The non-muscle American car thread (READ THE OP)

[The87Dodge]

You should stop telling mods how to do their jobs.

I'm not. Perhaps you should reread my post, because I'm just telling them that the arguments above were your fault.

Argumuent over.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

It's TexRex and TS040 you need to tell this to, not me. They started the flamewars and they were the ones who decided to turn a debate into a large arguement. And TS040 should already get warning points for his smartmouth comments like "AHAHAHAHA SHUT UP" and "Oh sorry, dad.".

I'm going to make this very clear: you do not get to tell members of staff how to do their duties. Doubly so when you've repeatedly broken the AUP in this very thread.

This ends now. It's not up for discussion.

 

[Aki Ko]

Can we all just calm down?

Panoz Esperante Convertable. I've always thought these were absolutely beautiful cars.
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Doesn't Gran Turismo (whatever version) have the racing version of this car but not the road legal version of any variant?

 

[Razor440]

Double post -_-

I love this car. Panoz GTR-1, while we're at it.

Here's the Visteon Racing car.

 

[TexRex]

Doesn't Gran Turismo (whatever version) have the racing version of this car but not the road legal of any version?

I'm not an authority, but to call the Esperante GTR-1 the racing version of the Esperante road car might be a stretch.

Edit: Broken image and tree'd.

 

[The87Dodge]

Double post -_-

I love this car. Panoz GTR-1, while we're at it.

Here's the Visteon Racing car.

I never knew they made the Panoz in TVR purple until now.

 

[Aki Ko]

I'm not an authority, but to call the Esperante GTR-1 the racing version of the Esperante road car might be a stretch.

I'll be honest, I'm not up to par regarding American cars. That's why I asked.

 

[Razor440]

Doesn't Gran Turismo (whatever version) have the racing version of this car but not the road legal version of any variant?

Yep! Visteon Racing Panoz Esperante GTR-1, debuted in Gran Turismo 3 A-spec.

 

[TexRex]

In the way that NASCAR platforms are racing versions of their respective production models.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Compared to all the other performance cars you could've bought, ultra does apply. It has more horsepower than:

1st generation ford Taurus SHO
Chevrolet Beretta Z34, which was Chevrolet's highest performance car besides the Camaro and Corvette.
Most Mustangs
Most Camaros
BMW M3 E30
Most Audis
Basically all Chevrolet and Ford cars besides the Corvette, Camaro, and Mustang.

Few American cars back in the day performed better than the Spirit R/T.

...no GMC Typhoon and Syclone end of story. And those weren't "ultra", your name clearly proves the issue here.

 

[The87Dodge]

...no GMC Typhoon and Cyclone end of story. And those weren't "ultra" your name clearly proves the issue here.

I only mentioned cars, because of the weight difference.

 

[TexRex]

Since shoebox Fords are up for Cool Wall voting, howsabout a shoebox Lincoln?

 

[The87Dodge]

Since shoebox Fords are up for Cool Wall voting, howsabout a shoebox Lincoln?

Just curious, what do you mean by "shoebox"?

 

[TexRex]

Just curious, what do you mean by "shoebox"?

The term refers, primarily, to Ford cars produced for the '49-54 model years, stemming from their shoebox appearance when viewed from above, an evolution from their fenders-outside-the-bodyshell predecessors. Because of this definition, though, the term is frequently used for non-Ford vehicles that had just undergone the same evolution.

Edit: Here's a '48 Ford for comparison:

 

[The87Dodge]

The term refers, primarily, to Ford cars produced for the '49-54 model years, stemming from their shoebox appearance when viewed from above, an evolution from their fenders-outside-the-bodyshell predecessors. Because of this definition, though, the term is frequently used for non-Ford vehicles that had just undergone the same evolution.

Edit: Here's a '48 Ford for comparison:

Got it now.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I only mentioned cars, because of the weight difference.

Makes no sense.

 

[VXR]

I only mentioned cars, because of the weight difference.

Earlier on you made the statement that weight doesn't make much difference, but horsepower does. Which one is it? I don't know why you're so abrasive, but you've soured my GTP experience tonight just from being so wrong and then having the audacity to try and hide behind moderators. Man up.

 

[Cowboy]

The Plymouth Howler concept. Essentially a truck version of the Prowler.

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I'm actually ok with it.

 

[Razor440]

The Plymouth Howler concept. Essentially a truck version of the Prowler.

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I'm actually ok with it.

I could see this being a production vehicle. Of course it would be Australia only thanks to the fact that automakers love to sell cool cars that can't be sold in the US.

 

[TexRex]

This thing was all kinds of ugly...

 

[Razor440]

This thing was all kinds of ugly...

And was a disgrace to the Packard name. Thing is, you lower a 53 Packard a few inches or stick a V8 in one...

...and the Packard clubs get all upset. That monstrosity of a concept car however, is considered a good car by those people. Strange.

 

[Razor440]

I really want to do a mild bosozoku treatment to one of these.

Like this.

 

[Heldenzeit]

These last two pages were entertaining haha.

I love big Caddy's.

and other Ambulance type vehicles based off of wagon/sedan chassis.

 

[lxmmy]

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

 

[Razor440]

These last two pages were entertaining haha.

I love big Caddy's.

Ah! That's a screenshot from the 1974 movie Gone In 60 Seconds. Go figure, tons of cars wrecked in that movie. Some eligible for posting here!

 

[Razor440]

Well...that's a racing version of a Fox body Mustang...but honest, is this really a muscle car when it looks like a big Escort?

No

 

[Cowboy]

Ah! That's a screenshot from the 1974 movie Gone In 60 Seconds. Go figure, tons of cars wrecked in that movie. Some eligible for posting here!

Well...that's a racing version of a Fox body Mustang...but honest, is this really a muscle car when it looks like a big Escort?

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No

Just a friendly tip, use the edit button to help avoid double-posting (or try +Quote to reply to multiple posts)


How about something a little different:

Spoiler: Trucks!

 

[Sage Ages]

...but honest, is this really a muscle car when it looks like a big Escort?

Yes, it is.