The Homosexuality Discussion Thread

[arora]

80% of people that are really homophobic are quite religious as well.

Source please.

 

[Famine]

No you haven't. You have (on multiple occasions), changed meanings of words. Changed sentence structures, or took them out of context. (You = plural here). I can say what I want, but apparently when people can't make fun of my posts they will just change the meaning of them.

My lack of clarity? Don't be so fast to make assumptions, and if you're not sure what something means, don't react.

See, the problem is that you're addressing multiple native English speakers, some of whom are paid to read and write English for a living, in English and then telling them that they're wrong when they read, quote and respond to your exact words.

They aren't.

Simple. I'm a homosexual, I was born this way. I have not chosen for it, nor does it make me any kind of different. BUT there are people who think so, and single me out for that reason. They don't respect me for an idea that's not even theirs.

So you're allowed to be abusive to people for things they weren't born into?

Wow.

Well, considering people do have to make fun of people, that's when a polite discussion ends.

None have insulted me? Like I said before, to me, sarcasm towards some opinions are worse than insults.

Mm-hmm. Was that before or after your second post that contained an insult and a false statement?

The only person that's been abusive to others is you. Others have deconstructed your arguments and used the rebuttals to chip at your posted opinion. That's not abusiveness, no matter how much you want to believe it is. That's discussion.

You haven't been made fun of. In fact your opinions make you pretty scary and dangerous.

So, you're comparing me to a fascist?

I have done several times so far. You seek to control speech and thought through law. That's fascism.

Because I won't make those mistakes?

You are making that exact same mistake - trying to restrict freedom! That's how it always - always - starts. That is, literally, the same mistake.

Because when a person displays an emotion, you know that person cares about that fact. If I insulted you for 'baldy', and you weren't bald... What wold be the point? Insults are useless when a person doesn't care about them. And it's just a one-time thing.

Careful - male pattern baldness is genetic. They were born that way.

I assume that gaoled must be 'jailed'? If not, say so.

No, it's "gaoled".

Anyway, there are other ways to reach correcting behaviour, and you can't correct being gay with electroshock therapy. I know that, and I never said I would apply such measures. Again, placing words in my mouth there are not there.

I was pointing out that you said that people who are homophobic must have their behaviour corrected, by whatever means - and that in the 1930s they thought castrating homosexuals corrected homosexuality, and in the 1960s they thought ECT corrected it. Not that you were advocating ECT.

What's offensive to me, yes. But it's not me that should have put the line there. It's your education and raising that should have.

You put your line where you choose to. Others put their line where they choose to. You don't put the line for them, they don't do it for you.

A lot can be offensive, yes. Not everything. And yes, I've been offensive in this thread. Like I told you about 10 pages ago, give me an infraction for it or stop bringing it up -.-

You don't get to make that decision.

Never knew my father, my mother passed away as well, so I basically know how you feel.

No, you don't.

And if you found it offensive that I brought them up, I apologise for that

What possible reason could I have for being interested in an apology from someone who neither likes nor respects me?

The exact same amount of interest I'd have in an insult from them. None at all.

This is a lesson you apparently need to learn.

That was in another time, another way of thinking. Can't compare now, to the Germany from 1930-1945.

So long as there's people trying to limit freedom in the name of offence, you can compare directly. Arrogance - thinking today's Germany is any better than the one that pioneered space travel and medical research - mixed with ignorance of history condemns folk to make the same mistakes time after time.

And since today's Germany already makes certain thoughts and speech a criminal and indictable offence, there's good reason to draw the comparison.

 

[FoolKiller]

Well, it IS an exaggeration considering IF you really wanted to make a difference, you must go public. When you do that, you're not solely getting imprisoned or shot. That's impossible.

No, it isn't.

Amish men jailed for not displaying buggy safety signs
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE78C7K620110913

Eight men served jail time for refusing to follow a minor traffic law on religious grounds and then refusing to pay the fines on religious grounds. Then they went to jail. I wonder what would have happened if they weren't pacifists.

Of course we do, but not on the same scale.

How about we avoid the non-homosexual equality cultural issues? That will only lead to opinionated judgments and someone saying something offensive about an entire culture. I think we can both agree that both our societies need to improve on the equality front, even if we disagree on how we should get there.

I don't know what I'm talking about? We compared social welfare/security systems all around the globe for an essay. I know pretty much what I'm talking of.

And because I have German heritage (great grandparents were German), like German beer, German food, and German cars, as well as speak German I have studied the culture a lot. That doesn't make me an expert. It does allow me to read the menu at a German restaurant and order with proper pronunciation.

But you claimed President Obama created our social security system. That already puts what you think you know in doubt, since he wasn't even born when our system was created.

First statement is wrong, second statement is 100% made up. Seriously, I never said such a thing.

Congratulations. You got me to pull out the WABAC machine.


First statement refers to this:

If my voice got heard Romney would've been imprisoned for his ridiculously stupid comments and accusations

So people are supposed to not get confused into thinking you supported putting people in jail because they misinterpreted that how? Keep in mind, the point is not that I am saying you now want that, but that your statements led people to believe something and you are are saying it is their fault for being confused.

The second statement refers to the guy imprisoned for a Facebook post. I call him a dumb kid, because that is clearly what he is. And you thinking he should be jailed is not made up. You defend that stance in this very post.

How about wanting to put the homosexuals in the closets again?

Huh? Please explain.

Keeping marriages, financial benefits and that sort of things away from homosexuals?

He was running for president and marriage laws are decided by the states. He wouldn't have had power to do anything like this.

To me, that's worse than a single attack on one person.

Yet, instead of leading by example you wish to sink to their level and would like it if people who act mostly out of ignorance were treated the same. It's a political debate and still a controversial topic. He represented one side of the debate.

Although some of your statements make me wonder if you haven't confused he and Santorum.

I don't but I saw enough election videos with the words coming out of Romney's mouth.

See, here is the kicker about Romney; he's a flip flopper. He has held every position on every issue at some point in his political career. For every video you have of him saying he supports not providing equal rights to homosexuals I can find one of him saying the opposite.

Yes, It's definitely worth it. When someone jokes about dead relatives, that's simply not done.

This is the dumb kid acting like a dumb kid I referred to earlier.

Like I said before, by your rationale if if you support jail time for showing a lack of decency. you would support it if half of the Internet were put in jail.

 

[Gonales]

See, the problem is that you're addressing multiple native English speakers, some of whom are paid to read and write English for a living, in English and then telling them that they're wrong when they read, quote and respond to your exact words.
They aren't.

Maybe it's because you have that kind of 'better' handle on the language that you're seeing things that aren't there?

So you're allowed to be abusive to people for things they weren't born into?
Wow.

Yes ofcourse. They have the choice and act like asses on purpose. I don't have a choice.

Mm-hmm. Was that before or after your second post that contained an insult and a false statement?

1: What insult? The fact that average intelligent people use FoS to get away with insulting others as allowed? It happens.

The only person that's been abusive to others is you. Others have deconstructed your arguments and used the rebuttals to chip at your posted opinion. That's not abusiveness, no matter how much you want to believe it is. That's discussion.
You haven't been made fun of. In fact your opinions make you pretty scary and dangerous.

My first post got (totally inappropriately) ridiculed. So yeah, sorry for not believing that. I know what I feel.

I have done several times so far. You seek to control speech and thought through law. That's fascism.

Maybe, but not all people who have fascist tendencies ARE fascists.

You are making that exact same mistake - trying to restrict freedom! That's how it always - always - starts. That is, literally, the same mistake.

Oh yeah, and you know that why? You were there?

Careful - male pattern baldness is genetic. They were born that way.

Not all of them.

No, it's "gaoled".

Explain to me what this means than, since the dictionary doesnt.

I was pointing out that you said that people who are homophobic must have their behaviour corrected, by whatever means - and that in the 1930s they thought castrating homosexuals corrected homosexuality, and in the 1960s they thought ECT corrected it. Not that you were advocating ECT.

What's the point? That we don't know how? I didn't claim to know. I just said there needed to be changes.

Towards this person for example:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=581162971909218&set=a.116898608335659.16274.108038612554992&type=1&theater

(Hope that page opens)

You put your line where you choose to. Others put their line where they choose to. You don't put the line for them, they don't do it for you.

Which should actually not be necessary, for me to put them anywhere. But considering I don't want people like above to **** up my life with their insane and unnecessary comments, things need to change.

You don't get to make that decision.

And you want us to believe that this behaviour is not childish?

No, you don't.

Oh, so I don't know how you feel but you all perfectly know how I feel? Seriously... And you call me a hypocrite?

What possible reason could I have for being interested in an apology from someone who neither likes nor respects me?
The exact same amount of interest I'd have in an insult from them. None at all.
This is a lesson you apparently need to learn.

It apparently doesn't dawn on you, that how much I might disrespect you, and how much you might dislike me... I still know when things are out of line. And I show the maturity to apologise. The fact that you don't accept them just shows lack of personality/maturity on your side.

So long as there's people trying to limit freedom in the name of offence, you can compare directly. Arrogance - thinking today's Germany is any better than the one that pioneered space travel and medical research - mixed with ignorance of history condemns folk to make the same mistakes time after time.
And since today's Germany already makes certain thoughts and speech a criminal and indictable offence, there's good reason to draw the comparison.

Your opinion. How well do you know Germany by the way? How much do you think the Germany of today has in common with the Germany of, let's say 1930?

 

[Danny]

Explain to me what this means than, since the dictionary doesnt.

Gaol is just the middle english spelling of jail.

I think Famine is just being facetious.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Have fun waiting I deliberately wrote you guys wouldn't agree with me on limiting FoS... Which means I knew there would be reactions like yours. What is the point of even replying to you if I already know what you're gonna say anyway?

Some sort of justification for your ridiculously hypocritical stance on censorship and oppression sure would help, instead of a simple "because I say so". You know who else tends to use that line as justification? Children.

Maybe it's because you have that kind of 'better' handle on the language that you're seeing things that aren't there?

So you're suggesting those who've made it their business to know the ins and outs of English are making things up that aren't existing in your posts? Actually, that numerous people are misinterpreting it?

Like Famine said, we can only know what you type. If you want to be more clear on your responses, be more clear. Or if you're going to continue to insist people are misinterpreting, provide what you believe is your original intended message. When someone repeatedly cries "you don't understand", but fails to provide any alternatives, I can't help but think they themselves don't even know what they're trying to say.

Yes ofcourse. They have the choice and act like asses on purpose. I don't have a choice.

You don't have a choice but to be abusive at that point?

Again, you have the nerve to ever compare yourself to MLK Jr. with that sort of attitude?

1: What insult? The fact that average intelligent people use FoS to get away with insulting others as allowed? It happens.

So what's your excuse for insulting others?

My first post got (totally inappropriately) ridiculed. So yeah, sorry for not believing that. I know what I feel.

Then perhaps express what you feel better, if we're apparently misinterpreting it - yet you even admit to repeating yourself, so it's not clear if you are or aren't trying to clarify, by now.

Maybe, but not all people who have fascist tendencies ARE fascists.

Not all people who have homophobic tendencies ARE homophobes. Right?

Oh yeah, and you know that why? You were there?

If you want to continue sticking your fingers in your ears and avoiding the past, that's your own choice.

Not all of them.

No? Do you know which? Do you therefore know who would and wouldn't find it offensive?

What's the point? That we don't know how? I didn't claim to know. I just said there needed to be changes.

Towards this person for example:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=581162971909218&set=a.116898608335659.16274.108038612554992&type=1&theater

(Hope that page opens)

The point is there have been awful, abusive "corrective" approaches to what society deemed "wrong" in the past. While you haven't suggested a method to "fix" what you deem offensive, you are asserting that there needs to be such a fix, and that's a slippery slope to be taking, especially if you can't provide any such method.

Which should actually not be necessary, for me to put them anywhere. But considering I don't want people like above to **** up my life with their insane and unnecessary comments, things need to change.

It isn't necessary; you only deem it to be. How is the extreme view of a radio host in Ohio messing up your life? Heck, look at the response on Facebook; as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, those sort of views end up naturally marginalized by a population that by and large, doesn't support them.

I'm in no way saying what she said is anything I agree with, but I accept her right to state her beliefs, as ill-informed as they may be.

Oh, so I don't know how you feel but you all perfectly know how I feel? Seriously... And you call me a hypocrite?

Nobody will argue your emotions; they are yours and only yours. We're discussing your views on certain social ideas.

 

[Famine]

Maybe it's because you have that kind of 'better' handle on the language that you're seeing things that aren't there?

For the nth time, NO. We can only read what is there.

Yes ofcourse. They have the choice and act like asses on purpose. I don't have a choice.

You have the choice not to act like an ass too...

My first post got (totally inappropriately) ridiculed. So yeah, sorry for not believing that. I know what I feel.

Yet you were not made fun of. You can't separate the speaker from the opinion, for some reason.

Maybe, but not all people who have fascist tendencies ARE fascists.

So... what are people who support fascism if not fascist? You already called GTPlanet homophobic for supporting homophobia (in your head)...

Oh yeah, and you know that why? You were there?

Not all of them.

But you can never be too sure whether than baldness is genetic or not. Oh, the dichotomy in the world of being-allowed-to-insult-people-not-born-that-way.

Incidentally, there's strong evidence that obesity has a genetic basis too. Let's head back to the fat jokes...

Explain to me what this means than, since the dictionary doesnt.

It means "to be placed into gaol".

Gaol is just the middle english spelling of jail.

I think Famine is just being facetious.

Nope. It's the English word. The American spelling is jail and I have just about always used the English on this site.

What's the point? That we don't know how?

That calling for behaviours to be corrected is a very dangerous path.

I didn't claim to know. I just said there needed to be changes.

Towards this person for example:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=581162971909218&set=a.116898608335659.16274.108038612554992&type=1&theater

(Hope that page opens)

Now look at the responses.

Nothing needs to be done about her - she's done it herself by assuming the freedom to say what she wants means she will continue to have the platform to speak.

Which should actually not be necessary, for me to put them anywhere. But considering I don't want people like above to **** up my life with their insane and unnecessary comments, things need to change.

And how is she affecting your life in any way at all?

And you want us to believe that this behaviour is not childish?

No, I don't really care what people believe. Fact is you offered an ultimatum to me and that's not your call.

Oh, so I don't know how you feel but you all perfectly know how I feel? Seriously... And you call me a hypocrite?

Yes. I'd hoped you'd spot that because you suddenly decided you knew how I feel on some random basis after a month of telling people we have no idea how you feel (and us telling you we didn't care because it was irrelevant).

So yes, I call you a hypocrite.

It apparently doesn't dawn on you, that how much I might disrespect you, and how much you might dislike me... I still know when things are out of line. And I show the maturity to apologise. The fact that you don't accept them just shows lack of personality/maturity on your side.

You seem to have missed the point somewhat. You're raging left, right and centre about things people who don't matter say. Why? They don't matter. It doesn't matter whether it's insulting, apologising, praise - these people do not matter.

We've been telling you for a month that you should ignore these folk and move on. You're still dishing out the insults to us for it.

Your opinion. How well do you know Germany by the way? How much do you think the Germany of today has in common with the Germany of, let's say 1930?

Financial crisis, run by socialists, freedom of speech and thought is curtailed for certain groups, right wing parties on the rise...

No. Nothing at all.

 

[Crash]

Homosexuality is not a choice. I think every homosexual will tell you that as well tbh.

Vast majority of (not every) homosexuals will agree, yes. Heck, probably many heterosexuals will agree. However, since science hasn't proven that it's not a choice, there are people who still genuinely believe that it's a choice.

This then, by your logic, leads to the slippery slope where they can insult homosexuals since it's only not ok to insult things that one is born into.

Yeah, it's offensive to the men that are in control at this moment. But do you really think women should be suppressed?

Whether I think women should be oppressed or not doesn't matter, nor is it relevant. I'm simply pointing out that there are people who disagree and find offense with your opinion, and if speech or words can be banned simply because it's offensive, then your opinion would have been banned as well.

A lot can be offensive, yes. Not everything. And yes, I've been offensive in this thread. Like I told you about 10 pages ago, give me an infraction for it or stop bringing it up -.-

No, the point is that you're being deliberately offensive while you are asking people to not be offensive. The point of discussion then becomes, why do you get to be offensive when others don't?

As homeforsummer said: "do unto others as you wish to be done unto you."

1: What insult? The fact that average intelligent people use FoS to get away with insulting others as allowed? It happens.

Why do you keep saying "average intelligent?" Are you saying anyone who defends freedom of speech to be only of average intelligence?

Which should actually not be necessary, for me to put them anywhere. But considering I don't want people like above to **** up my life with their insane and unnecessary comments, things need to change.

That person has absolutely minimal, if not zero, impact on your life.

It's a two-way street, honey. Have you thought about the fact that because their religion does not recognize the validity of homosexuality, your homosexuality is an affront to their religious conscious? You don't want them 🤬 up your life, but they don't want you 🤬 up theirs either by having to tolerate what they find offensive and is against their conscious.

Just as they have no right to tell you how to live your life, you have no right to tell them they can't believe what they believe. Same with words and speech.

Some sort of justification for your ridiculously hypocritical stance on censorship and oppression sure would help, instead of a simple "because I say so". You know who else tends to use that line as justification? Children.

And dictators.

The ultimate end should have been here the 21st.

 

[Villain]

"Born to be gay", then?

It may not be something that really comes into play until around puberty, but I'm fairly convinced that it's a genetic thing. Outside influence will decide how someone acts on an attraction one way or the other, or even whether a person ever discovers that attraction. I mean, I only really realized I was gay a little under 6 months ago. About 2 weeks after I ended up falling in love with another guy, and only then did I even bother to explore any kind of physical attraction to guys. Started exploring the feelings and kind of...discovered that I have an attraction to men. Just never really bothered to think about it because I'm also attracted to girls and just kinda figured that was good enough. It's just that I was never really exposed to anything that might have indicated to me that I was gay. And the few times I was I just thought to myself "I like women too much to like men" and just ignored it; again, up until about 6 months ago when I had a reason to consider it.

Which kind of explained my strange fascination with any movie staring Daniel Craig before I'd even given it serious thought.

I'm pretty sure you've been typing in crazy colors and have been into bronies longer than six months.


Just saying.

I'm also just kidding. Seriously, thanks for sharing.




On your point, it makes sense that you wouldn't realize your sexuality until puberty. That's when the hormones start really coming and also the same time that heterosexuals start noticing the other sex as well. 👍

 

[nobuffalo]

On your point, it makes sense that you wouldn't realize your sexuality until puberty. That's when the hormones start really coming and also the same time that heterosexuals start noticing the other sex as well. 👍

Speak for yourself...

 

[Tornado]

I'm pretty sure you've been typing in crazy colors and have been into bronies longer than six months.

Funny you should say that...



The "another guy" was me. We're currently investigating to see if the above was related.

 

[Lock2Lock]

I was told about this thread by a friend I just would to like to share my honest opinion.

I would first off like to clarify that I am straight.

Also I don't think there is any problem for someone to be with someone of the same sex. Basically whatever makes you happy. I have no right to judge someone for what they do in their personal life. Neither do I think anyone should.

I have a few friends that are lesbians. And in my book the word lesbian applies to both men that date men and women that date women. I think the word gay is a over used word that has multiple meanings (happy/homosexual/something that is stupid as in a figure of speech). I hate when people get mad at others that use the word gay and that are lesbian. I don't get it. Let the other person miss out.

No offense to Christians... But i hate the talk about ban lesbian marriage because of blah blah blah. I personally think anyone that wants to get married to the same sex should have the right to do so. But another thing I must add with that said is. If you want to marry someone of the same sex at least understand that yes in the Bible it does say "it is a sin" so have the decency to not get married in a church. I think getting married to the same sex in a church is hypocritical no excuse it is. Same thing in my eyes if you are a atheist and get married in a church which is extremely hypocritical.

I also don't like that in the Bible it says not to judge and these Christian leaders and followers are saying "you are horrible person/you are going to hell/your lifestyle is wrong" Ummmmmm that is clearly judging. Don't even bull crap me and tell me that isn't.

I really do not agree with the stupid saying "marriage is sactrect and should only be shared with a man in a women". I love how someone that's Christian tells me that and that has had a divorce when what did you agree to in your vowls. Did you forget? "we are gathered here today under God/friends and family and do you swear to honor and love each other though sickness and in hell, together as long as you both shall live?" then you say "i do". Then get a divorce. Hummmm sounds like a promise broken between your spouse and God to me.

Then that chick-fil-a thing. I actually had seen some people that beat someone that was homosexual to death because they wouldn't change to their Christian lifestyle. Sorry no just no. That isn't what God intended. It has been twisted to look that way.

I am neither a atheist or religious i just want to make that very clear. May sound hypocritical but i believe in seeing is believing so i am not doubting there is a God but at the same time I don't follow it closely because of my personal believes that i think are viewed in a hypocritical way.

There needs to be a medium level of understanding which there doesn't seem to be in this day and age. It is just filled with ignorance. And it is truly sad.

Like i said i am just voicing my opinion. I hope you guys and girls can understand what I mean in what I have said.

 

[DriftEmotion FC]

It's not a problem to me untill you push that on me, im straight and i don't like it when you come on to me just because i talk to you.
Im more cool with the men that act like Elton john not the men that go to restaurants and say so loud and have to be so defensive about being gay and just be stupid about it just act like a cool guy yet let it be known that you like men don't shake your *** and go up to random dudes and scream im gay i want to date you, i don't see a resin to act that absurd, but like i said im cool with you just don't embarrass me when we chill and talk about sex and other things when you know i like girls, so i say let them be happy just don't involve me in it

 

[Joel]

But it should be totally cool for you to hit on girls in a bar right? You also just declared "I like girls" in the very post that decryed homosexuals for identifying as such.

 

[Daniel]

I bet you'll think it's okay if you end up coming onto woman who turns out to be gay. Would you back off then?
If not, welcome to Hypocrisy-land.

 

[DriftEmotion FC]

But it should be totally cool for you to hit on girls in a bar right? You also just declared "I like girls" in the very post that decryed homosexuals for identifying as such.

Im 16 and if i did i would never "hit" on a women i would politely ask them to have some coffee our go out to eat one day, Also i don't like to drink so there for i would not be in a bar i cant help the dumb asses who want to ask them just for sex and vice verse for the homosexual, all i can do is ask and that's what i did
I don't think anyone should be disrespectful but like i said i can't tell them what to do neither can you. I'll just say you respect me I'll respect you, simply as that

also yes i would respect that she is and say have a nice day/night. Don't jump the gun people

 

[Daniel]

It's not a problem to me untill you push that on me, im straight and i don't like it when you come on to me just because i talk to you.
Im more cool with the men that act like Elton john not the men that go to restaurants and say so loud and have to be so defensive about being gay and just be stupid about it just act like a cool guy yet let it be known that you like men don't shake your *** and go up to random dudes and scream im gay i want to date you, i don't see a resin to act that absurd, but like i said im cool with you just don't embarrass me when we chill and talk about sex and other things when you know i like girls, so i say let them be happy just don't involve me in it

If I were being complimented/hit on, I'd be happy that I was being admired, no matter the gender. Just say "thanks" - all you need to do. If they start to come on, then politely refuse. Unless they were drunk or desperate, they'd do the same thing as you would: "Have a nice night," and be on your merry way.

 

[homeforsummer]

And in my book the word lesbian applies to both men that date men and women that date women.

That's a very odd word to use for gay people of both sexes.

I actually know a few gay women who hate the word "lesbian" because the first image it conjures up in peoples' minds is "porn lesbians", and many want to be distanced from that. In fact, some I know are more than happy to use slang terms like "dyke" in reference to themselves, in a similar vein to other "reclaimed" words that used to be used as derogatory terms.

It's not a problem to me untill you push that on me, im straight and i don't like it when you come on to me just because i talk to you.
Im more cool with the men that act like Elton john not the men that go to restaurants and say so loud and have to be so defensive about being gay and just be stupid about it just act like a cool guy yet let it be known that you like men don't shake your *** and go up to random dudes and scream im gay i want to date you, i don't see a resin to act that absurd, but like i said im cool with you just don't embarrass me when we chill and talk about sex and other things when you know i like girls, so i say let them be happy just don't involve me in it

What on earth kind of people do you think gay men are like?

The scenario you're describing sounds completely off-base to me. You'd have to be massively full of yourself (even if you were gay yourself) to think that other gay men are automatically going to hit on you in a restaurant by "screaming 'I'm gay'", for no other reason than because you're a male and they like men.

It does make me wonder exactly what sort of restaurants you're going to though. I managed to eat in a restaurant in the middle of West Hollywood with rainbow flags flying outside a few years ago, and somehow managed to avoid indulging in consensual homosexual intercourse when I went to the bathroom. I'm quite sure someone with your perception of gay people is fairly safe in a regular restaurant.

Edit: Oh, you're banned. Never mind.

 

[niky]

Actually, I've only once ever had a gay man hit on me seriously. Not comfortable.

But it's a lot rarer than having loud, obnoxious heterosexual men hitting on women. Kind of an eye-opener on how they feel when they're around us.

Most of my gay friends are really chill. No different, really, than most straight people.

 

[Danny]

It's not a problem to me untill you push that on me, im straight and i don't like it when you come on to me just because i talk to you.
Im more cool with the men that act like Elton john not the men that go to restaurants and say so loud and have to be so defensive about being gay and just be stupid about it just act like a cool guy yet let it be known that you like men don't shake your *** and go up to random dudes and scream im gay i want to date you, i don't see a resin to act that absurd, but like i said im cool with you just don't embarrass me when we chill and talk about sex and other things when you know i like girls, so i say let them be happy just don't involve me in it

You have nothing to worry about.

Seriously, I'd sooner hit on a bag of rusty nails.

 

[Gonales]

If I were being complimented/hit on, I'd be happy that I was being admired, no matter the gender. Just say "thanks" - all you need to do. If they start to come on, then politely refuse. Unless they were drunk or desperate, they'd do the same thing as you would: "Have a nice night," and be on your merry way.

This is a great attitude towards being hit on, please do keep it that way

That's a very odd word to use for gay people of both sexes.

I actually know a few gay women who hate the word "lesbian" because the first image it conjures up in peoples' minds is "porn lesbians", and many want to be distanced from that. In fact, some I know are more than happy to use slang terms like "dyke" in reference to themselves, in a similar vein to other "reclaimed" words that used to be used as derogatory terms.

Personally, I prefer lesbian over any other word (except homosexual). The fact that people compare it to 2 hot women making out... Well, maybe I appreciate (kind of) the fact that they consider me worthy to play in such a part (if that makes any sense).

Actually, I've only once ever had a gay man hit on me seriously. Not comfortable.

But it's a lot rarer than having loud, obnoxious heterosexual men hitting on women. Kind of an eye-opener on how they feel when they're around us.

To be honest, I think it's harder for gay people to hit on others then for straight people. Unless you're certain the other person is gay, you might have your friendship blown or have them quite offended.
Just the way I feel tbh.

 

[Daniel]

Seriously, I'd sooner hit on a bag of rusty nails.

At least you have a chance at getting nailed.

/coat

 

[Danny]

Stop wearing a cloak. You have jackets.

 

[Hasis]

Finland almost got a homo president.

 

[Famine]

Were the previous ones not human?

 

[Dennisch]

It was a snowman.

 

[arora]

Based on my limited exposure to Fins online it's my contention they are indeed not human. Way to fast at gt, usually over intelligent, and full of common sense.

 

[Famine]

Because sisu.

 

[Small_Fryz]

Yes.

 

[Danny]

Dear Lord I hope this is real.

I have a feeling it's not, though.