The Human Comedy 8 - Gr.3 Lake Maggiore

[Alex p.]

Yeah, I don't know how a three stop would even work. That third stop would put you behind everyone in the lead even if you didn't take fuel, and you shouldn't need another set of tires either.


The AI should be around the 1:56-2:00 marks depending on where everyone is at in the race. 1:00 lap times would be cutting the times in half! That's some otherworldly fast AI! Ha ha.

Redvette above did a one stop with the Vette short shifting (which works well with the big NA V8 it has) and using RH tires, which should hold up fairly well for a whole race if you're not pushing for ultimate fast times the whole race. You really need to be in the 1:57s to 1:58s on fresh tires to stay competitive.

As me and others have done, you can step up to the RM tire and pit around the 10 lap and 20 lap marks, but the mediums tend to fall off the pace much quicker than the hards do. When I do another fun one with the Vette, I'm gonna try for the one stop on hards.



nummer0 I read your race guide and, wow, I don't think that would work for anyone whos struggling with this. If you look around, most of those with issues are running 1:57s and above, you had to lay down consecutive 1:56s to make your strategy work, pay attention to another stop, and pay way too close attention to AI position. The reason people haven't done it, is because you literally add stress and difficulty to the mission!

I was running consistent 1:56s to 1:57s and if I didn't spin like an idiot on the third to last lap, I would have won by about 20 seconds, 8 seconds more than your race, if I hadn't spun. I still won by over 5 with a major mistake! You had to put in faster lap times to come out in a worse position with your three stop model.

I don't think too many people are going to be trying it unless they want an added challenge, and considering the nature of this thread, that's highly doubtful.

A one stopper on RHs with the Vette is actually quite difficult. I failed at it.

 

[Moondance]

I recommend trying Hyundai Genesis Gr.3 car for this race.

• pretty decent straight line speed and ok cornering
• pretty good on fuel
• racing medium tires, pit on end of 10th and end of 20th. traction control 1 for safety
• fueled to 11 laps on 1st pit stop, then 10 laps fuel on 2nd pit stop
• didn't win by huge margin, but still able to stay just ahead of Rubilar in the end (i'm not a fast driver)

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Brilliant !! Brilliant !!! Excellent strategy, absolutely perfect. Won by 10.89 sec. Doing consistent 1'57 - 1'58. Second full race.

 

[Doncarlone]

I recommend trying Hyundai Genesis Gr.3 car for this race.

• pretty decent straight line speed and ok cornering
• pretty good on fuel
• racing medium tires, pit on end of 10th and end of 20th. traction control 1 for safety
• fueled to 11 laps on 1st pit stop, then 10 laps fuel on 2nd pit stop
• didn't win by huge margin, but still able to stay just ahead of Rubilar in the end (i'm not a fast driver)

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The one I used to win this race. Great car

 

[Sunzi]

Man... you guys are filling me with optimism to now try the Genesis 😬😬😬

 

[Boxster]

Finally managed gold in the BRZ. 1:00:39, most laps 1:58s, best lap 1:57 flat. Bauvois second, 2 secs behind. Made 2 mistakes, cost me 10 secs.
I think I need a shower now

 

[WRP001]

I had another attempt last night. Completed in 1hr 30sec. Finished 20 seconds behind beavois. I was in the lead in middle stint, came out of final pit 2 seconds behind beavois. I pushed too hard though the fast middle section and lost 1 second on him and gained a 1.5 second penalty. Race basically over at that point. Rubillo overtook me during the penalty and then it was a battle for second.

I think I just got unlucky this time. Beavois got to the front by end of lap 2 and had clean air almost the entire race. As he came up to others during the middle stint they would go in the pit and he woule lose minimal time.

Yup, bad luck. With that pace you can do it, but on a typical run Beavois will be right there and potentially Rubilar too so pressure will be intense. Good fun. Frustrating at times but pushes you to get better. If you can improve in one or two corners (shave a couple tenths) that’ll be 5-6 seconds over the 30 laps and the margin you need.

Before I retried with the BRZ I set hp/weight with ecu/ballast to match BoP and got my lap times to consistent 1,56/1’57 in TT mode using ghost. The improvements translated exactly to the race (for that car when in clean air). If you are running 1:00:30 now and you can shave a little time it will give you that margin for error. Hard to run for an hour without some sort of small issue. Come out of second stop in front of Beavois and it will be a completely different story. You can still win if you are right behind him entering first pit stop, he will have long stop for fuel and then you need to gain time on second stint in hopefully clean air.

Good luck.

Ps. I wish there were additional payouts for subsequent wins.. I would like to try with additional cars and alternate strategies. I might still because credits don’t replace fun, but would be nice lol.

 

[Agent_Tiro]

Yup, bad luck. With that pace you can do it, but on a typical run Beavois will be right there and potentially Rubilar too so pressure will be intense. Good fun. Frustrating at times but pushes you to get better. If you can improve in one or two corners (shave a couple tenths) that’ll be 5-6 seconds over the 30 laps and the margin you need.

Before I retried with the BRZ I set hp/weight with ecu/ballast to match BoP and got my lap times to consistent 1,56/1’57 in TT mode using ghost. The improvements translated exactly to the race (for that car when in clean air). If you are running 1:00:30 now and you can shave a little time it will give you that margin for error. Hard to run for an hour without some sort of small issue. Come out of second stop in front of Beavois and it will be a completely different story. You can still win if you are right behind him entering first pit stop, he will have long stop for fuel and then you need to gain time on second stint in hopefully clean air.

Good luck.

Ps. I wish there were additional payouts for subsequent wins.. I would like to try with additional cars and alternate strategies. I might still because credits don’t replace fun, but would be nice lol.

Yeah, I am enjoying the challenge and it is pushing me to improve my knowledge of the track. There are a few corners I need to improve my consistency on and it should reduce the number of 1:58 laps. I know if I can be within 2 seconds of beavois after second stop I can get past him during the fast sequence of turns before the banked corner. Then I can concentrate on getting through the traffic.

Last nights attempt was just bad luck, most the runs I've had Im ahead of beavois before lap 10 and just chasing the Supra. But this one he got a good run and then clean air and I was playing catch up from that point on. Luck of the draw, traffic not going my way. I will get it next time

 

[nordschleife51]

Ps. I wish there were additional payouts for subsequent wins

No kidding! It’s ridiculous that the Human Comedy missions are one and done for the payouts. Same for many of the longer missions - 30 laps at Tsukuba and 24 minutes of Le Mans to name a couple. I would do these repeatedly if they paid, but not spending an hour on a race for zero credits.

Thankful that they didn’t put the 1 hour Spa race into the Human Comedy missions. 👍

 

[StirlingMoose]

Today I had my fourth attempt at this. Got my lap times down to 57/58 and was actually in P1 after my second pit stop. 15 minutes to go coming into the fast esses and the screen went black. Five seconds later the picture re-appeared and I was stationary looking at a wall.
It's happened a couple of times before. Don't know if it's the PS4 or my TV.

 

[scooterlord]

Today I had my fourth attempt at this. Got my lap times down to 57/58 and was actually in P1 after my second pit stop. 15 minutes to go coming into the fast esses and the screen went black. Five seconds later the picture re-appeared and I was stationary looking at a wall.
It's happened a couple of times before. Don't know if it's the PS4 or my TV.

Sometimes happen to me, be prepared to hit the menu button when this happens - in my case I think it has something to do with the whole cable-Avr-handshake thing… :/

 

[WRP001]

No kidding! It’s ridiculous that the Human Comedy missions are one and done for the payouts. Same for many of the longer missions - 30 laps at Tsukuba and 24 minutes of Le Mans to name a couple. I would do these repeatedly if they paid, but not spending an hour on a race for zero credits.

Thankful that they didn’t put the 1 hour Spa race into the Human Comedy missions. 👍

It's also a shame they have the game setup so that credits are more important than just having fun or getting better. You could spend hours in a week on a TT competition (e.g. WRS) and make zero credits. But it's a fantastic way to improve... just many people won't do it because there are no payouts. Or you can manipulate PP with a glitch and exploit it for quick credits and your driving gets no better at all.

 

[ROCKET JOE]

Today I had my fourth attempt at this. Got my lap times down to 57/58 and was actually in P1 after my second pit stop. 15 minutes to go coming into the fast esses and the screen went black. Five seconds later the picture re-appeared and I was stationary looking at a wall.
It's happened a couple of times before. Don't know if it's the PS4 or my TV.

I know your pain, mate.
My DS4 has such dropouts once in a while letting the car instantly run into the next wall ahead at full speed.
I can even watch it on the screen.

 

[StirlingMoose]

Sometimes happen to me, be prepared to hit the menu button when this happens - in my case I think it has something to do with the whole cable-Avr-handshake thing… :/

Good to know it's not just me. I'm going to be much quicker on the menu button next time. Although it had happened before it hadn't been at such a crucial time. I just sat there frozen in disbelief.

 

[WRP001]

Well, I won this mission for a third time testing a different car: Corvette C7 Gr.3. Same 2 stop strategy (lap 10 and 20) with RM tires. Shifting at 6500 rpm this car has better straight line speed so it was a lot better getting a good jump on the start and passing quite a few cars in the first few turns with some aggressive moves. With the BRZ I passed maybe 1 car in turn one and 1 in turn two since you lose ground immediately at the green flag so much more work to get by traffic early. With the Corvette I got into the top 3 by end of the first lap and passed Beauvois for first on lap 3 or 4. However, tire degradation is much worse in the Corvette vs the BRZ, probably because it understeers like a pig in the high speed corners so you push on those front tires. I got a little better in terms of tire wear in the second two stints not stressing the tires so much. With the BRZ you could just push and push since it was so good in turns. Came out of second stop with an 18 second lead on Beauvois and pretty much matched lap times for the rest of the race.

Fast lap was a 1'56.5 -- ran three laps of 1.56.5xx, a couple 58's at end of first stint with worn tires, and a couple 58s in last stint due to lapped traffic. Every other lap was a 1'57.

Overall I'd put the Corvette on par or slightly ahead of the Mercedes-AMG GT3 overall but definitely behind the Subaru BRZ. The Corvette is pretty well behaved, just doesn't turn as well as the Subaru. The AMG is a bit more tricky to drive, but turns better than the Corvette IMO.

Subaru BRZ ........ 1:00:04.230
Corvette C7 Gr.3 .. 1:00:13.960
Mercedes-AMG GT3 .. 1:00:39.116 (I've gotten better at track since this run)

 

[Sunzi]

I see some hope in the Hyundai Genesis.

I'm still not quick enough but I was finally registering a lot of 1:58s as compared with previous bests of 1:59s but generally 2:00 laps.

I actually managed to finish the race in the Genesis as well; hadn't managed a finish before today.

I need to find another second from somewhere more often.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

Yes, Fuel Map 1 all the race. The Subaru is very fast, very good handling even with bad tyres and gives very good fuel save.

1st pit was after I finished the 10 lap. I putted new RM tyres and fueled up for 10.5 laps.
2nd pit was after I finished the 20 lap. I putted new RM tyres and fueled up for 11 laps, though after I finished the race at lap 30, I left with fuel for another lap.

My laps time was not great 1:57 - 1:59, 1:58 most of the time. Maybe some 2:00 at the end of the tyres life. I was very focused on the track so I did not care about my laps time, as far as I was first or I was able to catch the cars in front of me.

One small mistake almost at the end of the race that cost me 2sec.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

Holy Jesus I did it! Attempt #6 and by just 0.5 seconds! Beavouis, Rubilar and myself trading top 3 positions all race then last 10 min, out of nowhere, the 911 blasts past both of them and had to defend for final 3 laps 😅😅 so happy!

 

[Sunzi]

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Holy Jesus I did it! Attempt #6 and by just 0.5 seconds! Beavouis, Rubilar and myself trading top 3 positions all race then last 10 min, out of nowhere, the 911 blasts past both of them and had to defend for final 3 laps 😅😅 so happy!

Jealous. Much!

Despite my frustrations with this race, I actually love the fact that I havent done it yet; like the License tests - some were driving me insane but now they're all golded, I feel empty at not having them to do - I love the missions/tests and challenges.

Like everything else, I will not give up until I win this.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

Jealous. Much!

Despite my frustrations with this race, I actually love the fact that I havent done it yet; like the License tests - some were driving me insane but now they're all golded, I feel empty at not having them to do - I love the missions/tests and challenges.

Like everything else, I will not give up until I win this.

Only one left to win is the BAC in Trial Mountain. Love the track, hate the car...

 

[Sunzi]

Only one left to win is the BAC in Trial Mountain. Love the track, hate the car...

If you did Maggiore, you will cruise Trial Mountain.

It was a won and done for me in one go.

Feel free to experiment or if you wanna just win. RS and go as far as your tank will take you. Very straight-forward.

You can't up the power or lower the weight (those are race regs for this) but you can upgrade your brakes, handling, chassis etc.

 

[tmtk]

The BRZ is good also for an average driver like me (using ds4 dir. buttons + X/square).

Managed to win this in 1 hour 50 seconds. Did laps 1:58/59 mainly, fastest was 57.5
No major mistakes, just one off on the grass and quickly back on track.

2 stops with RM tires, fuelled for 10.5 laps.
A little luck with others pitting (Rubilar was still ghosting after exiting pits when he ran at my back for turn 1), also I was miliseconds faster to exit pits than Beauvois and managed to defend for 2 laps until we met traffic and he got lost in there a little to give me some space.

So with the BRZ there is hope for not the best players still.

 

[Comat0sed]

Just managed to win this!

Been trying multiple cars for a few laps to see which best suited me, ended up going with the Genesis, quickly becoming a favourite of mine! Won by 3.5 seconds over Rubilar, thoroughly enjoyed that!

 

[Sunzi]

The BRZ is good also for an average driver like me (using ds4 dir. buttons + X/square).

Managed to win this in 1 hout 50 seconds. Did laps 1:58/59 mainly, fastest was 57.5
No major mistakes, just one off on the grass and quickly back on track.

2 stops with RM tires, fuelled for 10.5 laps.
A little luck with others pitting (Rubilar was still ghosting after exiting pits when he ran at my back for turn 1), also I was miliseconds faster to exit pits than Beauvois and managed to defend for 2 laps until we met traffic and he got lost in there a little to give me some space.

So with the BRZ there is hope for not the best players still.

I love the BRZ it handles superbly like a Gr.2 car with less power but even from the first moment, first straight it starts falling behind before the first corner.

Very impressive man - I feel the limitations of X and Square are holding me back - no exuses, I need to be better too but this is a brilliant win. 👌

Just managed to win this!

Been trying multiple cars for a few laps to see which best suited me, ended up going with the Genesis, quickly becoming a favourite of mine! Won by 3.5 seconds over Rubilar, thoroughly enjoyed that!

Amazing mate. I'm definitely feeling the love for the Genesis and have gone from feeling completely hopeless at this challenge to now thinking I might have a chance.

What was your strat - the Genesis has exceptional fuel capability. 15 Laps on RMs before needing a refuel (though the tires will be shagged before then).

Looking forward to getting home from work and giving it another go.

 

[Comat0sed]

Amazing mate. I'm definitely feeling the love for the Genesis and have gone from feeling completely hopeless at this challenge to now thinking I might have a chance.

What was your strat - the Genesis has exceptional fuel capability. 15 Laps on RMs before needing a refuel (though the tires will be shagged before then).

Looking forward to getting home from work and giving it another go.

I did a 2 stop on RM, FM1. Pitted at the 20 minute mark, changed tyres, 13 laps of fuel. Next stop at the 40 minute mark, change tyres and put enough fuel in for 10.5 laps. Rubilar pitted the lap after me, when he came out we were directly alongside each other, made for an intense couple of corners!

Fastest lap was a low 57, managed to keep it the 57s most of time. Slowest laps in the 59s towards the end of a stint.

 

[Bullwinkle]

The BRZ is good also for an average driver like me (using ds4 dir. buttons + X/square).

Managed to win this in 1 hout 50 seconds. Did laps 1:58/59 mainly, fastest was 57.5
No major mistakes, just one off on the grass and quickly back on track.

2 stops with RM tires, fuelled for 10.5 laps.
A little luck with others pitting (Rubilar was still ghosting after exiting pits when he ran at my back for turn 1), also I was miliseconds faster to exit pits than Beauvois and managed to defend for 2 laps until we met traffic and he got lost in there a little to give me some space.

So with the BRZ there is hope for not the best players still.

This gives me hope. I’ve tried a lot of cars, but not the BRZ. I’ve tried all the usual suspects that people have mentioned, but they’re either too unstable for me or not fast enough on the straights. I do, however, love the other Subaru instead, the WRX. It’s well rounded with power and great torque so it can be short shifted and leap out of the right corners. It is so fuel efficient I tried a different two stop approach: RH for 40 min on FM 3, then RM for the last 20 at FM 1. Don’t bother trying that… but it’s an easy normal one stop on FM1 if that’s your thing.

I’m also loving the DBR9. It’s naturally aspirated so you can just jam the throttle all the way to the red line. It’s also stable and smooth if you keep the RPMs up, and for me it matches the top speed of any of the other power cars (Vette, AMG, etc) on that long downhill hairpin, which is where I make up a lot of my time. It just doesn’t accelerate as well as those other beasts if you don’t keep the RPMs up.

So for my style, those are my two most successful cars so far. Still no gold yet, but I’m getting close. I golded the circuit experience with that crappy Alpha, but I can’t crack the 1:58 barrier in my lap times with anything.

 

[tmtk]

This gives me hope. I’ve tried a lot of cars, but not the BRZ. I’ve tried all the usual suspects that people have mentioned, but they’re either too unstable for me or not fast enough on the straights.

BRZ is also lacking in straight speed, but it totally kills in fast flowing corners, especially this left-right-longleft-right segment mid-track. The downforce is brutal, car is totally planted on the tarmac and your speed is insane through there.
One piece of advice: turn off TC - this is fundamental. BRZ is so glued to the road you don't need to watch you gas, it won't twitch 95% of the times. You only need to be careful with gas in slow, tight corners like turn 1 and 2 especially. Coming out of turn 2 is most dangerous. Other than that just step on it.

 

[Bullwinkle]

BRZ is also lacking in straight speed, but it totally kills in fast flowing corners, especially this left-right-longleft-right segment mid-track. The downforce is brutal, car is totally planted on the tarmac and your speed is insane through there.
One piece of advice: turn off TC - this is fundamental. BRZ is so glued to the road you don't need to watch you gas, it won't twitch 95% of the times. You only need to be careful with gas in slow, tight corners like turn 1 and 2 especially. Coming out of turn 2 is most dangerous. Other than that just step on it.

I’m working towards turning TC off, but I’m not there yet. I know that’s holding me back, but so is spinning out! I’m going to work on each of the circuit experiences after this race and learn them without TC, but for now I just want to get through the mission and move on. I tried the Maggiore circuit experience without it, but that Alpha is crazy-unstable and is way too frustrating without assistance.

 

[tmtk]

Try the BRZ - you'll be surprised how stable it is out of corners

I'm using X button as gas, so you can't get less sensitive than that and still the only serious place it may want to spin is out of turn 2

 

[Comat0sed]

I’m working towards turning TC off, but I’m not there yet. I know that’s holding me back, but so is spinning out! I’m going to work on each of the circuit experiences after this race and learn them without TC, but for now I just want to get through the mission and move on. I tried the Maggiore circuit experience without it, but that Alpha is crazy-unstable and is way too frustrating without assistance.

Leave the MFD on the traction control and switch between 1 and 0 as and where you can get away with it. You'll gain time.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

If you did Maggiore, you will cruise Trial Mountain.

It was a won and done for me in one go.

Feel free to experiment or if you wanna just win. RS and go as far as your tank will take you. Very straight-forward.

You can't up the power or lower the weight (those are race regs for this) but you can upgrade your brakes, handling, chassis etc.

Mate, you are a LEGEND !!

i had tried and quit twice using mediums and fuel saving but couldn't keep up. Took your advice and went softs with Map 1 and pitted twice, all out first 2 stints then cruised on the last one with a 50 second gap on second

Bit underwhelmed with the reward you get for all gold in Human Comedy though, a car i will never use...