The silence of PD in the last days

[BossBattle]

No, the RE 7 is the holy grail of 7's . IF there was a 0 miles Spirit and a 0 miles RE the RE would command more, Thats like saying a zero miles vanila Mustang would cost less than a 0 miles Shelby mustang . the shelby mustang is modified but still commands $$$. The body kit alone is like 30,000$

I’m not sure. A super low mileage Spirit R would probably sell for at least a couple hundred thousand in this market. GT7 is actually fairly close.

I’m not seeing that for a RE-A car. There is a guy who was trying to sell an official RE-A car stateside for about $45K. I think you can technically get an official RE-A car built now if you had enough money. Meanwhile, they only made 1500 Spirit Rs.

Now if we’re talking the RE car that was used in best motoring then sure. That car is probably priceless. A lot of people made official clones though.’

 

[jergto]

New cars?! The entitlement...
Getting new cars to the franchise would require money. PD wants to shake people down for money, not spend it improving their outdated franchise! lol

lol exactly!

 

[rAtey]

The MTX are Sony's doing that is obvious...

However outside of that the game has many other issues that still haven't been addressed.

I reckon PD are in panic mode right now and are frantically trying to find ways to save face. The game is getting review destroyed right now so they need to do something spectacular very soon or the game will die a very quick death.

Most people have short attention spans these days and won't hang around waiting for updates if a game doesn't do it for them, they will just find something else to play...

It's completely not obvious though. Because it's PD pushing this and not Sony. Sony released HZ FW just 2 weeks earlier with ZERO mtx. It's not always the big bad publisher. This is Kaz and no one else.

 

[m76]

They know whatever they say next will decide if the franchise can be salvaged or not.

 

[alex511]

I think, there in background will follow many discusses between Sony and PD.
The sells will be pretty good for GT7 in the first month because of all the preorders and first-day-buyers.
But they certainly will speak about the following business year and the „problems“ in the media, because of they could affect the continue business . And that’s not pretty of course for both, so they have to do anything.

 

[Wheatybic]

They know whatever they say next will decide if the franchise can be salvaged or not.

that is a really stupid statement if you actually follow gaming at all. cp77 was absolutely destroyed publicly at launcher and for the year following but as soon as it was put back onto the psn store it was the top seller of the month. user reviews on metacritic and the tiny percentage of people on a forum aren't the majority, casuals are happy

 

[kjeldsen]

GT is already dead bro. No matter how much they try to fix this if they dont make the game playable offline, imagine what happens when they announce gt8 lmfaooo

Maybe you didn't notice but this is how games work now. And it's only getting worse so when they announce GT8 (if ever) only the last naive ignorant will raise an eyebrow.

 

[m76]

that is a really stupid statement if you actually follow gaming at all. cp77 was absolutely destroyed publicly at launcher and for the year following but as soon as it was put back onto the psn store it was the top seller of the month. user reviews on metacritic and the tiny percentage of people on a forum aren't the majority, casuals are happy

And the CP2077 franchise is as good as dead, there will unlikely to be any major expansions or sequels at this point. Think before you call anyone stupid.

Also how do you gleam that casuals are happy? Just because someone is not registered o GTP doesn't mean they are happy with GT7, whether they are casual or not. Technically I'm a casual too, since I don't play any racing games competitively or even regularly. So your little theory falls apart like a house of cards.

 

[Wheatybic]

And the CP2077 franchise is as good as dead, there will unlikely to be any major expansions or sequels at this point. Think before you call anyone stupid.

Also how do you gleam that casuals are happy? Just because someone is not registered o GTP doesn't mean they are happy with GT7, whether they are casual or not. Technically I'm a casual too, since I don't play any racing games competitively or even regularly. So your little theory falls apart like a house of cards.

not even worth arguing when you say cp77 franchise is dead lmao

 

[JoaoSilva]

And the CP2077 franchise is as good as dead, there will unlikely to be any major expansions or sequels at this point. Think before you call anyone stupid.

The Cyberpunk franchise is dead? What are you smoking? Also there will be multiple expansions for CP2077, already confirmed by the dev team.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

They are silent because they don't have criptic insiders to rely on anymore.

 

[Race_Fit]

No, the RE 7 is the holy grail of 7's . IF there was a 0 miles Spirit and a 0 miles RE the RE would command more, Thats like saying a zero miles vanila Mustang would cost less than a 0 miles Shelby mustang . the shelby mustang is modified but still commands $$$. The body kit alone is like 30,000$

Couple of assumptions wrong with your example.
Firstly, nobody gives **** all about vanilla Mustangs, even V8 Mustangs (my mother owns a GT ffs) so outside of odd niche wants in the future with manuals plus the oddity of a v8, Mustangs will be worth **** all. Shelby Mustangs are not just "modified" cars, they are factory built, Vin matching, limited run vehicles and that's part of their worth.

RE A tune Rx7s. Their value is in the mazda rx7, and while the above example sort of fits, rx7s aren't the camry of "sports cars" so they are more valuable than just any old Mustang. That's besides the point, REA as cool as their cars are, are not Shelby Mustangs. They aren't factory built, Vin matching cars. They don't count as limited run or rare vehicles. Hell REA can probably make you another if you felt like devaluing your RX7. Spirit Rs are extremely rare, and part of that rarity is even finding one that hasn't been modified.
Fact is modifying your car lowers it's value, just because someone will pay 30k for a body kit, doesn't mean the car you put that body kit on is now worth 30k more, it's worth less in actuality.
A better example would have been Saleen maybe... but even that's more of a stretch because Saleen was contracted by Ford to modify Mustangs, so in a way they are "factory". Granted their VINs come back to just Mustangs anyway.

 

[kraftwerkd]

And the CP2077 franchise is as good as dead, there will unlikely to be any major expansions or sequels at this point. Think before you call anyone stupid.

There's a Netflix anime series being produced in Japan for it right now.. Wtf you talking about dead? Rofl.

The Imdb for it: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12590266/

 

[kennylmao]

I feel Sony is behind this .
Hear me out , MTX have existed since GT6 but Kaz and Crew litteraly did everything possible to make it redundant , GT6 and sport had options to turn it off too..
In GT6 all the VGT Seasonal events paid out One million credits if you got gold and gave you the VGT for just finishing the event . GT sport gave you cars every day , and credits were easy to come by.
Stop ignoring the fact PD is the LAST major japanese dev sony has and this game was the first PD game under Sony studios which is a COLABORATIVE led by sony usa.
I smell a sabotage .

I want to believe

 

[Akwaaba]

If I remember correctly, the first content update for GTS was a couple of cars, about 5 or 6 weeks after release. Although the mileage exchange store had 2 new cars available every fortnight as well. Then there was a big update another 4 weeks or so later, which included the GT league/campaign or whatever it was called.

I do not expect another message from Kaz or PD until they are ready to announce the next content update. The earliest I guess might be is in a couple of weeks. I would be surprised if we had to wait longer than another month - I hope not, because I think that most players will have run out of content (they want to play) well before then!

 

[mwoodski]

If I remember correctly, the first content update for GTS was a couple of cars, about 5 or 6 weeks after release. Although the mileage exchange store had 2 new cars available every fortnight as well. Then there was a big update another 4 weeks or so later, which included the GT league/campaign or whatever it was called.

I do not expect another message from Kaz or PD until they are ready to announce the next content update. The earliest I guess might be is in a couple of weeks. I would be surprised if we had to wait longer than another month - I hope not, because I think that most players will have run out of content (they want to play) well before then!

We pretty much know the next content update will feature 9 cars and more events. This was shown on the Jimmy Fallon version of the game that included a total car roster saying 433, and actually showing those events that aren't there currently.

It's just knowing when we're gonna get that update.

 

[Wheatybic]

i get the feeling people here have only ever played gts and gt7 when they say "just wait bro gts had updates and the game was good 4 years after launch stop being so needy" like bro we paid full price for a game it's supposed to be complete at launch and anything afterwards is a bonus.

keyword: bonus. not meant to fix the game but add things to make it better. we need a few years of content for gt7 to even come close to older gt in terms of campaign

i only bring this up cause i stg every time i open a thread it has someone or a few people saying the same thing over and over

 

[ToyGTone]

Bud PD and Kaz have two decades of incompetance out of touch bad decisions lacking features BS excuses and delivering underwhelming results that tell us its all them. Plus they already tried this **** with GT HD.

Also there is the simple fact no other sony games have any of this BS, even ones that just released.

MTX pricing would not even matter had the fool Kaz not made the price of cars reflect real world markets. Thats all him bud, typical unnecessary bs that everyone hates in a long list of Kaz wants.

It's completely not obvious though. Because it's PD pushing this and not Sony. Sony released HZ FW just 2 weeks earlier with ZERO mtx. It's not always the big bad publisher. This is Kaz and no one else.

(Huge offtopic rant)

While i partly agree that a lot of the missteps with GT7 is PDI's doing and not Sony. I think people seemed to have forgotten that Sony have released games that are arguably less than stellar.

Everything from Days Gone, The Last Of Us 2, The Order 1886, David Cage games and also Driveclub during it's 2014 launch day. Heck, i would argue that even Death Stranding was a mixed bag for a lot of players (by Hideo Kojima MGS games standards, that is). Not saying they are bad games but still.

GT7 is really just a sad reflection of the current state of AAA Studios. Greedy Publishers, lack luster gameplay and lots of buggy mess.

Look at current day Rockstar Games and how they butchered the Trilogy remaster, milked GTA Online for nearly 9 straight years and how they been suing their own fanbase for simply making fan made mods. Look at CDPR and the disaster that was Cyberpunk. Look at EA with their latest Battlefield game and how low NFS have fallen. Look at sports games like FIFA & Pro Evolution Soccer. Look at 2K games and how laughable WWE 2K20 was. Look at Activision-Blizzard, Bethesda, Ubisoft, SEGA or even Nintendo. I'm not saying that they aren't any good games by AAA Studios because that's clearly not the case. It's just that a lot of Companies or game series have sunken too low imo.

 

[Lux Klonoa]

It's just knowing when we're gonna get that update.

If Sport's monthly update is anything to go by, either next week or the week after. Keep in mind we're still in a pandemic with a bunch of people still working from home, though, so it could be later than that.

 

[FoxMulder]

i get the feeling people here have only ever played gts and gt7 when they say "just wait bro gts had updates and the game was good 4 years after launch stop being so needy" like bro we paid full price for a game it's supposed to be complete at launch and anything afterwards is a bonus.

keyword: bonus. not meant to fix the game but add things to make it better. we need a few years of content for gt7 to even come close to older gt in terms of campaign

i only bring this up cause i stg every time i open a thread it has someone or a few people saying the same thing over and over

GT7 probably wouldn’t have had half of the complaints and backlash if it at least had lots of content. GT Sport has like 300 races with the cups they added. Somehow GT7 launched with like a third of that with the Cafe stuff that felt like a tutorial.

 

[Warte]

Of course the references change and the situation is different (ex. home office), but when Sport launched, some mechanics and the lack of content created backlash. It didn't take long for PD to announce that they would add 50 cars by March 2018, trying to calm the mood. I have no doubt that something similar will be announced (even because the current situation is much more harmful).

GT Sport Patch v1.06 to Bring New Cars and Offline Modes

Back in 2016, Kazunori Yamauchi promised that GT Sport players wouldn't have to wait long for new content to come to the game: “Naturally we’re planning DLC and updates after launch, but I can’t go into specifics at this point in time. What I can tell you is that you won’t be kept waiting for a yea

www.gtplanet.net

 

[O604]

Another consideration is Tokyo was in power conservation mode until today. Companies like Toyota and Subaru shut down last week to conserve power.

Japan turns down the heat and dims the lights to avoid power cut after quake

Japanese turned off neon signs, dimmed their lights and dialled down thermostats on Tuesday after the government issued an urgent call to save energy to avoid blackouts after an earthquake last week caused a serious power shortage.

www.reuters.com

 

[kowalski__1]

(Huge offtopic rant)

While i partly agree that a lot of the missteps with GT7 is PDI's doing and not Sony. I think people seemed to have forgotten that Sony have released games that are arguably less than stellar.

Everything from Days Gone, The Last Of Us 2, The Order 1886, David Cage games and also Driveclub during it's 2014 launch day. Heck, i would argue that even Death Stranding was a mixed bag for a lot of players (by Hideo Kojima MGS games standards, that is). Not saying they are bad games but still.

GT7 is really just a sad reflection of the current state of AAA Studios. Greedy Publishers, lack luster gameplay and lots of buggy mess.

Look at current day Rockstar Games and how they butchered the Trilogy remaster, milked GTA Online for nearly 9 straight years and how they been suing their own fanbase for simply making fan made mods. Look at CDPR and the disaster that was Cyberpunk. Look at EA with their latest Battlefield game and how low NFS have fallen. Look at sports games like FIFA & Pro Evolution Soccer. Look at 2K games and how laughable WWE 2K20 was. Look at Activision-Blizzard, Bethesda, Ubisoft, SEGA or even Nintendo. I'm not saying that they aren't any good games by AAA Studios because that's clearly not the case. It's just that a lot of Companies or game series have sunken too low imo.

Absolute perfection dude!...

 

[GTboyz]

We pretty much know the next content update will feature 9 cars and more events. This was shown on the Jimmy Fallon version of the game that included a total car roster saying 433, and actually showing those events that aren't there currently.

It's just knowing when we're gonna get that update.

9 cars ? what are they ?

 

[Supaboost]

(Huge offtopic rant)

While i partly agree that a lot of the missteps with GT7 is PDI's doing and not Sony. I think people seemed to have forgotten that Sony have released games that are arguably less than stellar.

Everything from Days Gone, The Last Of Us 2, The Order 1886, David Cage games and also Driveclub during it's 2014 launch day. Heck, i would argue that even Death Stranding was a mixed bag for a lot of players (by Hideo Kojima MGS games standards, that is). Not saying they are bad games but still.

GT7 is really just a sad reflection of the current state of AAA Studios. Greedy Publishers, lack luster gameplay and lots of buggy mess.

Look at current day Rockstar Games and how they butchered the Trilogy remaster, milked GTA Online for nearly 9 straight years and how they been suing their own fanbase for simply making fan made mods. Look at CDPR and the disaster that was Cyberpunk. Look at EA with their latest Battlefield game and how low NFS have fallen. Look at sports games like FIFA & Pro Evolution Soccer. Look at 2K games and how laughable WWE 2K20 was. Look at Activision-Blizzard, Bethesda, Ubisoft, SEGA or even Nintendo. I'm not saying that they aren't any good games by AAA Studios because that's clearly not the case. It's just that a lot of Companies or game series have sunken too low imo.

No bud. its all PD being inept led by a greedy fool and we have two decades of proof.

Sony recently released Horizen Sifu Rachet and Retural. All well made high quality well recieved by the gamer community. Nothing like the face plant into a wall faliure PD/Kaz just turned GT7 into.

 

[ToyGTone]

Sony recently released Horizen Sifu Rachet and Retural. All well made high quality well recieved by the gamer community. Nothing like the face plant into a wall faliure PD/Kaz just turned GT7 into.

Activision did a great job with the Spyro Trilogy and Crash Bandicoot 4, meanwhile EA were the publishers behind It Takes Two and A Way Out which i heard really high praises on.

It doesn't mean that EA or Activision-Blizzard aren't a scummy company that makes questionable decisions and one that shoved half assed games with micro transactions and other crap in it.

Again, I'm not defending Polyphony but you make it sound like Sony's game studios never gave us a garbage fest before. Either way, Sony is still partly to be blamed here. If they really cared about quality product then they wouldn't have approved this scummy behaviour and would've refused to release this game in this state.

 

[Supaboost]

Activision did a great job with the Spyro Trilogy and Crash Bandicoot 4, meanwhile EA were the publishers behind It Takes Two and A Way Out.

It doesn't mean that EA or Activision aren't a scummy company that makes questionable decisions and shoving half assed games with micro transactions and other crap in their own games.

Any point you think you are making is null and void for one given the state the last Battlefield and COD came out in.

And two, FYI your two EA examples are from an Independant studio lol.

 

[ToyGTone]

Any point you think you are making is null and void for one given the state the last Battlefield and COD came out in.

That's the point lol.

Most of their games are garbage but it doesn't mean they didn't come out with any good games even if they are the exception rather than the norm.

And just because a lot of Sony's 8th & 9th gen exclusives were quite good, doesn't mean they didn't come out with absolute turd like The Last Of Us Part II. A terrible sequel to literally one of the best games to ever come out on the PS3.

 

[Supaboost]

That's the point lol.

Most of their games are garbage but it doesn't mean they didn't come out with any good games even if they are the exception rather than the norm.

And just because a lot of Sony's 8th & 9th gen exclusives were quite good, doesn't mean they didn't come out with absolute turd like The Last Of Us Part II. A terrible sequel to literally one of the best games to ever come out on the PS3.

Those good games arent EAs bud. EA didnt make em. What dont you get ? And im damn sure we'd all love a GT4 remake, Activision remaking solid games proves what lol.

Hell i WISH GT7 was TLOU2 terrible lol. Thats how bad GT7 is. Dude just look at the last five Sony releases, hell go ten deep. GT7 is in a distant league of its own as far as let down mediocrity and failure is concerned.

Even if we Forget MTX, GT7 still sucks. All the idiot Kaz decisions make it suck.

 

[ToyGTone]

Those good games arent EAs bud. EA didnt make em. What dont you get ? And im damn sure we'd all love a GT4 remake, Activision remaking solid games proves what lol.

I wasn't referring to EA since i never realized those games were not made by them until now, my bad. Also Crash Bandicoot 4 was never a remake, it's an entire new game.

Overwatch (back in 2016 at least) was a pretty good fps game and that was made by Blizzard so that technically counts inguess. Yeah I don't have many examples but what you expect, they stopped making decent games since 10 years ago or so lol.

Hell i WISH GT7 was TLOU2 terrible lol. Thats how bad GT7 is. Dude just look at the last five Sony releases, hell go ten deep. GT7 is in a distant league of its own as far as let down mediocrity and failure is concerned.

Even if we Forget MTX, GT7 still sucks. All the idiot Kaz decisions make it suck.

Eh...I wouldn't go that far since TLOU is one of those games where the story matters way more than the gameplay (tlou1&2 gameplay is a bit bland tbh) so it's still outright bad, especially coming from Naughty Dog.

Otherwise, I totally agree with you regarding GT7 being a massive disappointment even without the MTX.

Sigh all i wanted to say is that Sony could be involved in pushing MTX into GT7. I mean GT6 did have micro transactions but that game practically showered you with money and cars so hence why i and others are asking this question.
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