the maclaren days as best performance car are over.
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Some old guy that owns one was interviewed by some magazine, and he didn't care about any of it except for the motor replacement costs. He said he'd use their expensive ass oil because he couldn't afford to pay $200,000+ for a new motor.
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ok according to supercars.net 0-60 for the F1 LM is 2.9 and 0-100 is 6.7. Those are insanely fast times. and the LM was most definitely a 'production' car. only something like 75 F1's were produced, and 5 LM's were produced. now if you look at the ratio of those two numbers, it would be like nissan producing i dunno 10,000 skyline LM's. no one would say thats not a production number.
i don't like the looks of the enzo whereas i think the F1 LM is probably the most beautiful car ever produced.
though for those acceleration times, the gear ratios need to be set up differently, hence the top speed would be reduced to 225mph.
i don't like the looks of the enzo whereas i think the F1 LM is probably the most beautiful car ever produced.
though for those acceleration times, the gear ratios need to be set up differently, hence the top speed would be reduced to 225mph.
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The McLaren F1 LM is NOT a production car. The 5 produced is too limited a number to be classified as such.
The record 0-62mph time was briefly held by the McLaren F1 at 3.2s in 1994, but Graham Hathaway went out 2 weeks later and got it back. Ford RS200 Evo, 0-62mph in 3.06s - still the official world record 0-62mph time for a full production car.
The record 0-62mph time was briefly held by the McLaren F1 at 3.2s in 1994, but Graham Hathaway went out 2 weeks later and got it back. Ford RS200 Evo, 0-62mph in 3.06s - still the official world record 0-62mph time for a full production car.
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Originally posted by Josh
Some old guy that owns one was interviewed by some magazine, and he didn't care about any of it except for the motor replacement costs. He said he'd use their expensive ass oil because he couldn't afford to pay $200,000+ for a new motor.
Edit: Thanks, Sage.
I mean he won't care how much it costs to maintain it cause that guy's rich!
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I prefer the regular F1 to the F1 LM. There's just someting about that big ass spoiler that wrecks the look..
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The Tiger Z-1. Two 1.3i bike engines, mated to two gearboxes and a split gearshift, allowing you to shift each engine seperately, or both together. The car is based on a Lotus Seven type chassis & body.
It's not a production car as yet, but yes, has done a 2.8s 0-62mph time. The RS200 Evo still stands as the quickest accelerating production car. And with 650hp on an 1100kg body, mid-engine, 4WD, why not?
It's not a production car as yet, but yes, has done a 2.8s 0-62mph time. The RS200 Evo still stands as the quickest accelerating production car. And with 650hp on an 1100kg body, mid-engine, 4WD, why not?
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I like the design of the enzo. The formula 1 look is indeed awsome.
68 hemi cudas and darts had better 0-60 times.
probably better 0-100 times as well.
they wre factory, came right from the factory and ran mid 10's in the quarter mile at over 135 mph.
im not sure what kind of 0-60 time that is, but any car that runs mid 10's has a better 0-60 than a car with mid 11's.
they had 650+ hp and were not reccomended for use on public roads.
i could find a link for you if you want.
anyways, mclaren is better than the enzo. the enzo tops out at like 205 mph, thats crap, the mclaren would own it at anything past 140. it gets better mileage too, about 14, instead of 11 for the enzo.
probably better 0-100 times as well.
they wre factory, came right from the factory and ran mid 10's in the quarter mile at over 135 mph.
im not sure what kind of 0-60 time that is, but any car that runs mid 10's has a better 0-60 than a car with mid 11's.
they had 650+ hp and were not reccomended for use on public roads.
i could find a link for you if you want.
anyways, mclaren is better than the enzo. the enzo tops out at like 205 mph, thats crap, the mclaren would own it at anything past 140. it gets better mileage too, about 14, instead of 11 for the enzo.
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bwahahahahahahahaha!
Famine:
you are only disputing the fact that the LM is a production car because you love the ford so much!
which is ok, however to be honest i don't think the F50, F1, F1LM, OR the enzo are really production cars...in my opinion a production car is one that doesn't specify a 'limited range' before production begins. so at any point (in a period of time longer than a week) you can walk into a shop, lay your moneys down and expect to see that car after they have built it. the F40 was like this, so its a production car, so is the Porsche gt3 and 996 turbo. Even RUFs are like that so they are production cars. if you try to define it any other way you get this dispute between a mclaren with 75 models made being a production car, but an edition with only 5 made isn't...
anyone else agree with me?
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Actually, I'm not disputing anything. The Guinness Book of Records does not recognise the car as a "production car", hence the RS200 Evo holds the record.
Contrary to popular belief, the RS200 didn't have a 200-limited production run either. They stopped making them at about number 220 because GpB rallying was banned and they couldn't sell the ones they DID have to customers.
Contrary to popular belief, the RS200 didn't have a 200-limited production run either. They stopped making them at about number 220 because GpB rallying was banned and they couldn't sell the ones they DID have to customers.
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fair enough, why couldn't they sell them though? did they cost too much?
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There's something about a car killing one driver, one co-driver and 7 spectators that just outs people off... Can't quite put my finger on why though...
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veyron is crap, v16 4 turbos= 1000hp?Originally posted by Shannon
The Bugatti Veyron 16/4 is a better performer than the Enzo. It want to be to with 746kW stock!
you can hit 1000 horses twin turbo-ing a viper, and boogerati takes them 6 more cylinders and 2 more turbos? personally i think bugatti is crap specially with oil prices these days i wonder how much gas the POS guzzles.
overall enzo is ****en awesome, just watch the video where tiff test drives it, you should also look up the pagani c12 vs lambo murcielago(spelling). i love the 7.3 liter engine made by benz for this car!
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i love the benz 7.3 litre too. don't like the look of the zonda but i dislike the enzo even more.
saw the koeniggsegg on tv last night, and it looks sweet, those doors!! (drool)
saw the koeniggsegg on tv last night, and it looks sweet, those doors!! (drool)
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Only 4 F1 LM's exist in the world today...
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how come? did you steal one and smash it ?
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That's what I keep hearing. I dunno, maybe there is 5. Then again, maybe not. Or maybe it just exists in another dimension. They could have disassembled one. Crap, look what you have started, I'll be ranting the rest of the night 
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hehehehe yeah
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I can see why. I downloaded a video off of Kazaa with an Audi. He is driving so freaking fast and spectators are only feet away. If you want to download it and you have kazaa look for my name, WRC_Freak and look for the file "Go Go WRC"...
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There was recently a mas of articles in the car mags here in the UK about the performance of the Enzo, all recorded at Fiorano (Ferraris own test track) with a factory test driver at the wheel (what a job 
). Despite all this the Enzo could not match the Mclaren F1 on acceleration times all the journalists in the mags I read found similar results.
Ferrari claimed they were not trying to 'beat' the F1 yeh right
I'll still take one in yellow tho please
). Despite all this the Enzo could not match the Mclaren F1 on acceleration times all the journalists in the mags I read found similar results.Ferrari claimed they were not trying to 'beat' the F1 yeh right
I'll still take one in yellow tho please
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Well R&T tested it and with the same equipment they used to test the F1 the Enzo was .1 seconds faster in acceleration...
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