The Le Mans General Discussion Thread

Yeah the Nissan ain't ba....WHAT ON EARTH IS THIS?! o-o
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But both are only half as good as the Aston Martin B09/60 LMP1. :sly:































Get it? Half as good? Straight-6T and V6T have half the cylinders of a V12? Get it? Ge...okay I'll leave now. :lol:
 
Theres questions over the Porsche and Audi rear wing legality! http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/revealed-audi-porsches-le-mans-rear-wing-trick/

It appears as if the questions over them are about the layered nature of the endplates.
Summary of the article in 2 sentences.

"The designs do indeed seem to comply with the letter of the rules."

"A rumour inside the paddock claims that the reason that both Porsche and Audi have the concept at the same time is that staff have gone from one to the other taking information with them."
 
I dont expect the nissan to be anywhere near as bad as the amr one though. If I remember correctly the amr ones top speed was like 290 kph. And its fastest lap ever was 3:44. Nissan already did that at the test. Im sure they end up running low 30s
 
I dont expect the nissan to be anywhere near as bad as the amr one though. If I remember correctly the amr ones top speed was like 290 kph. And its fastest lap ever was 3:44. Nissan already did that at the test. Im sure they end up running low 30s
I fully expect the Nissans to reach 340 kph on the straight.
 
I am really interested to see what the GT-R LM Nismo can do come qualifying next week on low fuel and soft tyres. It is the most fascinating racing car in years and I wish Nissan all the best come Le Mans this year.

What it could be capable of in 2016 with 8MJ and 4WD is the really scary thought...
 
Yes. There are not EXACTLY the same circumstances. But what better comparison exists? Same question I asked before........

And when was the last time an LMP car debuted this slow out of the box?



Do you honestly think Audi, Porsche and Toyota were running at full power too? I'm sure Nissan will find more time, but so will everyone else.

And we're not talking incremental gains making them competitive. This is 20+ seconds! And at a track the car is supposed to be strongest at.......

It's not like this project was just thrown together at the last minute. They are basically transitioning to the development phase right now. Making that transition with a car this slow and so far unreliable suggests the concept is fundamentally flawed. How anyone can possibly think otherwise is based on nothing reasonable.........


I said specifically they weren't at the point of incremental gains, they are still at that point where they will gain huge chunks of time with every session they complete.

And as for whether the other P1 cars were pushing or not, here's a link to a rather intriguing thought from Dailysportscar http://www.dailysportscar.com/2015/06/01/le-mans-test-day-heres-a-thought.html

Basically if you factor in the headwind and green track the cars were facing down the straights on test day, a 5 second loss of time can be found... which looks like the Porsche/Audi/Toyota guys were doing some qualifying-pace laps on their best efforts. It certainly seems like they were pushing the cars early on knowing the weather would disrupt things later on in the day. So again, do you honestly think Nissan were running at their full pace when their stated aim was to get miles on the car and run through their own test program. The laptimes just don't suggest so, especially from what we've seen in the small amount of video evidence of Nissan's testing in the States. In those videos we've seen the car attacking corners, achieving fantastic straight line speeds (which were the only thing confirmed at Le Mans) and generally looking like the car is fast enough to think that they are quicker than a 3.43 at Le Mans.

It was testing, not all teams run the same programs, especially when they are at wildly different stages of development. We will see what the Nissan achieves in qualifying in little over a week's time. All things going to plan, I reckon we'll see them well under 3.25.000... that's a conservative estimate as well as that's about 9-10 seconds slower than the expected fastest time for the other P1 cars.
 
I dont know about 5 seconds from track improvement. Well, not for all the cars. Lmp1 will get faster, but I think 3:17's will be the best they can get. Traffic and weather will play a big part.
 
I dont know about 5 seconds from track improvement. Well, not for all the cars. Lmp1 will get faster, but I think 3:17's will be the best they can get. Traffic and weather will play a big part.

It's a combination of track conditions (so rubber on the track as well as atmospheric conditions) and the headwind that was directly in the drivers face down the main straights. Over a 8.5 mile lap these otherwise more insignificant laptime factors add up. Don't be surprised to see a 3.15... I'm certainly looking forward to seeing one of those Porsches crank it up in the night session when the air is cool and the track is rubbered in...
 
My guess is the Nissan will be around the mid 20s in qualifying spec.

Given the 2MJ and it being a half finished product would bode well.

Anything over 32s would be a disaster unless they are having massive issues with setup etc.
 
I said specifically they weren't at the point of incremental gains, they are still at that point where they will gain huge chunks of time with every session they complete.

And as for whether the other P1 cars were pushing or not, here's a link to a rather intriguing thought from Dailysportscar http://www.dailysportscar.com/2015/06/01/le-mans-test-day-heres-a-thought.html

Basically if you factor in the headwind and green track the cars were facing down the straights on test day, a 5 second loss of time can be found... which looks like the Porsche/Audi/Toyota guys were doing some qualifying-pace laps on their best efforts. It certainly seems like they were pushing the cars early on knowing the weather would disrupt things later on in the day. So again, do you honestly think Nissan were running at their full pace when their stated aim was to get miles on the car and run through their own test program. The laptimes just don't suggest so, especially from what we've seen in the small amount of video evidence of Nissan's testing in the States. In those videos we've seen the car attacking corners, achieving fantastic straight line speeds (which were the only thing confirmed at Le Mans) and generally looking like the car is fast enough to think that they are quicker than a 3.43 at Le Mans.

It was testing, not all teams run the same programs, especially when they are at wildly different stages of development. We will see what the Nissan achieves in qualifying in little over a week's time. All things going to plan, I reckon we'll see them well under 3.25.000... that's a conservative estimate as well as that's about 9-10 seconds slower than the expected fastest time for the other P1 cars.

Bold prediction. We'll find out for sure in 10 days.
 
Humm, rain and dry weather alternating wildly is more epic, imo.

With current standards, they would probably red flag the race in a persistent rain scenario.
Well yeah I do mean the alternating kind of weather. Goes from cloudy, to raining, to cloudy, to sunny, to rain...and so on and so fourth.
 
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