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Because Ξ/ξ is pronounced ksee (as in eksellent or taksi) and everyone will get it wrong. It's not a zuh or zshuh sound.

I am 100% convinced that not enough speakers would either know or remember that. It being transliterated as xi is very misleading; "What other words start with X? Xylophone? Xanadu? Oh okay so it must be zee or zshee."

Well...

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Even "zylophone" is wrong. It is also written with Ξ/ξ because ksylos is the Greek word for wood.
This is actually a pretty good explanation and does make sense.
 
I was being flippant because Xi is just the worst letter, but I can see how you interpreted that to be a factual statement. So my bad on that one.

Interesting reference. Nu was not skipped because it's hard to pronounce though, according to your article. It was skipped for clarity, which is very similar to the reason given for Xi (not causing offense). Xi is also hard to pronounce and there is much disagreement on how to pronounce it. I've had at least half a dozen discussions in my lifetime about how to pronounce Xi.

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Danoff is happy they skipped Xi because it's the worst.
 
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Xi is also hard to pronounce and there is much disagreement on how to pronounce it. I've had at least half a dozen discussions in my lifetime about how to pronounce Xi.
Ξ/ξ is ksee. Not kuh-see with a deliberate pause, not ek-see like it starts with an ex-prefix, just ksee. Taxi without the ta-. It's really, really not that difficult.

Just wait for the psi (Ψ) variant. The English prefix psy-. In Greek you actually pronounce the 'silent' P...
 
Just wait for the psi (Ψ) variant. The English prefix psy-. In Greek you actually pronounce the 'silent' P...
Reminds me of Rupert Psmith, a character created by PG Wodehouse who could tell if you didn't pronounce the silent P.
 
Ξ/ξ is ksee. Not kuh-see with a deliberate pause, not ek-see like it starts with an ex-prefix, just ksee. Taxi without the ta-. It's really, really not that difficult.

Just wait for the psi (Ψ) variant. The English prefix psy-. In Greek you actually pronounce the 'silent' P...
I've had at least half a dozen discussions in my lifetime about how to pronounce Xi.
Half a dozen and one.

They'll skip Nu, because it's pronounced "new" (like Mu is pronounced Mew) and people will get too easily confused by the new nu variant.

Also "xi" will be "chi" or "x". It's written as an X in Greek but literally transcribed as Chi (chee) - it was written as Xi in some dialects but not particularly widespread and the standard Ionic alphabet used the X/x alone.

That would be the "correct"/Greek pronunciation, but I wouldn't be surprised if we hear/get 'English' pronunciations, such as phi, psi and chi all rhyming with "high"... (figh, sigh and kai)

I'd always heard it "ksee" by my college professors.

But then this website says "ksaai"
I've heard chee, chai, ksee, and ksai, most of which were from college professors, but most of my professors settled on ksee. I think some of them struggled with the k-s adjacent sounds.

I have not seen psi cause as much confusion, even though it was far more widely used (because it's easier to write on a chalkboard).
 
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Half a dozen and one.
I forgot Ξ existed. Whenever I think of "X" in Greek I think of "Χ", which is chi, and which supplanted Ξ for long enough to form the basis of the Latin X, pronounced as... kinda "zi", and the Cyrillic X with a more "ch" sound...
 
I forgot Ξ existed. Whenever I think of "X" in Greek I think of "Χ", which is chi, and which supplanted Ξ for long enough to form the basis of the Latin X, pronounced as... kinda "zi", and the Cyrillic X with a more "ch" sound...
The Greek Χ/χ is why Xmas is called Xmas. χ is the first letter of Christ in Greek, the language that gave him that particular name; Χριστος ('Christos' with the Ch being a loch sound).

Anyone who tells you that Xmas takes the Christ out of Christmas is wrong.
 
Wait what? the US still has polio???

I should look it up, but i'm under the impression that (western) Europe is polio free.
 
Get me a good anagram with kappa, epsilon, iota and all the other variants in between. Please. I'd love to see how creative one could be.
 
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