The Homosexuality Discussion Thread

[squadops]

I'm still waiting for yours LOL

Common now, you can't think of any case off the top of your head where a minority was abused for a so called betterment of the majority? Now you are just insulting me.

 

[TenEightyOne]

I'm still waiting for yours LOL

Common now, you can't think of any case off the top of your head where a minority was abused for a so called betterment of the majority? Now you are just insulting me.

Dude, I'm not here to do your research for you, that isn't how it works here. Show some cases relevant to this thread that back up your claim. That's how it works. Pleading insult isn't going to work, I'm a 'normal' user here and I have to observe the same AUP that you do.

 

[squadops]

Yet you ignore my request of one from you?

Fine then, it's not research at all. How does slavery suit you?

 

[TenEightyOne]

Yet you ignore my request of one from you?

Varying causes of addiction? Check. Theories on homosexual predispotion and potential causes thereof? Check. Follow the citations for a lot more

Fine then, it's not research at all. How does slavery suit you?

Sorry, what are you saying? And please give some links to show the established and massively well-known human rights abuses perpetrated by a homosexual minority. You claimed they were in obvious sight and took awful offence at being asked to produce them.

 

[Azuremen]

"Blimey O'Reilly", like "Really O'Reilly" is just an Irish saying, it often refers to a guard/police officer. Not sure where the offence might be in that.

Over here, when discussing politics, O'Reilly is usually a reference to Bill O'Reilly, who is just a bit of a right wing nut job. And also an idiot.

 

[squadops]

Oh ffs, this is a simple misunderstanding then

I was saying a few posts back that I didn't think the better of a whole was worth the sacrifice of a few, in other words I was saying to leave the homosexuals alone as discriminating against them does not actually help the whole.

Oh brother.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Understood! Here it's an immensely common surname

@squadops, ffs accepted I was gaining a different feel (so to speak) from your posts

 

[ledhed]

We have people who read post and are judging much about the person .
Then going on to ask for a citation on a claim.
.Can you give me a citation proving your statements on my beliefs and background?
So far your missing the mark and throwing darts .
I have no issues with human sexaulity as it is something that just is part of being human .
Others feel they must judge .
I question not only their right to judge but their motives.
But since you can read so much from post , share more of your insights. I have as ledhed a large body of post to read .
Have fun trying to figure me out , although I have to question what motivates the desire to label someone , especially on a forum where you are supposed to have open an honest debate and freedom to express opinion within the GTP TOS. And good manners .
I see a threas saying or asking if homosexuality is a problem , and I get angry its even a subject anymore in 2014 .
I saw an Admin ask to stay on topic . So I ignored the other post .
So maybe someone can explain this homosexual problem .

It seems to not be much of a topic in my sons generation nor my daughter who is eldest .
I endured my brothers suicide attempt after he came out to the family and my father disowned him. So I can say my dads generation had issues with it.
Cheerio .
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_caus.htm

counter point, but proves my claim it has law based on innate sexuality being science fact .

http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k78405&pageid=icb.page414413

I like this one .
http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/ViewPage.aspx?pageId=66


Stone age .

In the United States, these issues are somewhat less clear and thus our society has put sex and sexual orientation on the docket. Accordingly, the social urgency to answer questions regarding sexual orientation has pushed a greater interest in the “science” of it. Yet a narrow focus on the variability of sexual expression threatens to cloud the issue altogether. Without giving proper attention to the mutability of human sexual expression, questions regarding its origins and character cannot be answered.

 

[JulesJackson]

We have people who read post and are judging much about the person .
Then going on to ask for a citation on a claim.
.Can you give me a citation proving your statements on my beliefs and background?
So far your missing the mark and throwing darts .
I have no issues with human sexaulity as it is something that just is part of being human .
Others feel they must judge .
I question not only their right to judge but their motives.
But since you can read so much from post , share more of your insights. I have as ledhed a large body of post to read .
Have fun trying to figure me out , although I have to question what motivates the desire to label someone , especially on a forum where you are supposed to have open an honest debate and freedom to express opinion within the GTP TOS. And good manners .
I see a threas saying or asking if homosexuality is a problem , and I get angry its even a subject anymore in 2014 .
I saw an Admin ask to stay on topic . So I ignored the other post .
So maybe someone can explain this homosexual problem .

It seems to not be much of a topic in my sons generation nor my daughter who is eldest .
I endured my brothers suicide attempt after he came out to the family and my father disowned him. So I can say my dads generation had issues with it.
Cheerio .
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_caus.htm

counter point, but proves my claim it has law based on innate sexuality being science fact .

http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k78405&pageid=icb.page414413

George Michaels shall rectify your problems with homosexuality. On another note we have the same stance on homosexuality, however being that I'm a libertarian; it's not my decision to say what is wrong what people practice in their bedroom. It's a civil issue like religion should be separated from state hence, why I'm annoyed my the constant advertising of it in media. George Michael's Wham shall save us.

Varying causes of addiction? Check. Theories on homosexual predispotion and potential causes thereof? Check. Follow the citations for a lot more



Sorry, what are you saying? And please give some links to show the established and massively well-known human rights abuses perpetrated by a homosexual minority. You claimed they were in obvious sight and took awful offence at being asked to produce them.

Scientist have proven many times that homosexuality is a chemical imbalance (Well I shouldn't say that as the counter can be said about heterosexuals). Attraction is caused my hormones. Everything is tied to science.

 

[ledhed]

Why do we care who is boinking who and how ? Who are we . or worse a government we give power over our freedom and life and death to judge ?
All men are created equal is too often ignored and prejudices too often tolerated in the USA .
How can we stand for freedom and be so intolerant ?

Our soldiers leave blood and bodies all over the world in the name of freedom , even if its not entirely our leaders motives .
Its memorial day . We do them no justice by not living up to what they fought for aside from each other .

I am born in 1958 and have seen the change in the world and lived it . I think today the US is more diverse and accepting but not all the way there yet .

 

[LeMansAid]

Got no problem with it unless it's affecting me.

.....it's not my decision to say what is wrong what people practice in their bedroom.

Michael Sam is a perfect example of homosexuality going overboard, he literally smeared cake on his lovers face and well you know the rest.

When veneers are wafer thin..... Exhibits A and B.

 

[Azure Flare]

I have no words for that.

 

[Imari]

Scientist have proven many times that homosexuality is a chemical imbalance (Well I shouldn't say that as the counter can be said about heterosexuals). Attraction is caused my hormones. Everything is tied to science.

Really? I'd like to read more about this. Where can I start?

 

[JulesJackson]

When veneers are wafer thin..... Exhibits A and B.

The liberals really love filtering out the full citation. Michael Sam was a 7th round draft pick getting a 30min special on ESPN due to being gay. He wasn't covered based on-his talent. That is advertising of homosexuality on full scale. I reckon Jason Collins is a purple heart, or just another NBA scrub with mediocre stats that had to say he was gay in order to salvage his career. Those two hacks are taking advantage of the system, their talent couldn't save them. Can't argue that now can you good sir?

 

[ledhed]

As a heterosexual male I demand the right to see boobies on TV and in advertising just as Europe can .
The media used Mr. Sams kiss for a money shot and an " in your face " shocker that offended some or many , not what a movement will do when it is a minority and fighting for friends . So they risk going over the top and having a backlash .
States keep having voters show up to vote only for one reason -against gay marriage - so why scare away someone who is on the fence in prime time NFL draft ? Did they show oither first rounders kiss mom or GF ?
When someone says they do not care , "as long as you keep it to yourself ". That can't be respected ?
You can't just flip a switch and force a change in attitudes or long held belief . It takes effort and diplomacy not a baseball bat on prime time over grandpops head .

 

[JulesJackson]

Really? I'd like to read more about this. Where can I start?

Need some Science/Engineering majors on this thread, to educate the masses.

As a heterosexual male I demand the right to see boobies on TV and in advertising just as Europe can .
The media used Mr. Sams kiss for a money shot and an " in your face " shocker that offended some or many , not what a movement will do when it is a minority and fighting for friends . So they risk going over the top and having a backlash .
States keep having voters show up to vote only for one reason -against gay marriage - so why scare away someone who is on the fence in prime time NFL draft ? Did they show oither first rounders kiss mom or GF ?
When someone says they do not care , "as long as you keep it to yourself ". That can't be respected ?
You can't just flip a switch and force a change in attitudes or long held belief . It takes effort and diplomacy not a baseball bat on prime time over grandpops head .

+1 for Mammaries

 

[Imari]

Need some Science/Engineering majors on this thread, to educate the masses.

You seem to know a bit about this particular topic, so you'll do. Help the rest of us learn, or at least point me to where to start and I can take it from there. You must have heard about this research from somewhere.

 

[Azure Flare]

Need some Science/Engineering majors on this thread, to educate the masses.

While he may or may not have a major in either subjects, @Famine can easily do that job.

 

[JulesJackson]

Really? I'd like to read more about this. Where can I start?

I would like to see your citations on this issue as I've yet to see any proof on your side.

 

[JulesJackson]

While he may or may not have a major in either subjects, @Famine can easily do that job.

That's what we need an expert, if he's on lets ask him.

 

[LeMansAid]

The liberals really love filtering out the full citation. Michael Sam was a 7th round draft pick getting a 30min special on ESPN due to being gay. He wasn't covered based on-his talent. That is advertising of homosexuality on full scale. I reckon Jason Collins is a purple heart, or just another NBA scrub with mediocre stats that had to say he was gay in order to salvage his career. Those two hacks are taking advantage of the system, their talent couldn't save them. Can't argue that now can you good sir?

Nope. It's doing a story that they think will sell. They'll just as soon run one with scary music in the background and a re-enactment showing that the cake was actually used to choke the other guy.

 

[JulesJackson]

You seem to know a bit about this particular topic, so you'll do. Help the rest of us learn, or at least point me to where to start and I can take it from there. You must have heard about this research from somewhere.

I need some citations, good sir. Have yet to see any of your proof.

Nope. It's doing a story that they think will sell. They'll just as soon run one with scary music in the background and a re-enactment showing that the cake was actually used to choke the other guy.

It will sell due to him being gay and not on his talent. Defending a 7th round pick is quite laughable actually, thankfully he'll must likely be on special teams. Nice way avoiding the fact that he was covered due to being gay. I'm so bad even I make medicine sick.

 

[Azure Flare]

That's what we need an expert, if he's on lets ask him.

Google would be quicker.

 

[VindictiveScrub]

I hate how this thread has turned into nothing more than 5-year-olds crossing their arms and sarcastically pointing their fingers yelling, "YOU FIIIRRSST!"

Are we going to get back to discussing and debating this topic like adults, or are we all going to just start forcing everyone to give scientific documentation on every word they speak?

 

[JulesJackson]

Google would be quicker.

Azure what exactly is your major/background?
Mine: Electrical Engineering
I'm not qualified to really say much since I'm waiting for Famine?

 

[Imari]

I need some citations, good sir. Have yet to see any of your proof.

I would like to see your citations on this issue as I've yet to see any proof on your side.

What on earth are you talking about?

You claimed that scientists have proven many times that homosexuality is a chemical imbalance. Look:

Scientist have proven many times that homosexuality is a chemical imbalance (Well I shouldn't say that as the counter can be said about heterosexuals). Attraction is caused my hormones. Everything is tied to science.

I merely would like to see some information about that so that I can educate myself. Forgive me for not taking that short sentence at face value, but I'd like to know more. I understand that you're not the one that did the research, but surely you can point me in the direction of some news articles or research papers about this?


As for my citations, I haven't claimed anything, so what proof would I provide you?

Are we going to get back to discussing and debating this topic like adults, or are we all going to just start forcing everyone to give scientific documentation on every word they speak?

If people stopped posting pseudoscience, rumor and mythology as fact then maybe we could. If people are using falsehoods to discuss the topic, it does make it hard to have a reasonable discussion.

 

[ledhed]

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_caus.htm

counter point, but proves my claim it has law based on innate sexuality being science fact .

http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k78405&pageid=icb.page414413

I like this one .
http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/ViewPage.aspx?pageId=66

Pro-con but most important all have attributions to follow and read and use to form your own opinions on these opinions .
The liberals in office now in the US have used " science " to fight for the cause , while right and religion argue counter .
Good luck as the public has started to decide they do not care . And people who will not care will not vote on the issue as many a Republican has leaned or not learned yet .

 

[LeMansAid]

It will sell due to him being gay and not on his talent. Defending a 7th round pick is quite laughable actually, thankfully he'll must likely be on special teams. Nice way avoiding the fact that he was covered due to being gay. I'm so bad even I make medicine sick.

You're not keeping up. I have no doubt that it was because he was gay. Equally, it could have been because he was an Iranian refugee, the shortest player ever, the tallest player ever, did a perfect Elvis impersonation. The media does what they believe will sell. They don't discriminate, they use and abuse anyone and everyone as readily as the next.

If you're only noticing it with gay related stories you might need to get real about your attitude towards homosexuality.

 

[JulesJackson]

What on earth are you talking about?

You claimed that scientists have proven many times that homosexuality is a chemical imbalance. Look:



I merely would like to see some information about that so that I can educate myself. Forgive me for not taking that short sentence at face value, but I'd like to know more. I understand that you're not the one that did the research, but surely you can point me in the direction of some news articles or research papers about this?


As for my citations, I haven't claimed anything, so what proof would I provide you?

Repetition is a good habit for memorization except for answering citations.

 

[ledhed]

I have no doubt that it was because he was gay. Equally, it could have been because he was an Iranian refugee, the shortest player ever, the tallest player ever, did a perfect Elvis impersonation. The media does what they believe will sell. They don't discriminate, they use and abusive anyone and everyone as readily as the next.

Yes a money shot that did the poor guy no good with his team mates picked higher in the draft . but what did they care about ruining this guy ? Sold some time and got viewers talking for free .

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_caus.htm

counter point, but proves my claim it has law based on innate sexuality being science fact .

http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k78405&pageid=icb.page414413

I like this one .
http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/ViewPage.aspx?pageId=66

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