught about homosexuality, there were never any teachers who tried to make it out to be a bad thing. Hell, my sex-ed class was taught by a lesbian!(there were also a few other openly gay teachers in the school)

Although I will say the school was rather lax on bullying in general, they once gave detention to a kid that grabbed my throat and threatened to choke me.:odd:
 
Justin
If your talking about the Rolling Stone piece, it's utter drivel considering I grew up in that district(Coon Rapids, which borders Anoka) and while I recall being taught about homosexuality, there were never any teachers who tried to make it out to be a bad thing. Hell, my sex-ed class was taught by a lesbian!(there were also a few other openly gay teachers in the school)

Although I will say the school was rather lax on bullying in general, they once gave detention to a kid that grabbed my throat and threatened to choke me.:odd:
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So you are current on the situation in those parts and you are saying the article in a national magazine is a complete forgery? Interesting...
 
Imari
A lunatic thinks that a group of people who BY DEFINITION will not be breeding are nonetheless so dangerous that they need to be killed outright before they...infect us all with the gay?

The man is a grade-A fruitcake.
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Worse than that, he's saying it should be done because his imaginary friend told him so.
 
Justin
If your talking about the Rolling Stone piece, it's utter drivel considering I grew up in that district(Coon Rapids, which borders Anoka) and while I recall being taught about homosexuality, there were never any teachers who tried to make it out to be a bad thing. Hell, my sex-ed class was taught by a lesbian!(there were also a few other openly gay teachers in the school)

Although I will say the school was rather lax on bullying in general, they once gave detention to a kid that grabbed my throat and threatened to choke me.:odd:
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I hardly find the circumstances leading to 9 suicides drivel.
 
WOW I haven't been on here for about 17 months..I used to read about tuning issues and lack of painting options, now it's homosexuality!! Times change.
 
Carbonox
I hardly find the circumstances leading to 9 suicides drivel.
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I'm not calling that drivel, I'm calling the article, mostly the way it's written based on seemingly 0 first hand experience, drivel. Plus, this policy was supposedly in effect for over 14 years now, why is there only so many suicides now?(The only suicides when I was in school were kids who couldn't handle breakups) And why did I not see the effects during my schooling, most of which was in that timeframe(graduated in 2007)?

Like I said, if anything there was a lack of punishment on bullying overall, not just bullying towards homosexuals(granted I think the biggest problem is that we don't teach our kids how to deal with it themselves non-violently). Which had the author actually done her job, she may have discovered, but instead she just kept with the usual sensationalism found in most modern media in the U.S.

I also take issue with how the article portrayed pretty much the whole district as Michele Bachmann wannabee's, but that's for a different thread.
 
browneyedman
WOW I haven't been on here for about 17 months..I used to read about tuning issues and lack of painting options, now it's homosexuality!! Times change.
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* This particular thread started over ten years ago, although to be fair, people also complained about those GT-related things a decade ago. We're a pretty diverse forum...and therefore very little is off-limits for discussion, if done so fairly.

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Justin
I'm not calling that drivel, I'm calling the article, mostly the way it's written based on seemingly 0 first hand experience, drivel. Plus, this policy was supposedly in effect for over 14 years now, why is there only so many suicides now?(The only suicides when I was in school were kids who couldn't handle breakups) And why did I not see the effects during my schooling, most of which was in that timeframe(graduated in 2007)?

Like I said, if anything there was a lack of punishment on bullying overall, not just bullying towards homosexuals(granted I think the biggest problem is that we don't teach our kids how to deal with it themselves non-violently). Which had the author actually done her job, she may have discovered, but instead she just kept with the usual sensationalism found in most modern media in the U.S.

I also take issue with how the article portrayed pretty much the whole district as Michele Bachmann wannabee's, but that's for a different thread.
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In Canada suicides don't get published in the paper unless the family comes forward and asks that it be done. Bullying, gay bashing, hate crimes are all things that weren't really talked about as much even 5-10 years ago so it may have been happening right under your nose and you wouldn't have known about it unless you heard it first or second hand from someone that knew the victim.

There is sensationalism in most reporting that's a given. But you can't argue with the fact that kids are committing suicide and directly blaming the kinds of things being reported in the article.
 
It takes a special level of hatred and bitterness towards your fellow man to try and get laws in place (or even succeed) that victimise an entire sector of society. If only these people could channel their energy into something more beneficial to society...
 
Johnnypenso
In Canada suicides don't get published in the paper unless the family comes forward and asks that it be done. Bullying, gay bashing, hate crimes are all things that weren't really talked about as much even 5-10 years ago so it may have been happening right under your nose and you wouldn't have known about it unless you heard it first or second hand from someone that knew the victim.
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First, in the U.S., they will report about anything.

Second of all, it has nothing to do with news reporting, word of things like suicide/deaths spread through schools as people there had friends at other schools. For instance, I knew about a kid from Blaine(borders Coon Rapids) that died in a car accident before his name was released to the public.

But you can't argue with the fact that kids are committing suicide and directly blaming the kinds of things being reported in the article.
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Did you read anything I wrote?

I was in school during the span this policy was supposedly in place, in the school district in question, yet never saw any issues involving gay students or teachers. Generally if something has been in place for 14 years without a ton of kids offing themselves until the last few years something else has gone wrong in that span(and an actual investigation should be done, not the ill-informed finger pointing that's so common these days and doesn't really solve anything).

I do think a lot of it has to do with things like Facebook and cyber bullying, but unless they use school computers to do the cyber bullying I see nothing the school can do about it(apart from some counseling).

*It should be noted that I don't agree with the policy, just the way the article was done.
 
A very on topic TV series (just 2 parts) is "Stephen Fry: Out There". In the series (2 hours in total) he looks at homosexuality and how it is treated across the world, as well as speaking to some interesting, powerful people on why they are homophobic. Available on iPlayer for us brits.
 
axletramp
It takes a special level of hatred and bitterness towards your fellow man to try and get laws in place (or even succeed) that victimise an entire sector of society. If only these people could channel their energy into something more beneficial to society...
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And yet, both sides of the political aisle do it regularly. Some not as blatant on these attacks on homosexuals, but supposedly all sorts of demographic groups are in a place to be regulated unfairly.
 
^It genuinely amazes me and scares me that men such as Molinov not only find themselves in position of power, but can also pass laws that condemn an entire section of a populace essentially just for existing.

Also, after watching both parts of the documentary, I have to commend Stephen Fry for his patience when talking & listening to the individuals who were "fighting" homosexuality. If it was me, I think I honestly would've given up very quickly, and I'm straight.
 
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NotThePrez
Also, after watching both parts of the documentary, I have to commend Stephen Fry for his patience when talking & listening to the individuals who were "fighting" homosexuality. If it was me, I think I honestly would've given up very quickly, and I'm straight.
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So much of what they think and say is based on ignorance a patient man will feel pity for them more than anything.
 

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