The Homosexuality Discussion Thread

[Mike458]

Bible pages, probably.

hang on a second, i know that would technically be like burning the bible, but at the same time, you're also getting high on jesus so it's all good

The worst part of it is that that isn't the only comic in the series (although no further comics were on homosexuality, but all of these gave me a good laugh to see how bad bigotry and brainwashing could be: http://www.truthforyouth.com/standard/main.htm ), but the biggest question that's been annoying me for so long is:

Why is this even an issue anymore?!?!

 

[Pseudopod]

If you're extremely unlucky, you'll know about the Chick religious comics.

 

[Mike458]

If you're extremely unlucky, you'll know about the Chick religious comics.

I don't want to know...

(Back on topic)

 

[TenEightyOne]

This kind of thing?*

*To be honest, I wasn't sure which were jokes and which were real...

 

[Mike458]

This kind of thing?*

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*To be honest, I wasn't sure which were jokes and which were real...

Err... Err...

I don't even.

 

[Pseudopod]

This kind of thing?*

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*To be honest, I wasn't sure which were jokes and which were real...

That's what's so scary about them.

 

[Valkyr1313]

Sorry if I am late to the party, but I was on the Internet and I found this: http://www.truthforyouth.com/NEW Comics/bw/index.htm

Kill me now.

Be right back, I'm going to get the eye bleach. I don't even know what to say...

 

[Daniel]

The worst part of it is that that isn't the only comic in the series (although no further comics were on homosexuality, but all of these gave me a good laugh to see how bad bigotry and brainwashing could be: http://www.truthforyouth.com/standard/main.htm ), but the biggest question that's been annoying me for so long is:

Why is this even an issue anymore?!?!

All of my wat.

 

[LeMansAid]

I write and throw a baseball with my right hand, but I swing a golf club, baseball bat, and play hockey lefty. What does that make me?

Hmmm, it tells us that you bat with the other hand, but not if you bat for the other team.....

 

[niky]

The worst part of it is that that isn't the only comic in the series (although no further comics were on homosexuality, but all of these gave me a good laugh to see how bad bigotry and brainwashing could be: http://www.truthforyouth.com/standard/main.htm ), but the biggest question that's been annoying me for so long is:

Why is this even an issue anymore?!?!

That comic on homosexuality... the irony is thick, right there at the very end.

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Also... bloody protest riots between gay and anti-gay factions? Really? Couldn't they have come up with something a bit more believable?

EDIT: Have the writers ever talked to other human beings... like... ever? The dialogue reads like it was written by a ten-year old homeschooled recluse.

 

[squadops]

Also... bloody protest riots between gay and anti-gay factions? Really? Couldn't they have come up with something a bit more believable?

It happens.

 

[niky]

It happens.

Well... that's Georgia... as in "Right beside homophobia central Mother Russia, Georgia", not "American Georgia."

Here's the thing. They're making it out like militant gays openly and physically attack their critics at marches. Interesting tactic. Make them out to be just as bad as the other side, while stating you're not against them... and in the end, twisting it around, saying that the biological/developmental argument for homosexuality is merely "PR".

It would be funny if it weren't so sad and so completely bollocks.

 

[afbarnes]

Sorry if I am late to the party, but I was on the Internet and I found this: http://www.truthforyouth.com/NEW Comics/bw/index.htm

Kill me now.

That was actually so difficult to read, not only was it stupid but it was also so poorly written...

 

[TenEightyOne]

And Tango Makes Three is third in the list of most-complained-about books on US library shelves, at least according to the American Literature Association.

Link

 

[Mike458]

And Tango Makes Three is third in the list of most-complained-about books on US library shelves, at least according to the American Literature Association.

Link

I don't know why that is, and why people are so riled up about same-sex couples actually existing...

 

[FoolKiller]

Is anyone surprised? Every generation has certain books that fall victim of their current cultural war. I remember being a kid and having to get a parent's signature to read Huckleberry Finn, or again as a high school senior (grade 12) reading A Handmaiden's Tale.

A book for children that brings up the topic of the current cultural debate is going to get complaints. That's just how it is.

 

[TenEightyOne]

"We all choose our poisons... whether it's hatred or homosexuality..."

If you read that in the movie-announcer voice it's epic. Ish.

 

[squadops]

I don't know why that is, and why people are so riled up about same-sex couples actually existing...

The total number of people so riled up as to write a compliant, and the top 10 list for 2014(300 people dislike one of more then ten books, wow).

The ALA counted 311 challenges in 2014, roughly the same as were lodged in 2013.

The top ten most frequently challenged books of 2014 include:

1) The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian, by Sherman Alexie

Reasons: anti-family, cultural insensitivity, drugs/alcohol/smoking, gambling, offensive language, sex education, sexually explicit, unsuited for age group, violence. Additional reasons: “depictions of bullying”

2) Persepolis, by Marjane Satrapi

Reasons: gambling, offensive language, political viewpoint. Additional reasons: “politically, racially, and socially offensive,” “graphic depictions”

3) And Tango Makes Three, Justin Richardson and Peter Parnell

Reasons: Anti-family, homosexuality, political viewpoint, religious viewpoint, unsuited for age group. Additional reasons: “promotes the homosexual agenda”

4) The Bluest Eye, by Toni Morrison

Reasons: Sexually explicit, unsuited for age group. Additional reasons: “contains controversial issues”

5) It’s Perfectly Normal, by Robie Harris

Reasons: Nudity, sex education, sexually explicit, unsuited to age group. Additional reasons: “alleges it child pornography”

6) Saga, by Brian Vaughan and Fiona Staples

Reasons: Anti-Family, nudity, offensive language, sexually explicit, and unsuited for age group. Additional reasons:

7) The Kite Runner, by Khaled Hosseini

Reasons: Offensive language, unsuited to age group, violence

8) The Perks of Being a Wallflower, by Stephen Chbosky

Reasons: drugs/alcohol/smoking, homosexuality, offensive language, sexually explicit, unsuited for age group. Additional reasons: “date rape and masturbation”

9) A Stolen Life, Jaycee Dugard

Reasons: drugs/alcohol/smoking, offensive language, sexually explicit, and unsuited for age group

10) Drama, by Raina Telgemeier

Reasons: sexually explicit

 

[Danny]

A church has allegedly blamed Pokemon for encouraging homosexuality.

Teenagers from the late 80s and early 90s have had their sexuality warped by Ash and his fruity friends, claims a study by the Creflo Dollar Ministry.

Of course.

From the same church that was raising funds for a Pastor to have a private jet.

 

[Crash]

And Tango Makes Three is third in the list of most-complained-about books on US library shelves, at least according to the American Literature Association.

Link

I wonder if one is allowed to file a complaint about the Holy Books (take your pick)? They include numerous themes that are often echoed in the reasons for challenging books.

Imagine the outrage that would cause on what I imagine to be most of the people that file complaints about this kind of stuff.

 

[Mike458]

I wonder if one is allowed to file a complaint about the Holy Books (take your pick)? They include numerous themes that are often echoed in the reasons for challenging books.

Imagine the outrage that would cause on what I imagine to be most of the people that file complaints about this kind of stuff.

Who knows? World War III? Angry republicans?

"It's the end of the world as we know it (for conservatives)!"

 

[niky]

I wonder if one is allowed to file a complaint about the Holy Books (take your pick)? They include numerous themes that are often echoed in the reasons for challenging books.

Imagine the outrage that would cause on what I imagine to be most of the people that file complaints about this kind of stuff.

How long would that entry be, I wonder?

... -for misogyny, racism, incest, parricide, fratricide, genocide, depictions of slavery, sex slavery, nudity, prostitution, sexually explicit scenes, graphically gruesome death, torture, dismemberment, gore and possible experimentation with hallucinogenic chemicals. Also, anti-family ("I have come to turn ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household." Matt. 10:34-36)

"We all choose our poisons... whether it's hatred or homosexuality..."

If you read that in the movie-announcer voice it's epic. Ish.

Sadly, I fear the irony would be completely lost on the audience.

I have hope. I mean, it took less than two thousand years for women to gain voter's rights.

 

[squadops]

The bible itself has been protested in public schools a few times in the U.S., never causing a big stink. Prayer is another story however, and the topic of creation.

Most of the time it's 'about the kids', some parents will spend more time and effort fighting an institution than they will with their own kids they claim to protect.

 

[TenEightyOne]

I wonder if one is allowed to file a complaint about the Holy Books (take your pick)? They include numerous themes that are often echoed in the reasons for challenging books.

Imagine the outrage that would cause on what I imagine to be most of the people that file complaints about this kind of stuff.

Can't see it on the Top-100 lists (in this link)... but "The Joy of Gay Sex" is there

 

[wvmgmidget]

People may or may not agree with this but, it's my honest opinion. I don't hate or dislike people who are gay; there plenty of great people out there who happen to be gay (including some on this site). I don't think people who are gay will be damned to hell or anything because they're gay. However I personally still believe marriage should still only be between a man and woman.

 

[Spurgy 777]

People may or may not agree with this but, it's my honest opinion. I don't hate or dislike people who are gay; there plenty of great people out there who happen to be gay (including some on this site). I don't think people who are gay will be damned to hell or anything because they're gay. However I personally still believe marriage should still only be between a man and woman.

Why?

 

[Famine]

People may or may not agree with this but, it's my honest opinion. I don't hate or dislike people who are gay; there plenty of great people out there who happen to be gay (including some on this site). I don't think people who are gay will be damned to hell or anything because they're gay. However I personally still believe marriage should still only be between a man and woman.

For what reason?

What is marriage if not a contract of fidelity between consenting adults? Why should gay people be prohibited from making such a contract?

 

[wvmgmidget]

Because of the religious ties to marriage. Most religions disapprove gay marriage and the state forcing the issue is an infringement upon their (the religion it's self) religious freedom. However, if the issue of taxation and other things are such a big issue then a legally recognized domestic partnership I feel would be reasonable. It's just my personal opinion.

 

[Famine]

Because of the religious ties to marriage.

But these are latterly created. Are you happy for a large and extremely wealthy body to take over a practice then exclude you from it under their rules?

Are you against straight marriages that are not religious?

Most religions disapprove gay marriage and the state forcing the issue is an infringement upon their (the religion it's self) religious freedom.

If the state is forcing a religion to conduct all marriages and only recognising marriages under one religion yes. Otherwise no it isn't. Religions do not have to marry anyone they do not want to marry - nor are people who want to marry under different religions or none at all required to have a marriage under a different religion.


Incidentally, I'm not aware of a single religion that has a prohibition in their holy book for marrying two (or more) people of the same gender or gender identity. If they still don't want to do it, that's up to them - but that doesn't mean they get to control all marriage.

 

[Mike458]

Because of the religious ties to marriage. Most religions disapprove gay marriage and the state forcing the issue is an infringement upon their (the religion it's self) religious freedom. However, if the issue of taxation and other things are such a big issue then a legally recognized domestic partnership I feel would be reasonable. It's just my personal opinion.

But the bigger reason is that gay marriage does not affect anyone but the people involved in it. Why stop people from doing what their heart desires (within reason)?