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wooo hooooo tried your GTR 1.36.722, deffo more to come i just can't get the last third of the track sorted

deffo needs a 6 spd, tried using a 6 spd on your tune for the Ford GT, times are dropping

EDIT DEFFO needs 6 speed
 
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I have been driving your Tuned GT-R on fuji 750PP last few races and it is an awesome car. The only thing like you said is the rear end is a tad light in the corners but by far the best car i have driven on this track, managed a 5:01 total time. I could gain a couple more seconds out of it if i stop getting rammed etc in first corner :) Nice Tune
 
Tomf4i03
I have been driving your Tuned GT-R on fuji 750PP last few races and it is an awesome car. The only thing like you said is the rear end is a tad light in the corners but by far the best car i have driven on this track, managed a 5:01 total time. I could gain a couple more seconds out of it if i stop getting rammed etc in first corner :) Nice Tune
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I assume you mean the Ford GT? That's good to hear, however I'm just about to make it better, by changing the final drive to make it a 6spd gearbox. It's helped me and others shave a second off our lap times.:)

Edit: Ford GT re-updated, once more TLD has one of the best cars available to the market.:)
 
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Just went for a couple of rounds at Fuji with the 599 mate......... a hell of a lot of understeer, makes the car a sitting duck on the tight stuff, and very very hard to get the power down nice and linear like......

sorry, but it is not the car for Fuji i'm afraid.
 
osg
Just went for a couple of rounds at Fuji with the 599 mate......... a hell of a lot of understeer, makes the car a sitting duck on the tight stuff, and very very hard to get the power down nice and linear like......

sorry, but it is not the car for Fuji i'm afraid.
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Says you, who must have been driving Tuned cars all this time.:P In anyone's hands, it's only about 1sec slower than the respective Ford GT time. The reason you were losing is because of all the punters. I make a car that's good, I can't help if people won't be patient with it in the corners and ram it out of the way, because when this car is allowed to do its' thing, it really is fast, and loads of fun.

Edit: Who drives at Fuji anyway?:P
 
nd 4 holden spd
Says you, who must have been driving Tuned cars all this time. In anyone's hands, it's only about 1sec slower than the respective Ford GT time. The reason you were losing is because of all the punters. I make a car that's good, I can't help if people won't be patient with it in the corners and ram it out of the way, because when this car is allowed to do its' thing, it really is fast, and loads of fun.

Edit: Who drives at Fuji anyway?
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So basically, what you're saying is the tune is useless when used by a very experienced racer in an online environment with punters? :P No offence, but a tune should take that into consideration, unless you are tuning for free run only. ;)
 
NLxAROSA
So basically, what you're saying is the tune is useless when used by a very experienced racer in an online environment with punters? :P No offence, but a tune should take that into consideration, unless you are tuning for free run only. ;)
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None taken, the 599 is that sense is useless online full stop.:P If, however, I can manage a podium in it, most people can. The car was re-evaluated after I first took it online to make it more punter friendly, I'm no B-Grade tuner, online racing is one of the testing and evaluating stages.;) (Except the time trial cars of course)
 
nd 4 holden spd
Says you, who must have been driving Tuned cars all this time.:P In anyone's hands, it's only about 1sec slower than the respective Ford GT time. The reason you were losing is because of all the punters. I make a car that's good, I can't help if people won't be patient with it in the corners and ram it out of the way, because when this car is allowed to do its' thing, it really is fast, and loads of fun.

Edit: Who drives at Fuji anyway?:P
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Interesting....... you've seen my times nd4, you know i can drive.:indiff: I'm 3 seconds a lap slower in the 599 than the standard Corvette and the GT tuned by Dutch Customs. (1'43's to flat 1'40's in race conditions).

Anyways, it's not the car for me... i tried again for a bit last night and got a 3rd out of it, solely due to starting at the front and having everyone take eachother out.......

Even then i still got caught and passed in 1st place by a GTR and a Clio like i was standing still from Dunlop through to Netz..... it just simply will not turn in and get the power down efficiently.

Observations......... try to drive your tunes with a Wheel, it becomes a somewhat different kettle of fish than just pushing the analogue knub left and right and pressing X :sly:

My observations and 2c only as always:sly:
 
osg
Interesting....... you've seen my times nd4, you know i can drive.:indiff: I'm 3 seconds a lap slower in the 599 than the standard Corvette and the GT tuned by Dutch Customs. (1'43's to flat 1'40's in race conditions).

Anyways, it's not the car for me... i tried again for a bit last night and got a 3rd out of it, solely due to starting at the front and having everyone take eachother out.......

Even then i still got caught and passed in 1st place by a GTR and a Clio like i was standing still from Dunlop through to Netz..... it just simply will not turn in and get the power down efficiently.

Observations......... try to drive your tunes with a Wheel, it becomes a somewhat different kettle of fish than just pushing the analogue knub left and right and pressing X :sly:

My observations and 2c only as always:sly:
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Hey, I use the triggers for accelerating.:P I know you can drive, but regardless if you were driving Tuned cars the whole time then stepped into a 599 you're going to notice a difference regardless if the tune/car is good or not. I've gotten a 1'39.1 in the 599, and Rennsport has been driving quite well online with it. I'm getting a wheel soon, but I can only see that making it easier.:dopey:
 
In n4hs's defense: the F599 is simply not as fast as the GT and the Vette, as are several other cars. When tuning I picked the GT and Vette more or less at random (meaning: I really like those cars regardless of performance), and they proved to be the fastest RWD's. :D I'm working on a Viper tune and that car too will not be as blazingly fast as the Vette or GT. But these cars are still fun to drive and competitive in the right hands.
 
NLxAROSA
In n4hs's defense: the F599 is simply not as fast as the GT and the Vette, as are several other cars. When tuning I picked the GT and Vette more or less at random (meaning: I really like those cars regardless of performance), and they proved to be the fastest RWD's. :D I'm working on a Viper tune and that car too will not be as blazingly fast as the Vette or GT. But these cars are still fun to drive and competitive in the right hands.
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Not to mention this is truly the first event we can actually use the 599 in at all, let alone competitively. Seize the day.👍
 
NLxAROSA
In n4hs's defense: the F599 is simply not as fast as the GT and the Vette, as are several other cars. When tuning I picked the GT and Vette more or less at random (meaning: I really like those cars regardless of performance), and they proved to be the fastest RWD's. :D I'm working on a Viper tune and that car too will not be as blazingly fast as the Vette or GT. But these cars are still fun to drive and competitive in the right hands.
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no doubt NLx...... no doubt. N4HS knows it wasn't personal, just my observations.
 
osg
no doubt NLx...... no doubt. N4HS knows it wasn't personal, just my observations.
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👍 I rarely tune what I think will be fastest, I tune what I like.:) Just wait until GT5, there will be loads of muscle cars.:P (Of course, there'll be plenty others as well, gotta keep people happy.)
 
I'll give a go at your 599 tune for Fuji, see how it handles compared to mine.

I don't know why people bash this car all the time, it's an awesome car and it handles great if properly set up, you just have to adapt yourself to the car and you'll be fine. 👍
 
Beerz
I'll give a go at your 599 tune for Fuji, see how it handles compared to mine.

I don't know why people bash this car all the time, it's an awesome car and it handles great if properly set up, you just have to adapt yourself to the car and you'll be fine. 👍
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You guys are right about the 599. Its doesnt have the sheer grunt of the Ford GT, nor the brute torque of the Z06, but with a skilled operator, this car will shine. The GT-R, you can just mash the throttle and fly, but in the 599, you have to be baby the throttle. Its archillies heel is the corner exits. It has a tendancy to slide, losing time, but that time is gained back when on the straights. It's a drivers car for sure.
 
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Tried a few of your tunes on Fuji 750pp, both the z06's and the 599 are real nice, but out of them all the regular Z06 is my fave, it's pretty edgy to drive, but that keeps it interesting. Having said that it really does cope well with agressive moves... I'm loving the torque out of corners muahaha!

Only wish for the z06's is to be able to have a higher final drive to make the 6th gear more useful.


Do you any plans to do a tune for the TVR Tuscan?
 
Maffski
Tried a few of your tunes on Fuji 750pp, both the z06's and the 599 are real nice, but out of them all the regular Z06 is my fave, it's pretty edgy to drive, but that keeps it interesting. Having said that it really does cope well with agressive moves... I'm loving the torque out of corners muahaha!

Only wish for the z06's is to be able to have a higher final drive to make the 6th gear more useful.


Do you any plans to do a tune for the TVR Tuscan?
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Thanks for the comments on the Z06. I don't believe I have yet to update the Tuned version, and I'd like to do the Tuscan very soon, maybe once we get some better events to use it in, but we'll see.:)

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I will try and list changes here in this post, if there is no change, I will write that, so if the car you're after is not here, it has not been updated yet, and as such, is not advisable to use.:) Thankyou for your co-operation while I do this long and arduous task.👍

TLD Alfa 147: No changes, bar now on S3 tyres (for a reality check) and has more power through a better exhaust and revised ECU- the car that made me famous is back, and as lethal and versatile as ever.
TLD Amuse/Opera 350Z: Change to final drive gear ratio and power output increased through revised ECU, bigger cam, and head work. Now up to a mean 699 PP, the car of the very popular R3 600 PP era is back to play with the big boys.
TLD Audi R8: Change to final gear ratio and down-tuned engine replaced with beefier engine putting out more power than stock. Despite all the hub-bub about RWD being more controllable (thank the lucky stars above), AWD still has a clean cut traction advantage like it should. Without my tune the R8 is pretty average, with it and it's in another league.
TLD Ferrari 512BB: Change to final drive gear ratio, and kick-ass injected all round. The new-old 512BB had issues with the stock suspension. The body rolled so much that the inside tyre became disconnected with the road. With TLD's trickery the car is surprisingly easy to drive surprisingly aggressive, but don't expect it to be the fastest out there.
TLD Ford Mustang GT: Revised spring rates, final drive, and power outputs, this one remains at 600 PP, and has now been adapted to High Speed Ring. In the HSR time trial event I managed a 1'14.994, less than 2.5sec behind the 1st place NSX. Not bad for an ageing, live rear axle, 5spd tall deck V8 Mustang.;) I challenge someone to use my Mustang and beat my time, I bet it could be done, but I did pretty well. 120th at time of completion, but I'm sure every n00b will grab the NSX sooner or later, so I'll enjoy the glory while it's there.
TLD Jaguar XK Coupe: Revised power output and tyres, new damper settings. I thought long and hard where to put this one (aprox. 6hrs- yeah, a lot), and in the end, there aren't any current events deserving or befitting this car. So I slapped on the best road legal tyres we have, and opened up the taps just for the hell of it. Makes for a pretty fun joyride. If new events come and this one will fit in, I'll put it there.
TLD Lancia Delta HF Integrale: Revisions in power and weight and tyres, spring rates and damper settings, steering angle, Final Drive gear ratio. I love driving this car, but it's never really competitive any where. I tried it in 600 PP Eiger TT, where I could tune the gears short enough to eradicate the problem of a dodgy power curve, and you'd think a small AWD rally hatch would do well there but it can't even beat my 147 time. So I gave it the same treatment as my 147, it's now on road legal tyres, and still runs 500 PP. It's probably more satisfying to drive now though, as it has a better power curve, and feels more realistic than when it had the super grip of R3 tyres.
TLD Mistubishi Evo X: Changes to power and weight, and Final Drive. I converted this one to an Eiger Nordwand Special, seeing the top time is held by one of these in the TT and it seems rather boring anywhere else. Unfortunately I am 3sec off the top time, so maybe someone else can utilise this great tune better than I can.
TLD Ford GT: Too many things changed to list, this is now a Fuji Special. Absolute weapon of a thing, I pulled a low 1'38 in time trial with mistakes. Second race I entered I came 2nd to a skilled JP driver, and 3rd place was another 6sec behind me.
TLD Chevrolet Corvette Z06: Started from scratch and turned out a monster, should fit in on any track. (You all know how I live the Corvette, so you know this'll be a good tune).
TLD Nissan GT-R: Revised power, springs, dampers, rear toe, Final Drive. Fastest car I've tested yet at Fuji, but I'm sure it will still work at Suzuka.
TLD Nissan Skyline Sedan: Started from scratch due to entirely new purpose. I'd be lying if I said I didn't like this car, and it drives pretty well. If you want to use it for HSR, increase front brake balance by 1.
TLD Renault Clio/Tuned: Revised spring rates, power/weight, and gear ratios. Kept it at 700 PP, feel free to open it up and make sure you use wider gears (Final Drive) if you do. At 700 PP it can race Suzuka (Time Trial), and I feel that's where this car's stomping ground should be.
TLD Suzuki Swift Sport: Nothing but power output changed to conform with new PP calculations. The original Showdown vehicle is healthy as ever.
TLD TVR Tamora: I can't remember what I changed now, but it's a fun drive after the update.
 
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I tried the Audi R8 tonight and loved it, you are right there is no way it can let go and allowed even me and my rather meh driving to fair pretty well on Suzuka tonight racing against a fair number of drivers. In a race with 10 people I managed 3rd, which for me on that track is really good.
 
Joey D
I tried the Audi R8 tonight and loved it, you are right there is no way it can let go and allowed even me and my rather meh driving to fair pretty well on Suzuka tonight racing against a fair number of drivers. In a race with 10 people I managed 3rd, which for me on that track is really good.
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Good to hear, glad I could be of help.👍
 
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TLD Jaguar XK Coupe: Revised power output and tyres, new damper settings. I thought long and hard where to put this one (aprox. 6hrs- yeah, a lot), and in the end, there aren't any current events deserving or befitting this car. So I slapped on the best road legal tyres we have, and opened up the taps just for the hell of it. Makes for a pretty fun joyride. If new events come and this one will fit in, I'll put it there.
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You sure about that? Ive always found it to be superb winner for PP600 Daytona Oval. But, its up to you where you tune the car for, lol.
 
hey dude, i have been driving your clio 699pp this afternoon, for about 5 races now, at the suzuka 700pp online race. i am amazed at the handling characteristics. the stability under braking is amazing- i am able to pull off some very aggressive maneuvers at turn entry that would have sent me off the track with my prior setup. i am losing about a second through the t1/t2 section, and pushing a bit under braking at the hairpin. i dont know if i need to adjust the setup, or my strategy, or both. anyway thanks! let me know if you want me to try anything new!

fyi, i got within 3 seconds of my best time within the first 2 or 3 races, and now i am lapping in that range consistently. i know the two areas i mentioned are worth about a second each, so if ican figure those out, and get some more seat time with the setup, i think i can improve my best time.
 
Ardius
You sure about that? Ive always found it to be superb winner for PP600 Daytona Oval. But, its up to you where you tune the car for, lol.
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I thought about that, but did I really want to disrespect the Jaguar XK by tuning it for an oval? No.:P

EL_ZISSOU
hey dude, i have been driving your clio 699pp this afternoon, for about 5 races now, at the suzuka 700pp online race. i am amazed at the handling characteristics. the stability under braking is amazing- i am able to pull off some very aggressive maneuvers at turn entry that would have sent me off the track with my prior setup. i am losing about a second through the t1/t2 section, and pushing a bit under braking at the hairpin. i dont know if i need to adjust the setup, or my strategy, or both. anyway thanks! let me know if you want me to try anything new!

fyi, i got within 3 seconds of my best time within the first 2 or 3 races, and now i am lapping in that range consistently. i know the two areas i mentioned are worth about a second each, so if ican figure those out, and get some more seat time with the setup, i think i can improve my best time.
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Thanks for the review.👍 I make sure to tune my brakes for aggressive corner attacks so you have good stability, but good turn-in also, I'm really glad you noticed that. I must admit though, compared to all my other tunes, that Tune Clio is not as big an improvement over the default settings, but I guess it is a little better.:) If you have a car you want tuned by me, just ask, doing a review means you get a request car.👍
 
Hi there,

I was just curieus and tried some of the TLD settings on a few of my fave cars.
Tried the TLD settings on the tuned 111R and i must say, i'm impressed 👍
Very nice handling and it even got me to a fourth best place on Fuji.
The TLD settings for the Clio V6 are also very good, the mix between acceleration vs topend speed is almost spot on for Suzuka

👍

Grtz

Bryan
 

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