- 47
- Portugal
To set the mood for sunday, I share a song from my childhood.
Because all we want is to be...
BiG IN JAPAN
Because all we want is to be...
BiG IN JAPAN
The PC2 World Classic SeriesPS4
- Thread starter Hun200kmh
- 102 comments
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- 47
- Portugal
Race delayed, due to adverse weather conditions. New starting time 22:00 GMT.
For the record, the qualifying session times
For the record, the qualifying session times
- 7,155
- Lisboa
- FLAT_TWELVE
Ricardo ruled it today! 
He was the fastest (made pole position once again), was unlucky at the start but in the second half of the race, when a strategic mind became needed, he was the one that made the right call! And he won, a very deserved win!
Can't post times (Ricardo can you post the pictures you took please, so half can do the scoring table) but here's the results:
1. GTP_RPREGO
2. Hun200kmh
3. FLAT_TWELVE
4. PANDACoff33
5. jmpa (DQ - pitlane speeding)
6. raeggee (DNF - pit crew error)
@half_sourly not sure how DQs and DNFs are usually treated (in the Monday's group) and I didn't think about this, so please do the scoring as you normally would in any Monday series and that becomes the rule. Many thanks!
He was the fastest (made pole position once again), was unlucky at the start but in the second half of the race, when a strategic mind became needed, he was the one that made the right call! And he won, a very deserved win!
Can't post times (Ricardo can you post the pictures you took please, so half can do the scoring table) but here's the results:
1. GTP_RPREGO
2. Hun200kmh
3. FLAT_TWELVE
4. PANDACoff33
5. jmpa (DQ - pitlane speeding)
6. raeggee (DNF - pit crew error)
@half_sourly not sure how DQs and DNFs are usually treated (in the Monday's group) and I didn't think about this, so please do the scoring as you normally would in any Monday series and that becomes the rule. Many thanks!
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- 47
- Portugal
Hello!
It was indeed a fantastic race. I tested quite a bit beforehand and managed to find a very fast setup, though still quite balanced in dry and wet. A special hint - front anti-roll bar can be adjusted in real-time....
So, I was able to get pole position with a cannon lap, without slipstream! But with a kleenex engine, it would overheat so quickly.
The race - hit from behind at the start! Then I had to overtake all the AIs, but I was 20secs behind Mario and Duarte.
When the first rain alert came I switched to wets and then I started gaining time to the guys ahead. I think they cooked their tires more than I did. So, when they stopped again for slicks, I became P1 and never lost it again, as they had to pit again for wets.
Not making mistakes was critical, Mario and Duarte are "killer white sharks" that smell blood from far away....
A very sweet victory for the books! Below is the final timesheet.
Really enjoying this series, count me in Mario for the Texas Nascar race!
Best wishes
Ricardo Prego
It was indeed a fantastic race. I tested quite a bit beforehand and managed to find a very fast setup, though still quite balanced in dry and wet. A special hint - front anti-roll bar can be adjusted in real-time....
So, I was able to get pole position with a cannon lap, without slipstream! But with a kleenex engine, it would overheat so quickly.
The race - hit from behind at the start! Then I had to overtake all the AIs, but I was 20secs behind Mario and Duarte.
When the first rain alert came I switched to wets and then I started gaining time to the guys ahead. I think they cooked their tires more than I did. So, when they stopped again for slicks, I became P1 and never lost it again, as they had to pit again for wets.
Not making mistakes was critical, Mario and Duarte are "killer white sharks" that smell blood from far away....
A very sweet victory for the books! Below is the final timesheet.
Really enjoying this series, count me in Mario for the Texas Nascar race!
Best wishes
Ricardo Prego
- 165
- Lisbon
- GTP_Madbigdog
This event was a lot of fun! Here's the rundown on how it happened from my point of view.
Qualifying was messy, I set a slow time on a first, and later when I was gunning for pole I got impeded in the last sector. Also, adding insult to injury, on the last turn I had to do a very wide entry because of the impeding car and, somehow, the current and next laps were canceled then and there due to track limits... This meant I couldn't do more laps and so, the slower lap held. Still it was good for 4th place, which isn't that bad at all.
Then the Race was fun! I had a strong start, got mixed in a cool fight with @Hun200kmh for the lead in the first two to three laps, came out on top and then settled in 1st place.
Rain came and we all went in for wets. I think I was the last to do it, lost a bit of time as the last sector on the in-lap it was quite wet, and then I activated the pit speed limiter way earlier than needed... All that summed up meant I got out of the pits just in front of @Hun200kmh.
I think I had the edge on pace on both full wet and full dry conditions, albeit a very small edge, but on the cross-over conditions I was just completely off the pace. This meant that when the track was drying up, @Hun200kmh got by me and @GTP_RPREGO was catching very quickly.
When the track was good enough for slicks there were 20 minutes left in the race, so I contemplated not pitting and taking it to the end on the wet, which I assumed would be the opposite strategy to @Hun200kmh, and the one @GTP_RPREGO was going for. So I had a decision to make, either I keep the wets and try to hold off @GTP_RPREGO or I pit for slicks and hope the weather holds.
Since the pace difference was so big, I figured I wouldn't be able to hold off @GTP_RPREGO on the wets in the dry, so I decided to bet on the weather holding and taking advantage of fresh rubber and low fuel to set some qualy laps and hunt @GTP_RPREGO. Both options were big mountains to climb, but I figured this one was my best shot.
As expected, myself and @Hun200kmh went in for slicks and @GTP_RPREGO stayed out. After a quick and, again, very fun battle with @Hun200kmh after the pits, I settled in second and set my sights on @GTP_RPREGO. Shortly after this the radio call comes in: "We are expecting a major downpour in the next few minutes".
I don't think I would've been able to catch 1st place if it stayed dry, but when that message came through, that's when I was sure 2nd was the best result to be had. Myself and @Hun200kmh stopped for new wets and by the time we got out of the pits there were 6 minutes left on the clock and a gap to the leader of over 1 minute.
Congrats to @GTP_RPREGO, on a great and fully deserved win! I hope I can rise to your level next time!
Thanks @Hun200kmh for organising, already looking forward to the next one!
Cheers all!
Qualifying was messy, I set a slow time on a first, and later when I was gunning for pole I got impeded in the last sector. Also, adding insult to injury, on the last turn I had to do a very wide entry because of the impeding car and, somehow, the current and next laps were canceled then and there due to track limits... This meant I couldn't do more laps and so, the slower lap held. Still it was good for 4th place, which isn't that bad at all.
Then the Race was fun! I had a strong start, got mixed in a cool fight with @Hun200kmh for the lead in the first two to three laps, came out on top and then settled in 1st place.
Rain came and we all went in for wets. I think I was the last to do it, lost a bit of time as the last sector on the in-lap it was quite wet, and then I activated the pit speed limiter way earlier than needed... All that summed up meant I got out of the pits just in front of @Hun200kmh.
I think I had the edge on pace on both full wet and full dry conditions, albeit a very small edge, but on the cross-over conditions I was just completely off the pace. This meant that when the track was drying up, @Hun200kmh got by me and @GTP_RPREGO was catching very quickly.
When the track was good enough for slicks there were 20 minutes left in the race, so I contemplated not pitting and taking it to the end on the wet, which I assumed would be the opposite strategy to @Hun200kmh, and the one @GTP_RPREGO was going for. So I had a decision to make, either I keep the wets and try to hold off @GTP_RPREGO or I pit for slicks and hope the weather holds.
Since the pace difference was so big, I figured I wouldn't be able to hold off @GTP_RPREGO on the wets in the dry, so I decided to bet on the weather holding and taking advantage of fresh rubber and low fuel to set some qualy laps and hunt @GTP_RPREGO. Both options were big mountains to climb, but I figured this one was my best shot.
As expected, myself and @Hun200kmh went in for slicks and @GTP_RPREGO stayed out. After a quick and, again, very fun battle with @Hun200kmh after the pits, I settled in second and set my sights on @GTP_RPREGO. Shortly after this the radio call comes in: "We are expecting a major downpour in the next few minutes".
I don't think I would've been able to catch 1st place if it stayed dry, but when that message came through, that's when I was sure 2nd was the best result to be had. Myself and @Hun200kmh stopped for new wets and by the time we got out of the pits there were 6 minutes left on the clock and a gap to the leader of over 1 minute.
Congrats to @GTP_RPREGO, on a great and fully deserved win! I hope I can rise to your level next time!
Thanks @Hun200kmh for organising, already looking forward to the next one!
Cheers all!
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- 7,155
- Lisboa
- FLAT_TWELVE
Nascar? Never crossed my mind, when I designed the championship I was thinking solely Classic Formula, GT and Prototype cars. So this was supposed to be a 1990's IMSA GTO race around the Texas Road Course.
But it isn't actually a bad idea to convert it into a NASCAR event, using the oval and limiting the GTOs to the "Nascar" car.
Still, I do like the GTO cars since @Zolon32 's GTE-to-GTO championship.
Have to ponder, if anyone wants to share an opinion, all are welcome.
- 6,433
- Shropshire
- IfAndOr
Apologies @Hun200kmh, I didn't get back in time to race. And also apologies that I didn't get back in time to tell you I wasn't going to get back in time.
(Although I see it maybe ran somewhat late?)
Well done @GTP_RPREGO
(Although I see it maybe ran somewhat late?)
Well done @GTP_RPREGO
- 7,155
- Lisboa
- FLAT_TWELVE
Yeah ... we ran into some problems that delayed the start of the race, and for @PANDACoff33 this meant he would be unable to complete the full race. So, we all agreed to do a "sprint" race for fun (30 minutes) and reconvened at 10 PM to do the "event" race.
Btw, and speaking of non-championship races, just a reminder that we are going to do Le Mans again next Sunday, and again we are thinking about doing the race after watching the (British) F1 Grand Prix, so at about 4 PM.
Same settings as last time so anyone interested just has to check the previous page of this thread. But for you all lazy persons
I'll make it easy to find: It's all
Btw, and speaking of non-championship races, just a reminder that we are going to do Le Mans again next Sunday, and again we are thinking about doing the race after watching the (British) F1 Grand Prix, so at about 4 PM.
Same settings as last time so anyone interested just has to check the previous page of this thread. But for you all lazy persons
I'll make it easy to find: It's all-----> HERE < -----
- 1,966
- United Kingdom
- half_sourly
Standings after round 4:
- 47
- Portugal
Hello!
Thank you @half_sourly for scoring. Regarding DNFs, in my opinion DNFs/DQs should also score, as long as they actually start the race.
@Hun200kmh count me in for the "Le Mans hors-championnat" on sunday. It will be in the aftermath of the PORTUGAL vs. FRANCE Euro 2024 match, lots of stuff to chat about 😉
Regarding the Texas race, it can be lots of fun both in oval or infield setup. If you want to play "weather wizard", then the infield version may suit better.
Thank you @half_sourly for scoring. Regarding DNFs, in my opinion DNFs/DQs should also score, as long as they actually start the race.
@Hun200kmh count me in for the "Le Mans hors-championnat" on sunday. It will be in the aftermath of the PORTUGAL vs. FRANCE Euro 2024 match, lots of stuff to chat about 😉
Regarding the Texas race, it can be lots of fun both in oval or infield setup. If you want to play "weather wizard", then the infield version may suit better.
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- half_sourly
It's not my series. I'll score in whatever way @Hun200kmh wants me to.
@Hun200kmh how do you want me to deal with DNF and DQ?
My view is in real life they don't score.
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- 6,433
- Shropshire
- IfAndOr
Again, not my series, but since you have penalties, mechanical wear and pit crew errors activated, which all could end a race, they should count for something. Makes it realistic. In the above cases a pit lane speeding DQ and whatever Raeggee succumbed to in the pits.
The exception I'd probably allow for are disconnections, which are out of the players control and not true to real life racing. Treat it as they limped past the line in last place sort of thing.
Just my few pence worth. 🙂 Again over to @Hun200kmh
One word about Texas, it's not the most optimised of tracks, often a bit juddery. Especially with weather and time changes. Give it a go and see what you think.
The exception I'd probably allow for are disconnections, which are out of the players control and not true to real life racing. Treat it as they limped past the line in last place sort of thing.
Just my few pence worth. 🙂 Again over to @Hun200kmh
One word about Texas, it's not the most optimised of tracks, often a bit juddery. Especially with weather and time changes. Give it a go and see what you think.
- 7,155
- Lisboa
- FLAT_TWELVE
@GTP_RPREGO @half_sourly @IfAndOr thank you for your input on this matter. I asked @half_sourly to use the same standards the monday group has been using, I assume that's what he did so a DNF is a DNF and a DQ is a DQ, I am perfectly ok with no points being awarded.
@IfAndOr I also understand your point about internet-caused disconnects, but then again, it's the same as an electrical failure in real racing. It may happen, and I am sure that in the monday's series a disconnect meant no points (what I wasn't sure was the DQ and DNF consequences).
That said, and as always, a disconnect at race start is and will always be treated as a red flag, with the race being restarted. After that ... the show (race) will go on.
...
Now, about the series. I am really enjoying it, even if it sometimes feels like I'm doing a "farewell tour", using all classics in all major or iconic circuits available.
The only thing less nice about all this old project of mine is the fact that I left it in the shelf for too long. Maybe it was the fact that Paul and Zolon kept us fully entertained with various great series, so this ... "thing" ... seemed a bit too much to add to our weekly schedule. The consequence is that many I would have liked to see taking part are now gone to other pastures.
Anyway, "chinning up", and speaking of iconic circuits, it is funny that a Le Mans repeat was requested by those that didn't have the oportunity to show up in the Series race, and it is also interesting that those that did take part look forward to doing it again.
And that's what we will have in this off-season weekend. No need to practise much, we've been there already!
....
finally, the Texas race. I am VERY divided between GTO - Road Course or NASCAR - Oval Course.
Close racing, NASCAR style, is possible, as proved by this 3-year old video of myself and Ricardo, captured even before I met the monday's group.
Granted, it is Daytona, not Texas. And Daytona also figures in this series (how could it not). It's in fact the race after Texas, using an historic setting and cars from the 1967 Ferrari's revenge on the Ford-Le Mans humiliation a few months before.
So, here's what I'm thinking ... to keep Texas as a GTO class race using the Road Course, but to also add a NASCAR race to the roster. That race would be at Daytona Oval Course and the cars to be used would be the GTO Nascar cars (single make race).
So that's a 19th race for this series. Its calendar placement TBD (meaning I have no idea ...
)
And ... brace yourselves ... since we're doing an "Hommage" to everything in the realm of classic motorsports, I wouldn't like this series to leave out one of the major events in the history of racing. So I am working on a way to include, with the possible realism within the constraints of this game ...
le Col du Turini!
@IfAndOr I also understand your point about internet-caused disconnects, but then again, it's the same as an electrical failure in real racing. It may happen, and I am sure that in the monday's series a disconnect meant no points (what I wasn't sure was the DQ and DNF consequences).
That said, and as always, a disconnect at race start is and will always be treated as a red flag, with the race being restarted. After that ... the show (race) will go on.
...
Now, about the series. I am really enjoying it, even if it sometimes feels like I'm doing a "farewell tour", using all classics in all major or iconic circuits available.
The only thing less nice about all this old project of mine is the fact that I left it in the shelf for too long. Maybe it was the fact that Paul and Zolon kept us fully entertained with various great series, so this ... "thing" ... seemed a bit too much to add to our weekly schedule. The consequence is that many I would have liked to see taking part are now gone to other pastures.
Anyway, "chinning up", and speaking of iconic circuits, it is funny that a Le Mans repeat was requested by those that didn't have the oportunity to show up in the Series race, and it is also interesting that those that did take part look forward to doing it again.
And that's what we will have in this off-season weekend. No need to practise much, we've been there already!
....
finally, the Texas race. I am VERY divided between GTO - Road Course or NASCAR - Oval Course.
Close racing, NASCAR style, is possible, as proved by this 3-year old video of myself and Ricardo, captured even before I met the monday's group.
Granted, it is Daytona, not Texas. And Daytona also figures in this series (how could it not). It's in fact the race after Texas, using an historic setting and cars from the 1967 Ferrari's revenge on the Ford-Le Mans humiliation a few months before.
So, here's what I'm thinking ... to keep Texas as a GTO class race using the Road Course, but to also add a NASCAR race to the roster. That race would be at Daytona Oval Course and the cars to be used would be the GTO Nascar cars (single make race).
So that's a 19th race for this series. Its calendar placement TBD (meaning I have no idea ...
)And ... brace yourselves ... since we're doing an "Hommage" to everything in the realm of classic motorsports, I wouldn't like this series to leave out one of the major events in the history of racing. So I am working on a way to include, with the possible realism within the constraints of this game ...
le Col du Turini!
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