The Le Mans General Discussion Thread

Jav
I hope that's the case! Hoping they drop the Oval infield racing thing! Of course with the exception of Daytona.

Isn't Miami the only other "Roval" they run on? What will this mean for teams like Dempsey who field a car in both series already? So as far as tracks go, how does this sound? Based off both series schedules from this year.

Blue= Current Grand-Am Event
Green= Current ALMS Event
Orange= New Event
Red= Optional Event

1. Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona-January
2. Circuit Of The Americas-February
3. 12 Hours of Sebring-March
4. Long Beach-April
5. 6 Hours of Laguna Seca-May
6. Mid-Ohio-June
24 Hours of Le Mans(Optional)
7. 6 Hours of Watkins Glen- June/July
8. Lime Rock- July
9. Mosport- July
10. Road America- August
11. Infineon-August
12. Petit Le Mans (Road Atlanta)- October
 
What a disaster for ALMS..They must have really had no choice. I think Don Panoz has effectively given up on ALMS. Don't expect the FIA WEC to be joining in on any Grand-Am races including the Daytona 24 anytime soon.
 
You forgot Homestead Miami and Indy.

Indy just has been introduced so I didn't really count it. Miami though you do have a point, I largly tend to forget its on the Grand-Am schedule. Guess I should rephase the post.

What a disaster for ALMS..They must have really had no choice. I think Don Panoz has effectively given up on ALMS. Don't expect the FIA WEC to be joining in on any Grand-Am races including the Daytona 24 anytime soon.

The same FIA that for a while, showed up at Grand-am events and has talked with Grand-Am? Somehow I doubt this, especially since GA Officials showed up at the WEC event at Silverstone.

Also, can I say thanks to you guys for not being the elitist, ignorant pricks that I see on Speedtv.com? "Waaa, The France Family is gonna kill the ALMS" I swear I'm seeing the repeat of the Open Wheel merger from years ago.
 
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Erm, I will freely admit before I get into this post that I don't manage to catch much ALMS or Grand-Am that often but...

Isn't a field consisting of 6 different classes going to be not only confusing but also spreading the competitors a little thin?

ALMS already has five classes, two of which are spec classes. Sebring this year had 9 classes because of the dual ALMS/WEC. Now that I think about it, I agree with Tired Tyres on the GT3, I think the current Grand Am classes should be integrated into ALMS, replacing the spec classes, especially since GT3 cars are legal in Grand-Am GT.
 
I take you didn't notice that the FIA classed them as Wheel Arch extensions?

It has nothing to do with the ACO. They don't make the rules for an FIA series.
 
Am I the only one who thinks the narrator on the Porsche Imsa GT3 cup commercial sounds a tad bit stalkerish?


Was anybody else surprised the ACO didn't come down hard on Toyota for those winglet things at the Silverstone race?

Why would they?
 
Potentially, a merger between both series sounds brilliant. Although the machinery in Grand-Am has gotten better, neither championship is exactly flourishing – particularly ALMS which is in a dire situation with its prototypes and inventing new categories to boost grids.

The prospect of one quality grid at a track like Watkins Glen or Daytona excites me immensely. Personally, I like the two categories of car in Grand-Am. I don’t see why there needs to be more than two categories, any more doesn’t contribute to the spectacle. If there could be a good mixture of prototypes, it would be better than having bare prototype classes.
 
Why would they?

Because it seems to negate the whole reduction of wing span width with those winglets?

And @Tired Tyres: The series may be approved by the FIA, but it's still organized in large part by the ACO. But if the FIA themselves see nothing to it, then kudos to Toyota for doing it. I wonder if Audi will follow suit.
 
Because it seems to negate the whole reduction of wing span width with those winglets?

Not really. If anything, its a clever device that complies in a similar way the endplate boxes on the Audi R8s did back in 2005.
 
I was camping and missed the race and the replay. :(

Anyone have a link to a replay? ALMS.com has the full qualifying, but not the race.
 

Interesting video. "Too sophisticated and too much technology. Yep, that sounds like NASCAR to me." I'm sad that there probably won't be an LMP1 class, but LMP1 is kind of dead anyways. It will be cool to see the GTE cars compete at Daytona in 2014, so that is something I'm definitely looking forward to.
 
Shinshiki
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOoKB1z-FNk">YouTube Link</a>
Interesting video. "Too sophisticated and too much technology. Yep, that&#65279; sounds like NASCAR to me." I'm sad that there probably won't be an LMP1 class, but LMP1 is kind of dead anyways. It will be cool to see the GTE cars compete at Daytona in 2014, so that is something I'm definitely looking forward to.

This would also be a good opportunity to bring the 24 hours of Daytona back onto the international scale. I'm sure Audi and Toyota would make the trip over in a heartbeat. Hell, they could put it on the WEC schedule like Sebring. But nooooooooo. NASCAR needs their money.
 
This would also be a good opportunity to bring the 24 hours of Daytona back onto the international scale. I'm sure Audi and Toyota would make the trip over in a heartbeat. Hell, they could put it on the WEC schedule like Sebring. But nooooooooo. NASCAR needs their money.

Yeah, blame NASCAR and ignore the fact the ACO have already blew off the ALMS by dropping Petit Le Mans from the WEC. The fact Grand-Am is even talking to the ACO and the FIA once again makes the NASCAR argument moot.


Interesting video. "Too sophisticated and too much technology. Yep, that&#65279; sounds like NASCAR to me." I'm sad that there probably won't be an LMP1 class, but LMP1 is kind of dead anyways. It will be cool to see the GTE cars compete at Daytona in 2014, so that is something I'm definitely looking forward to.


There you go. There's only two teams currently even running P1 so it makes about as much sense keeping it as it did keeping a GT class where the only cars in it were two Corvettes and a uncompetitive Saleen S7R.
 
Not having P1 effectively seals off any chance at a WEC/ALMS race at Sebring.

Unless more American teams can afford to run P1, that unfortunately looks like what we'll have to deal with. Thats probably why all the talking is going on with the ACO.
 
Unfourtunately Sebring is no longer a WEC event, not in 2013 not in 2014. The WEC is set to run at COTA in 2013 on the same date as the ALMS but on a completely separate race.
 
Jav
Unfourtunately Sebring is no longer a WEC event, not in 2013 not in 2014. The WEC is set to run at COTA in 2013 on the same date as the ALMS but on a completely separate race.

Source? I don't see that anywhere and even so, I'd rather wait on official word.

If this is true though, this is probably the bad blood being reffered to back at Sebring this year behind the scenes (which just further shows how abusive to the ALMS the ACO is)
 
Source? I don't see that anywhere and even so, I'd rather wait on official word.

If this is true though, this is probably the bad blood being reffered to back at Sebring this year behind the scenes (which just further shows how abusive to the ALMS the ACO is)

Last night's Radio LeMans Podcast. It was pretty good, worth a download! It was more of a mutual agreement no side really liked the 20 separate podiums...
 
Jav
Last night's Radio LeMans Podcast. It was pretty good, worth a download! It was more of a mutual agreement no side really liked the 20 separate podiums...

Mind posting a link for that?

Did just realize how much I'd like to see Brumos and FLM competing together.

Wait no, that's a bad thing. I have to pick a favorite! :scared:
 
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