The Homosexuality Discussion Thread

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I think homosexuality is:

  • a problem that needs to be cured.

    Votes: 88 6.0%
  • a sin against God/Nature.

    Votes: 145 9.8%
  • OK as long as they don't talk about it.

    Votes: 62 4.2%
  • OK for anybody.

    Votes: 416 28.2%
  • nobody's business but the people involved.

    Votes: 765 51.8%

  • Total voters
    1,476
In other news, a couple of very good friends of mine just got married. After 36 years of being partners, they finally were able to tie the knot. They both bawled like big babies he said. :D Whether or not I agree with their lifestyle, I am genuinely elated and very happy for the both of them. 👍
 
In other news, a couple of very good friends of mine just got married. After 36 years of being partners, they finally were able to tie the knot. They both bawled like big babies he said. :D Whether or not I agree with their lifestyle, I am genuinely elated and very happy for the both of them. 👍

I'm wondering what this means. Agree or disagree about what? Being together with the one you love? I don't get it. What is there to agree or disagree with?
 
I'm wondering what this means. Agree or disagree about what? Being together with the one you love? I don't get it. What is there to agree or disagree with?

Pako, and I, live in a country where there is still a large morality debate about homosexuality. The point is that, no matter his moral opinion, two people in love finally being allowed to marry is a beautiful thing.

In other words, what he does or doesn't agree with doesn't diminish that. Digging into it more is looking for an issue that he is saying is unimportant to that fact.
 
@Danny: Well, I'm still happy for them. I guess my shallowness and lack of understanding affords me the luxury to be happy for a friend of mine that finally got to marry his life partner.

I guess there's still some benefits to being some redneck hick from the sticks, eh? :indiff:
 
Or if you'd rather a response without intensely shallow obfuscation, there isn't.
Well, there kinda is.

To folk who think that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice, it's little different from raising your kids Mormon or enjoying a recreational spliff. To be honest, it's a Good Thing that someone who thinks it's a lifestyle choice recognises that people whose choices they don't agree with has the same right to be miserable as anyone else, so a little slack might be nice.

That said, people who think it's a lifestyle choice might want to realise that you're basically saying that you don't agree with the whole "black" lifestyle but if they want to get married to the people they love, good on them. Bit 1950s.


Of course the reality is so gloriously in the middle that neither really makes much sense. Being gay isn't something you can class as a lifestyle choice (same way being black isn't), but stickin' it in a dude pretty much is a choice - the same choice heterosexual men make when they put it in a woman.

We didn't pick what type of person we fancy or why, but we do pick who we bang. While you're fully free to not approve of who someone bangs (that's a choice), doing so because of what type of person they fancy (that's not a choice) isn't rational.


So just be happy for them. A person has met another person that they want to bet half of all the crap they own that they'll die still loving them.
 
It just seems like such a redundant thing to say. I mean, why does there need to be an agreement/disagreement when speaking about another persons love life? How is it relevant to anything?
 
I think Famine might be getting at something that I would like to hear more often: "I'm not sure what I think about .... (insert controversial topic here) but it's really none of my business".
 
I feel like I'm somehow losing my own point now. Like I'm not quite sure what I originaly meant. So perhaps it's best just to disregard what I wrote.

I just don't see how agreement/disagreement enters the equation.
 
It's maybe like saying "I don't like my friend taking drugs, but I'm happy that they're happy". It's dependent on the act in question being considered one of free choice though.
 
It seems that nobody in power in Russia is challenging these ideas... why is this?

Because it is still run by people who were raised by commies and lived in constant fear of being taken away in the middle of the night and never seen again. Things like this make it just as much an armpit, or A-hole of 'civilized' society.

And the rest of the world can only yell at them, and in the meanwhile giving them the Olympics and WC of football.
 
DK
I think that it's the Orthodox Church getting its tentacles into the state.
Sure thing. I think it's obvious since the story with Pussy Riot. There's even a law enacted recently, providing responsibility for blashphemy - up to 3 years of imprisonment.
I'm an Orthodox, too, but not a fanatic. And I'm against any involvement of any religion in the legislation - RF is supposed to be the secular state, isn't it?
 
Sure thing. I think it's obvious since the story with Pussy Riot. There's even a law enacted recently, providing responsibility for blashphemy - up to 3 years of imprisonment.
I'm an Orthodox, too, but not a fanatic. And I'm against any involvement of any religion in the legislation - RF is supposed to be the secular state, isn't it?

So is Ireland, but the Catholic Church still controls the vast majority of hospitals and schools. :(

You'd think that God shouldn't get butthurt over someone saying "Goddammit!"
 
Can someone tell me if this is real? I can't tell if it's some kind of sick joke or not.


If it is real, Americas's got some big issues I have to say. :scared:
 
Well, I don't know what to say, except that I feel sorry for the kids in New Hampshire. :indiff:

New Hampshire isn't really the state to worry about. Gay marriage has been legal there for a while, but there's always a few crazies.
 
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I hope bill 436 doesn't pass.

Sucks how Tony Abbot won the Australian election as he is against same sex marriage but Kevin Rudd is for it :(.
 
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