The Illuminati and other Conspiracy Theories thread

[Neddo]

Nope, just someone who seems to think that Facebook is part of a global conspiracy because a post about using flags of Middle East and other non European as a sign of solidarity was removed.

Now his post may well have been, and I have no idea why, but the claim it was because of that suggestion is nonsense. No only have many many others voiced the exact same sentiment, but have also used such flags in that way without them being removed (myself included).

That journalist also generally said that victims are victims no matter from where they are, the removed post also had comments "which didn't sparkle hate" according to journalist. Yes I agree that it's kinda wierd that dark forces removed his FB post considering similar or even the post about FB itself not removed.

 

[Scaff]

That journalist also generally said that victims are victims no matter from where they are, the removed post also had comments "which didn't sparkle hate" according to journalist. Yes I agree that it's kinda wierd that dark forces removed his FB post considering similar or even the post about FB itself not removed.

I think its kind of weird you think that 'dark forces' did it?

On what basis do you come to that conclusion?

 

[Dotini]

Almost 10 minutes of anomalies filmed in space be NASA and the Soviet/Russia space agency. It is purported as evidence that the "Powers That Be are indeed aware of far more about our mysterious Universe than they are ever willing to admit to us. We, the plebeian masses of this planet, are being held in a state of enforced ignorance, deemed not worthy of knowing the full truth by those who are REALLY "running the show" down here on Earth."

FWIW, I personally witnessed a phenomenon similar to that seen commencing at 8:50 at a location that later became a nuclear submarine base. For a long time, I thought it might be alien, but came to the conclusion it was natural - even commonplace - phenomenon on Earth and in space.

 

[Neddo]

I think its kind of weird you think that 'dark forces' did it?

On what basis do you come to that conclusion?

Dark forces=unknown.

I don't know what to say about that UFO video.

 

[Scaff]

Dark forces=unknown.

Dark Forces implies a sinister, malevolent and underhand reason; unknown doesn't.

Unless evidence exists for the former it shouldn't be assumed to be true.

I don't know what to say about that UFO video.

I'd say its a mix of blurry images and footage of unknown providence that may well have been doctored to attempt to prove a point.

 

[Dotini]

The USAF wants to detonate plasma bombs in the ionosphere, ostensibly to improve radio communication. Could there be another reason?

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/air-force-plasma-bomb-radio-communications/

NOAA

 

[x3ra]

I think this is as good a place as any to start.

 

[Scaff]

I think this is as good a place as any to start.

With what?

That at no point either mentions or provides any evidence of a NWO.

Quite the opposite, it describes a form of viral capitalism that is out of the control of the countries that created it.

It suggests quite the opposite of NWO.

 

[x3ra]

With what?

We are discussing the reasons why the planet's in the state it's in and whether it is guided by a hidden hand, whether it's just coincidence that it seems that way or something in between.

That at no point either mentions or provides any evidence of a NWO.

Quite the opposite, it describes a form of viral capitalism that is out of the control of the countries that created it.

It suggests quite the opposite of NWO.

Indeed it does. But only if you think that it is something that the PTB can't control. It is obviously the biggest problem on the planet. There is no other problem that comes close. And how are the PTB dealing with it? I would like to suggest that the capitalist scumbags, who, collectively, have no concern for the well-being of the planet, are responsible and should be dealt with. It's not really that difficult to figure out what to do, however doing it is a question of principle, not economics.

Example: Windpower and soloar power are quite obviously the best ways to create electricity. Yet we are considering building anothe nuclear power station. Madness.. The best way to deal with any environmental problems created by energy production would be to use the least environmentally damaging solution, not the one that makes the most money. Especially since climate-change is man-made.(up for debate)

 

[BobK]

PTB

What's a PTB?

Example: Windpower and soloar power are quite obviously the best ways to create electricity.

Which way is the best way depends very much on the criteria used to determine "best". Environmental impact is just one criterion. So is profitability. There are others as well. Seems to me that you're looking at a single aspect of the equation.

And how do the Illuminati fit into this?

 

[Northstar]

The best way to deal with any environmental problems created by energy production would be to use the least environmentally damaging solution,

Since when is clearing large chunks of land and putting up bird slicers not environment damaging?

 

[TenEightyOne]

Since when is clearing large chunks of land and putting up bird slicers not environment damaging?

Probably for another thread... but the bulk of the turbines near me are at sea rather than on land, and even on land they're statistically waaay less dangerous than cats (300,000 to 3 billion)

Still...

Which way is the best way depends very much on the criteria used to determine "best".

This.

And how do the Illuminati fit into this?

And this

 

[niky]

That journalist also generally said that victims are victims no matter from where they are, the removed post also had comments "which didn't sparkle hate" according to journalist. Yes I agree that it's kinda wierd that dark forces removed his FB post considering similar or even the post about FB itself not removed.

There's no conspiracy with Facebook.

If enough accounts report the post or account in question, automatic algorithms take it down.

Facebook's actual, living breathing moderators are overstretched and mostly useless. I've reported several items that they didn't act on and several that they did... with no rhyme or reason for identical cases being treated differently.

 

[Neddo]

I don't know what happened honestly.

 

[x3ra]

Since when is clearing large chunks of land and putting up bird slicers not environment damaging?

Please note : I said

least damaging

. If there were a better way then I would choose that.

PTB - powers that be. I understand that there are numerous criteria. Would you puts profits over environmental factors? I know that's what capitalists do. Doesn't make it right because it's the cheapest does it?

 

[TVR27]

Conspiracy: Comes from Latin word 'conspirare' meaning to breathe together; conspiracy theories emphasize the invisible forces and actions (of selfish harmful intent by special interests) behind the visible historical events.

 

[FoRiZon]

I have a conspiracy.

Those Conspiracy theorists are on a mission to brainwash people.

 

[TVR27]

I have a conspiracy.

Those Conspiracy theorists are on a mission to brainwash people.

So does mainstream media.

 

[Neddo]

So does mainstream media.

Mainstream media can be asshole but indie one is too strong.

I have a conspiracy.

Those Conspiracy theorists are on a mission to brainwash people.

all those end of world dates

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

PTB - powers that be. I understand that there are numerous criteria. Would you puts profits over environmental factors? I know that's what capitalists do. Doesn't make it right because it's the cheapest does it?

One...how does this have to do yet again with the illuminati? Cause some backroom board convinces either national or local gov't to build either a hydroelectric dam or a nuclear power station with many substations on a grid for (in this case let's say) state wide power.

Also what you're claiming seems to be the harp streams of some bygone can't be bothered to understand environmentalist ideal. That the cheapest source is the most deadliest, which is silly, cause as others said and you seemed to just pass over, is not how it works. However, you talk solely about people trying to scorch Earth with pollution essentially, which I mean you don't seem to take the disposal processes of such things into mind since it counters your ideals.

Second unlike solar arrays and wind farms, you can literally build a nuclear powerplant any where, and not have to worry about the factors of the other two. What companies and engineers those chemical, environmental and many others take into account is cost, feasibility, and environment. If you have place that has minimal wind shear and is cloudy 60% of the year, you really don't have many options left on the table.

 

[FoRiZon]

So does mainstream media.

Dont forget those sweet sweet muneys.

 

[x3ra]

One...how does this have to do yet again with the illuminati? Cause some backroom board convinces either national or local gov't to build either a hydroelectric dam or a nuclear power station with many substations on a grid for (in this case let's say) state wide power.

Also what you're claiming seems to be the harp streams of some bygone can't be bothered to understand environmentalist ideal. That the cheapest source is the most deadliest, which is silly, cause as others said and you seemed to just pass over, is not how it works. However, you talk solely about people trying to scorch Earth with pollution essentially, which I mean you don't seem to take the disposal processes of such things into mind since it counters your ideals.

Second unlike solar arrays and wind farms, you can literally build a nuclear powerplant any where, and not have to worry about the factors of the other two. What companies and engineers those chemical, environmental and many others take into account is cost, feasibility, and environment. If you have place that has minimal wind shear and is cloudy 60% of the year, you really don't have many options left on the table.

Hydro-electric seems to me to be, on balance an excellent way to generate electricity, and I have never said otherwise. Nuclear-power on the other hand, appears to me, in the long run, to be an extremely unhealthy way to generate electricity. Even assuming that there are no accidents, which we know that there are, this country alone has huge repercussions 8000 swimming pools of waste just from decommissioning Sellafield. https://ukinventory.nda.gov.uk/wp-c...40010_-_Waste_Quantities_from_all_Sources.pdf

But you are right, a distraction from the topic.

 

[Famine]

Even assuming that there are no accidents, which we know that there are, this country alone has huge repercussions 8000 swimming pools of waste

Define 'waste'. If you scoop up a handful of dirt a step outside the threshold of a nuclear power station and take one step inside with it, you would be prevented from leaving with your handful of low level nuclear waste. Take a banana in with your lunch and you'd be shot* if you forgot to eat it and tried to take it home.

*Maybe not actually shot, but I wouldn't chance it.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Hydro-electric seems to me to be, on balance an excellent way to generate electricity, and I have never said otherwise. Nuclear-power on the other hand, appears to me, in the long run, to be an extremely unhealthy way to generate electricity. Even assuming that there are no accidents, which we know that there are, this country alone has huge repercussions 8000 swimming pools of waste just from decommissioning Sellafield. https://ukinventory.nda.gov.uk/wp-c...40010_-_Waste_Quantities_from_all_Sources.pdf

But you are right, a distraction from the topic.

So I take you have no inclination of how "waste" is dealt with or even such things as http://www.nytimes.com/cwire/2010/0...that-burns-depleted-fuel-emerges-a-72189.html

I mean in the article above though it does talk about a major player in the Powers to be, yet it's a bit strange that he'd invest his own money into something that is in the infancy stages at that point. I mean there is no guaranteed profit, just a guy trying to find a renewable way to do thing, with a useful energy source that many believe to be completely unsafe if not evil. Also if you know or live in certain regions you'd see the adverse effects of hydro electric dams, I'll give you a random off the top of my head state like hmmmm Arizona.

 

[Neddo]

http://wakeup-world.com/2016/09/04/the-archons-are-cons-borg-consciousness-versus-human-divinity/

What did I just read?

 

[BobK]

This:

 

[Neddo]

http://futureshock2050.com/essays/the-boredom-of-skepticism/

Rationalwiki refuted

 

[Scaff]

http://futureshock2050.com/essays/the-boredom-of-skepticism/

Rationalwiki refuted

Except it doesn't.

Its citations are basically the same old sources of 'oooo New World Order' and i don't agree with you in place of any evidence.

None of which proves the existence of a NWO order, as they like to quote Carl Sagan, let me provide one they missed.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".

The linked article does nothing of the sort and attempts to use self-sourced articles and hearsay and conspiracy rumour in place of proof (including the old standby of Mason = NWO).

To refute rationalwiki what they would need to do is provide independently verifiable proof of the existence of a NWO, as they don't it doesn't refute anything.

 

[Famine]

What did I just read?

I've no idea, as you've neglected to provide any context that would make me want to click that link.

 

[Neddo]

Except it doesn't.

Its citations are basically the same old sources of 'oooo New World Order' and i don't agree with you in place of any evidence.

None of which proves the existence of a NWO order, as they like to quote Carl Sagan, let me provide one they missed.

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".

The linked article does nothing of the sort and attempts to use self-sourced articles and hearsay and conspiracy rumour in place of proof (including the old standby of Mason = NWO).

To refute rationalwiki what they would need to do is provide independently verifiable proof of the existence of a NWO, as they don't it doesn't refute anything.

I hope that you didnt take me seriously.

TBH New World OrderS is much more viable theory because each country wants to be first. It's stupid that USA and UK would share ruling, because before they would ruin each other lol.

I've no idea, as you've neglected to provide any context that would make me want to click that link.

It talks about some wierd stuff, like that Illuminati will ruin themselves, reptilians are good and Lucifer created everything. It also advises us not be sheeple. It also criticises duality in general which I kinda agree with, not everything is so binary. Thats all I could understand.