The Le Mans General Discussion Thread

cnd01
If all the manufacturers are jumping from LMP2 to LMP1, what does that mean for LMP2?
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My answer is from this post...
TheBook
It'll go back to being a mostly-privateer class like it was intended to be from the beginning, most likely.
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That would be the outcome with LMP2 class most likely. Going back to the ways of a privateer class and private teams getting LMP2 cars to fill the class.



Mt. Lynx
Sure, but what I wrote came directly from the GTE rulebook. And that really is all it says about 4WD. Or indeed drive at all, wich technically means FWD is indeed allowed in GTE.

Read it yourself:
http://www.lemans.org/wpphpFichiers/1/1/ressources/Pdf/2013/24-heures-du-mans/regulations/2013-technical-regulations-lm-gte.pdf
To my knowledge, this is the latest iteration of the GTE rules. Notice how the engine rules has changed to accomodate the V8-powered Z4 GTE.
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Interesting read about the GTE rules. I wonder if Nissan and Audi can get the GTR and R8 into the GTE with a RWD conversion to compete.

Hmmm... 💡
 
VspecZR1GT2RS89
would be the outcome with LMP2 class most likely. Going back to the ways of a privateer class and private teams getting LMP2 cars to fill the class.
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Going back though? With the possible exception of Kodewa (Lotus), every recent P2 entry has been a private team with a customer car. There was only that brief period a few years ago of factory backed teams with Porsche and Honda, things have already returned to how they used to be.
 
The P2 rules say you must run an engine based on a manufacturer car. LMP2 will be privateers as it is now. There isn't factory teams. Kodewa's T128 is 'testing the water' and will be based in LMP1 next year. It isn't even a factory team. They're a constructor much like Oreca and HPD. HPD isn't even 'factory' backed.
 
Kodewa is (planning to, at the very least) building the car AND racing it. That is factory backing. It doesn't matter how small the "manufacturer" or "constructor" is, if the same people running the racing team are backed completely by the constructor, it's a "factory effort" or "works effort".
 
NISMO's Next Gear: HQ, GT-R and a Global Motorsports Plan -



GT-R NISMO: "The Lion"/Return to Le Mans in 2014

Skip to 1:48 for Le Mans return.

 
So another Nissan test...I wonder if they learned something from the Delta project that will go toward this next project. Either way I feel that people who talk down about racing, are quickly running out of items to yammer about. CO2 emissions from transport are still going to be there of course, but that usually is only argued by the more studied people and not the mainstream green member. I look forward to this leap in racing with different technologies due to the engineering standpoint of it all.

Also guys, me and my Extraterrestrial pals are building a anti-gravity car for 2016 Le Mans. You heard it here first
 
No it's pretty ballsy Freshseth. All-electric LMP? I'll see it to believe it. The Delta Wing was one thing, but it still was a conventional car when it came to fueling.

I wonder how much juice those chargers will have.
 
Shame it's going to be electric. I'm kind of hoping it doesn't do very well purely because that'll hopefully put other teams off going down that route.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
Also guys, me and my Extraterrestrial pals are building a anti-gravity car for 2016 Le Mans. You heard it here first
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Ha! Try to catch me and my Vulcan co-pilots doing Warp 5 at the Hunaudiéres straight. :lol:
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About the "electric LMP1" or whatever that will be, I'll watch it with much less enthusiasm than I followed the Deltawing. There's something about the IC engine that I love, I'm too rooted in the XXth century I guess.

Besides, this is interesting, but .... meh ... Toyota's been there, done that and I'm not even sure if electric power and electric batteries are the correct / green attitude to go.


 
VspecZR1GT2RS89
Interesting read about the GTE rules. I wonder if Nissan and Audi can get the GTR and R8 into the GTE with a RWD conversion to compete.

Hmmm... 💡
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The GT3 cars are already RWD. No AWD in GT3 allowed. So short answer is "yes". The long answer is that at least Audi looked into it some years ago, but the suspension rules in GTE does not favour the R8. In GT3 they can alter the pick up points for the suspension, something that is forbidden in GTE. Simply put, the R8 has a too short wheelbase to be competitive on track.
A safer bet would be the Gallardo in that aspect.

The GTR was supposed to race at LM under GT1 flag, but the ACO scrapped the class before Nissan could get there. There was talk about "downsizing" a GT1 to GTE, but they still faced the problem with the V8 in the racecar. Something BMW now have resolved. So basically, Nissan could slap in their old GT1 V8 into a GT3 car and get going.
 
Mt. Lynx
The GT3 cars are already RWD. No AWD in GT3 allowed. So short answer is "yes". The long answer is that at least Audi looked into it some years ago, but the suspension rules in GTE does not favour the R8. In GT3 they can alter the pick up points for the suspension, something that is forbidden in GTE. Simply put, the R8 has a too short wheelbase to be competitive on track.
A safer bet would be the Gallardo in that aspect.

The GTR was supposed to race at LM under GT1 flag, but the ACO scrapped the class before Nissan could get there. There was talk about "downsizing" a GT1 to GTE, but they still faced the problem with the V8 in the racecar. Something BMW now have resolved. So basically, Nissan could slap in their old GT1 V8 into a GT3 car and get going.
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If the Viper can get away with a V10 Nissan should be able to get a GTR V8. Having another Japanese make should encourage Toyota perhaps to stay in as well.
 
Furinkazen
If the Viper can get away with a V10 Nissan should be able to get a GTR V8. Having another Japanese make should encourage Toyota perhaps to stay in as well.
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Viper didn't really "get away" with anything. The rule on maximum engine size was only put in place when Vette dropped from GT1 to GTE(2). They should do away with it seeing as how they retracted it for the Viper's engine size. Then Aston can use their V12 Vantage and Vette can jump back to a 6/7 liter V8.
 
freshseth83
Viper didn't really "get away" with anything. The rule on maximum engine size was only put in place when Vette dropped from GT1 to GTE(2). They should do away with it seeing as how they retracted it for the Viper's engine size. Then Aston can use their V12 Vantage and Vette can jump back to a 6/7 liter V8.
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They run the risk of scaring off Porsche and Ferrari
 
Looking at the list, Looks like Dyson is running two different Lolas. I can already tell this won't go well. At Least Muscle Milk finally have a rival that actually will last the whole race and we got ourselves a nice engine battle between the Japanese brands.
 

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