The Human Comedy 8 - Gr.3 Lake Maggiore
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- breeminator
I think I probably COULD just about win this now. I tried it again the other week with the RCZ, doing a 2 stop RM, and I made a mistake at the 2nd stop and put RH on instead. I think I was 2nd by less than the time loss due to having RH rather than RM. I haven't tried it since the update, so the new physics might help. It's just hard to justify spending an hour on another attempt for possibly zero credits return.
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- nordschleife1951
Won it easily using the Merc-AMG, RM tires, FM1, 2 stops (end of laps 10 and 20). Passed Rubilar before the end of lap 3, and never saw him again. One thing that helps during the pit stops is to short fill the fuel - stop fueling when you have 10.5 laps of fuel on board. Go get ‘em!
- 11,921
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- GTP_WRP001
Everyone complains the AI has shorter pit stops but it's not true. They fill 100% on first stop so they only have to min fill on 2nd stop. If you use the min fill strategy on first stop then the AI [that do 2 stops] will have a longer first pit, but make up for it with a very fast 2nd pit since they need little additional fuel... so you have to build a good lead going into the 2nd pit stop to come out in front. I've heard a few people on this thread put in a tad more on first pit and thus less on 2nd pit, but I still think having lightest car possible is better and just hope you exit the pit with a favorable traffic situation.
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Gave this one a go today and thought I had it.. until the last few laps and my fuel saving "strat" failed me.
Used the RCZ on hards, running consistent 1:57s to 1:58s depending on tire wear and traffic. FL was a 1:56.668(!), but he was on RM, and you can see the delta drop as soon as their tires start giving up. Made it up to third, the two leaders pitted, and I pulled out another 30 or so seconds on them. Pitted myself on lap 14 nearly empty and went back out. Empty fuel pits take FOREVER. Came back into the lead again soon and pulled ahead by 14 or so seconds with about 6 laps to go... and about 3 laps of fuel left. I began metering fuel and trying to conserve as best as possible but couldn't hold off the AMG GT any longer... then the M8 came on the penultimate lap and I couldn't to anything about him either. I hoped for them to be stupid and pit on the last two laps, but no such luck. Came in third, 15sec off the leader running out of fuel about 200 feet from the finish line, 30 or so seconds ahead of fourth.
So for me, the one stop strat on RH didn't work out this time. If I were more conscious about fuel I might have made it work, but I was more focused on churning out quick laps, and dumb about fuel strategy. On RH, tires never really became a concern.
Next time I'm going to two stop on mediums, and count on shorter pit times with less fuel used. Should be able to make it work.
Was still a fun race though, and aside from a little slip sideways coming down the first hill (why we can't adjust brake balance is beyond me), I ran a very consistent and solid race. Look forward to getting into the 1:56s on mediums and holding a better pace throughout.
Should be a good time.
Used the RCZ on hards, running consistent 1:57s to 1:58s depending on tire wear and traffic. FL was a 1:56.668(!), but he was on RM, and you can see the delta drop as soon as their tires start giving up. Made it up to third, the two leaders pitted, and I pulled out another 30 or so seconds on them. Pitted myself on lap 14 nearly empty and went back out. Empty fuel pits take FOREVER. Came back into the lead again soon and pulled ahead by 14 or so seconds with about 6 laps to go... and about 3 laps of fuel left. I began metering fuel and trying to conserve as best as possible but couldn't hold off the AMG GT any longer... then the M8 came on the penultimate lap and I couldn't to anything about him either. I hoped for them to be stupid and pit on the last two laps, but no such luck. Came in third, 15sec off the leader running out of fuel about 200 feet from the finish line, 30 or so seconds ahead of fourth.
So for me, the one stop strat on RH didn't work out this time. If I were more conscious about fuel I might have made it work, but I was more focused on churning out quick laps, and dumb about fuel strategy. On RH, tires never really became a concern.
Next time I'm going to two stop on mediums, and count on shorter pit times with less fuel used. Should be able to make it work.
Was still a fun race though, and aside from a little slip sideways coming down the first hill (why we can't adjust brake balance is beyond me), I ran a very consistent and solid race. Look forward to getting into the 1:56s on mediums and holding a better pace throughout.
Should be a good time.
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I recommend trying Hyundai Genesis Gr.3 car for this race.
- pretty decent straight line speed and ok cornering
- pretty good on fuel
- racing medium tires, pit on end of 10th and end of 20th. traction control 1 for safety
- fueled to 11 laps on 1st pit stop, then 10 laps fuel on 2nd pit stop
- didn't win by huge margin, but still able to stay just ahead of Rubilar in the end (i'm not a fast driver)
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I don't wanna moan - I play to Gold everything and so managed to Gold virtually everything else I've worked on; this though is the devil's work.
I'm around 1:59-2:00s on RMs.
Or 2:00-2:02 on RHs.
If I get a good start I either can't sustain the pace myself, slowly succumb to the pressure the ever-increasing time difference between me and first is piling on me or get shunted/spin out pushing without TC. (The time between me and first has never dropped - is that normal? Even on my most incredible starts)
This challenge has taught me to go no Assists. Seeing the benefits but the margins are much finer, especially for an X and Square user as I can't modulate input/pedal pressure to mitigate spinning. Tried to switch and learn L2/R2 controls but it feels retarded - I actually feel like the muscle in my forearm and lower palm are about to spasm out or something ha ha.
****ing Rubilar.
I'm around 1:59-2:00s on RMs.
Or 2:00-2:02 on RHs.
If I get a good start I either can't sustain the pace myself, slowly succumb to the pressure the ever-increasing time difference between me and first is piling on me or get shunted/spin out pushing without TC. (The time between me and first has never dropped - is that normal? Even on my most incredible starts)
This challenge has taught me to go no Assists. Seeing the benefits but the margins are much finer, especially for an X and Square user as I can't modulate input/pedal pressure to mitigate spinning. Tried to switch and learn L2/R2 controls but it feels retarded - I actually feel like the muscle in my forearm and lower palm are about to spasm out or something ha ha.
****ing Rubilar.
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I was a analog stick right gas/brake guy, some decades ago, bought a PS5 and GTS before GT7 to learn the triggers after hearing they will have feedback in GT7.
Felt like a total noob in GTS for weeks/months, had the same pains, also physically. Now im doing 1:58s on RH in this race.
It was a hard way there, but it's totally worth it!
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- Droptop2001gt
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I currently have about 700 miles in the RCZ on this. In early attempts I was running 1:59-2:00 and finishing 10th. Then I was running 1:58-1:59 and finished 3rd. Now I'm running 1:57-1:58 and finishing 3rd.
My best effort had me in ahead of the main competitors after the first round of pit stops on lap 10. But the final stint had the AI taking massive chunks out of my gap. The NSX was untouchable, I was hitting consistent mid 1:57 and it was taking a second a lap out of me. So frustrating when you see yourself setting new PB for consecutive laps and not even maintaining the gap.
Hirzal in the WRX must have NOS or something - he was pulling out 1:55 and 1:54 in the last two attempts I've had.
My best effort had me in ahead of the main competitors after the first round of pit stops on lap 10. But the final stint had the AI taking massive chunks out of my gap. The NSX was untouchable, I was hitting consistent mid 1:57 and it was taking a second a lap out of me. So frustrating when you see yourself setting new PB for consecutive laps and not even maintaining the gap.
Hirzal in the WRX must have NOS or something - he was pulling out 1:55 and 1:54 in the last two attempts I've had.
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- GTP_WRP001
I won this by just 2 seconds about three weeks ago with the Mercedes-AMG with a total time of 1:00:39.116 (post). I finally got a chance to retry the mission with the Subaru BRZ and the BRZ is a lot faster... over a second a lap faster (for me at least) and cut 35 seconds over 30 laps. The BRZ is slower in a straight line for sure but so much faster in the corners and there isn't much drop off at the end of the stints. Need to focus on good exits and get on the throttle early. I was consistently running low 1:57 or high 1:56 laps when not in traffic. Fastest lap was a 1:56.3XX and had a 1:55 in the cards a couple times but made mistakes. Two stop strategy with RM tires, 10.5 laps of fuel each pit. Took over 9 laps to get by Rubilar into first at the start, just before my stop, but I guess his race fell apart after that. Beauvois had a typical race for him with time of 1:00:30 ish. He started the last stint about 25 seconds down and basically matched my pace for the most part losing on 3 seconds over 10 laps. I made hard contact with back markers under blue flag twice when they "moved over" right in my path otherwise might have had to run 31 laps... fuel would have been an issue.
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He was on a weird strategy. He pitted on lap 11 and 21 for some reason. After my second pit I came out directly behind him thinking he did a super fast stop and worried... pushed and got on his bumper by last corner, but he pitted at that point and never saw him again. ???Tfw Rubilar not 2nd
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As suggested on some replies, since I play on controller I tried de Hyundai Genesis. Pretty easy run since is fast on straight, turns really well and have loads of fuel. Got rammed by the AI after pit stop losing about 8 seconds but still ended in front of Rubilar and Beauvais. In the end finished with 12 seconds ahead of p2. Used RM-RM-RM strat. Refueling 10.5 laps each pit stop. Fastest lap was 1:55.9 (no clue how I did that), with most of them being 1:58-:159 depending on tyre wear. Normal difficulty
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- akz24
Got gold using the vette, 1 stop, RH strat. No assists except abs. Lap times were 1.58 avg. Pitted at the 30 min mark with something like 15 % fuel remaining. I made it a little extra interesting for myself by misjudging how much fuel to take on and spent the last few laps on FM3 and watched a 15 second lead drop to one sec by the finish line.
Note to others who have interest in trying the vette. You need to short shift this car to get the fuel benefits, and it still has good straight line speed. Someone more knowledgeable about the gt7 physics could probably explain why this is.
Note to others who have interest in trying the vette. You need to short shift this car to get the fuel benefits, and it still has good straight line speed. Someone more knowledgeable about the gt7 physics could probably explain why this is.
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- GTP_SnowCrash
I also tried with the Vette first with the RH 1-stopper, but couldn't make it work. I had to use FM3/4 to make it to the 30-minute mark, and that slowed me down too much. Now I know that short-shifting apparently would have been better than reducing FM...
In the end I started over with the RM 2-stopper and that was pretty straight forward. Ran 55 high to 58 low in the 3 stints and won by 30 seconds.
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Did it today using the RM 2 stop strat mentioned in my previous post. RCZ, ABS only, RMs pitting on lap 10 and 20. Fastest lap was a 1:56.4. Ran consistent 1:56s for the first 5 or so laps per set of tires, but after that they fall off pretty quickly and times suffer.
I'm a dumb ass, because with three laps to go, and more than 20sec on the field, I spun going downhill into what I think is turn 5, ruining my clean race and ego. Pitched right, then overcorrected into the wall on the left. It's really the only corner that ever gives me trouble, because if you brake while turning there is a chance the car just comes around, and that's what happened on worn mediums. This made it so that I only finished 5sec ahead... really pissed myself off. Would have been nice to keep that gap, and I'm lucky I got the thing turned around in enough time to win anyway.
The RM 2 stop proved itself to be a better strategy, and once I came out of the first pit, and passed the top 5 up again, I didn't see anyone except back markers for the rest of the race. I still had more fun on the RH tires though, they just last so much longer and are very predictable for longer as well.
Either way... it's done now. It is fun enough to give another go sometime though. Would be fun to try it in the Vette.
I'm a dumb ass, because with three laps to go, and more than 20sec on the field, I spun going downhill into what I think is turn 5, ruining my clean race and ego. Pitched right, then overcorrected into the wall on the left. It's really the only corner that ever gives me trouble, because if you brake while turning there is a chance the car just comes around, and that's what happened on worn mediums. This made it so that I only finished 5sec ahead... really pissed myself off. Would have been nice to keep that gap, and I'm lucky I got the thing turned around in enough time to win anyway.
The RM 2 stop proved itself to be a better strategy, and once I came out of the first pit, and passed the top 5 up again, I didn't see anyone except back markers for the rest of the race. I still had more fun on the RH tires though, they just last so much longer and are very predictable for longer as well.
Either way... it's done now. It is fun enough to give another go sometime though. Would be fun to try it in the Vette.
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I've brought every gr3 car and failed this until just with hyundai genesis. Everyone says pit end of lap 10 and 20 and put the % of fuel you need for 10 laps etc in which is correct 🤣 but they also tell turn assist of etc. I don't usually put them on but just thought I'd try..... I put Abs default... All driving line assistance on.... Braking indicator on same as area.. Active stability on....... Countersteering assist on.... Fuel map 1.....and also traction control 2..also using auto gearbox 👍👍👍 I'm a happy chappy. Won by over 2 seconds
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- daabulls
I’ve tried this twice so far, and the AI has done an 1:00:22.6 sec and a 1:00:24.1 sec. They are flying out there, but I might have to try something other than the Corvette.
1 stop definitely a no. Would’ve been good for about a 1:00:45 if I didn’t spin with 5 laps to go. My first race of a 2-stop just filled with bad driving and penalties.
1 stop definitely a no. Would’ve been good for about a 1:00:45 if I didn’t spin with 5 laps to go. My first race of a 2-stop just filled with bad driving and penalties.
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Yeah, I don't know how a three stop would even work. That third stop would put you behind everyone in the lead even if you didn't take fuel, and you shouldn't need another set of tires either.
The AI should be around the 1:56-2:00 marks depending on where everyone is at in the race. 1:00 lap times would be cutting the times in half! That's some otherworldly fast AI! Ha ha.
Redvette above did a one stop with the Vette short shifting (which works well with the big NA V8 it has) and using RH tires, which should hold up fairly well for a whole race if you're not pushing for ultimate fast times the whole race. You really need to be in the 1:57s to 1:58s on fresh tires to stay competitive.
As me and others have done, you can step up to the RM tire and pit around the 10 lap and 20 lap marks, but the mediums tend to fall off the pace much quicker than the hards do. When I do another fun one with the Vette, I'm gonna try for the one stop on hards.
nummer0 I read your race guide and, wow, I don't think that would work for anyone whos struggling with this. If you look around, most of those with issues are running 1:57s and above, you had to lay down consecutive 1:56s to make your strategy work, pay attention to another stop, and pay way too close attention to AI position. The reason people haven't done it, is because you literally add stress and difficulty to the mission!
I was running consistent 1:56s to 1:57s and if I didn't spin like an idiot on the third to last lap, I would have won by about 20 seconds, 8 seconds more than your race, if I hadn't spun. I still won by over 5 with a major mistake! You had to put in faster lap times to come out in a worse position with your three stop model.
I don't think too many people are going to be trying it unless they want an added challenge, and considering the nature of this thread, that's highly doubtful.
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- Droptop2001gt
I think he was saying that the total time for the whole race was going to be 1:00:45.000 (1 hour plus 45 seconds) at the end of lap 30, not that a single lap time was 1:00.45 (1 minute plus 0.45 seconds).
@WRP001 did a breakdown earlier in the thread showing that 1:00:30.xxx was usually fast enough to win the event, without the AI having any extra stops, weird incidents, or terrible luck in traffic.
I was one of the slowest gold times because I held up the faster AI by staying out in front of them on hard tires, which slowed them down considerably. However, this only worked for me because of my positive track position. Had I been behind the faster AI cars at any point, I couldn't have won with that time.
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I had another attempt last night. Completed in 1hr 30sec. Finished 20 seconds behind beavois. I was in the lead in middle stint, came out of final pit 2 seconds behind beavois. I pushed too hard though the fast middle section and lost 1 second on him and gained a 1.5 second penalty. Race basically over at that point. Rubillo overtook me during the penalty and then it was a battle for second.
I think I just got unlucky this time. Beavois got to the front by end of lap 2 and had clean air almost the entire race. As he came up to others during the middle stint they would go in the pit and he woule lose minimal time.
I think I just got unlucky this time. Beavois got to the front by end of lap 2 and had clean air almost the entire race. As he came up to others during the middle stint they would go in the pit and he woule lose minimal time.
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