The Thrustmaster T500RS Thread

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maks
Apologies in advance for asking a question that may have been answered....

I'm wondering if Thrustmaster is working on backwards compatibility for PS3 games? I'm hoping a firmware update can give us some sort of compatibility mode or generic wheel detection. Has there been any documented word on this? Have they stated why we can't play older games?

Even on PC I can't quite seem to play a recent game such as NFS Hot Pursuit.
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The short answer..... No.

Compatibility for older PS3 games will have to be patched into the game itself.

If you play a game that is not compatible, the T500 will automatically switch itself into a generic wheel type of mode, something that emulates a DS3 controller I think. This mode does not support force feedback obviously, but supports a couple of adjustments you can do to help tailor the wheel to the game you are playing. You can find more info on this if you look at some of the documentation that came with your wheel. I remember seeing it somewhere in there. Otherwise, you can check Thrustmaster's site.

NFS Hot Pursuit sucks for wheel support. It didn't even have wheel support at all until enough people complained about it. You are better off using a controller for that game.
 
mitchcarino
Hey Dude, if you don't mind me calling you that. The fan upgrade is in page 239-240 of this forum. The guy that posted it, did an excellent job. The Fan replacement provided by Thrustmaster seems to be the exact same one that they originally installed. I don't think it's going to solve the problem. Plus most people are having to open the wheel and replace the casing for themselves. So as long as you're going to repalce the fan, might as well check out what this guy posted. Probably going to void your warranty, but at the same time your going to protect your motor and the circuits. Peace
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Hey, I don't mind at all this time around.

I did read about that fan mod as the guy was posting it. Even though it sounds like a good long term solution, I wouldn't do it. Not only would it void warranty, but it would also let Thrustmaster off the hook for this problem they caused by going cheap on the fan selection.

If they have to go and replace enough fans, maybe in future versions of their product they will use something of a higher grade. That won't help us much, but at least it will save future owners the same troubles we had to go through as early adopters of this wheel.
 
SC Juggernaut
Hey, I don't mind at all this time around.

I did read about that fan mod as the guy was posting it. Even though it sounds like a good long term solution, I wouldn't do it. Not only would it void warranty, but it would also let Thrustmaster off the hook for this problem they caused by going cheap on the fan selection.

If they have to go and replace enough fans, maybe in future versions of their product they will use something of a higher grade. That won't help us much, but at least it will save future owners the same troubles we had to go through as early adopters of this wheel.
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Very good point
 
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* PROCEDURE TO PERFECTLY CENTER THE WHEEL

1) Once the wheel is connected (and after the wheel has calibrated
itself), turn the wheel completely to the left and then completely to
the right.

2) Next, move the wheel to its perfectly centered position.

3) Simultaneously press and then release the “START + SELECT + MODE” buttons.

4) The wheel’s new central value is automatically and permanently saved in the wheel’s internal Flash memory

(note: do not repeat this procedure each time you reconnect the wheel).
IMPORTANT: Be sure not to not use this procedure too often, since there
are a limited number of times that changes can be written to the wheel’s
internal Flash memory.

= This procedure must be used only to modify the factory setting of the wheel’s central value.
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The question is....
If I over write the Fash Memory,what will happen on T500RS?Is I can't write another data?
So....if I'm over write,what should I do?And how to check is it over?And can it DELETE the data?
 
SC Juggernaut
Hey, I don't mind at all this time around.

I did read about that fan mod as the guy was posting it. Even though it sounds like a good long term solution, I wouldn't do it. Not only would it void warranty, but it would also let Thrustmaster off the hook for this problem they caused by going cheap on the fan selection.

If they have to go and replace enough fans, maybe in future versions of their product they will use something of a higher grade. That won't help us much, but at least it will save future owners the same troubles we had to go through as early adopters of this wheel.
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You're right about voiding the warranty and about letting thrustmaster off the hook. It's a shame they installed that type of fan, especially on a 600 dollar wheel. Seems all wheels have their setbacks. At least the T500 rs has a great motor and great sensors. I remember there is a forum on Logitech's web site where some one posted pictures on how to repair a loose centering sensro which would make the steering wheel tilt towards the left. I had to perform that operation on my G27 and from that point on I had very little faith in that wheel. I still have it as a back up, though. Eventually when my warranty expires, I'm going to install the extra fans. The guy did a great job. Cheers. Sorry for the earlier mishap between you and me.
 
I see why the new Thrustmaster F150 package doesn't have the fixed paddles now . The wheel looks good , and that set up is trick:tup:

P.S
Thats assuming this wheel is not just a consumer mod and will be available to all of us , why the frex shifter ?
 
mitchcarino
You're right about voiding the warranty and about letting thrustmaster off the hook. It's a shame they installed that type of fan, especially on a 600 dollar wheel. Seems all wheels have their setbacks. At least the T500 rs has a great motor and great sensors. I remember there is a forum on Logitech's web site where some one posted pictures on how to repair a loose centering sensro which would make the steering wheel tilt towards the left. I had to perform that operation on my G27 and from that point on I had very little faith in that wheel. I still have it as a back up, though. Eventually when my warranty expires, I'm going to install the extra fans. The guy did a great job. Cheers. Sorry for the earlier mishap between you and me.
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No problem man, I accept your apology, and I apologize as well for how I chose to respond to your post. Things did get out of hand, but it's good that we are both big enough to put it in the past where it belongs.

It's interesting that you mention that loose centering sensor problem with the G27. I wanted to buy one and was hesitant about making the purchase after reading about people having that problem with the wheel. I waited too long to decide, and couldn't find any place that had one available. That eventually lead me into buying a T500 RS, which unfortunately has problems of it's own as well. People really do take a chance when they buy any wheel on the market, regardless of what brand it's from.
 
Anyone else notice the new F1 wheel's focus and how the shifter is being held back. I find this repulsive. It's a true slap in the face for those of us that adopted early with hopes of a June release. Now we get a new wheel. Yet no shifter. Go figure. So our new shiny wheel is old hat before even getting clutch a gear. Baffling.

What's my third pedal for again? So you can flip the pedals or is supposed to be a clutch? :)

Come on TM get us that shifter already. We bought this wheel cause of the banger. We have no banger though.
 
OwensRacing
Anyone else notice the new F1 wheel's focus and how the shifter is being held back. I find this repulsive. It's a true slap in the face for those of us that adopted early with hopes of a June release. Now we get a new wheel. Yet no shifter. Go figure. So our new shiny wheel is old hat before even getting clutch a gear. Baffling.

What's my third pedal for again? So you can flip the pedals or is supposed to be a clutch? :)

Come on TM get us that shifter already. We bought this wheel cause of the banger. We have no banger though.
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Unless I saw something wrong when I was checking things out online, both products will be available for shipment at the same time.
 
What's with the constant complaining about the shifter, Owens? I don't understand...

Thrustmaster promised a shifter ever since they released the T500RS. Back when no info was available on the shifter, you complained about the lack of info. Now it's announced, there's videos out and you know that it'll be out before christmas this year and yet you're still complaining.

A new wheel rim is released, which increases the appeal and perceived value of the wheel you purchased.

Have you even seen the videos of the shifter? It's truly amazing, you should be ecstatic but you only complain.

What gives? :confused:
 
My opinion. My feelings. I sold off an awesomely fun G27 with a stick to get a T500 with a stick. I feel hustled with how long it's taking. I miss banging gears and getting very restless waiting.

Maybe it's not important to you. But to me it is. Only reason I bought a wheel in the first place was a clutch and shifter.

Meh i dislike TM's strategies.
 
OwensRacing
Meh i dislike TM's strategies.
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Me too... I wish they would have scrapped the whole development of the shifter to make it the best shifter on the market and instead give us a wooden stick, stuck in a can of glue. Much like the G27 stick.

That way you could have any pattern you like, just imagine it´s there and go racing!

..Or we let TM take their time to develop a product that will blow everyone away because of the fact that they did not rush it one bit but instead took their time.

I bet you think the same way about GT5 taking 6 years? Imagine if they would have put out the game after 3 years....
 
You're trying to convince me to have your opinion. Not gonna be raped of my own feelings sorry. Find a new person to attempt said feat.

As for GT5, I was content shooting people while I waited.



You also are not gonna tell me the time and effort put into the F1 wheel wouldn't have been better spent getting the shifter out first. In my opinion it should of been priority. It was advertised as a clutch wheel.

/last response. Not gonna argue my opinions anymore

Edit: after my customer service issue. All patience and respect for TM was gone. Worst I have ever dealt with in a long long time.
 
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Oh well. I have a feeling that you'll be happy once you have it in your hands.

I know I will (if it works with other wheels on GT5, that is). :)
 
SC Juggernaut
No problem man, I accept your apology, and I apologize as well for how I chose to respond to your post. Things did get out of hand, but it's good that we are both big enough to put it in the past where it belongs.

It's interesting that you mention that loose centering sensor problem with the G27. I wanted to buy one and was hesitant about making the purchase after reading about people having that problem with the wheel. I waited too long to decide, and couldn't find any place that had one available. That eventually lead me into buying a T500 RS, which unfortunately has problems of it's own as well. People really do take a chance when they buy any wheel on the market, regardless of what brand it's from.
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Thank you for your apology. I also think it's good we're talking. Water under the bridge.

Regarding the G27, I think you made the right choice waiting it out. The problem with the centering issue in the G27 is way worse than the problem with the fan in the T500. Plus the T500 is a better wheel overall. I also believe some one in this forum said, or maybe it was somewhere else, that Logitech was getting out of the steering wheel business. I don't know if that's true or not. Haven't cheked it out yet, but the G27's centering problem really did make me suffer. Especially after just one week of use. I did fix it using the guide on their web page's forum about the problem. But I believe it is only a matter of time before the screws holding the centering sensor will fall loose again misaligning the wheel.

On the other hand, it is very interesting that logitech allow's that forum to exist on their web page in the first place. It speaks allot about their company. They aknowledge there's a problem and they replace your wheel as many times as it takes. They even pay for shipping both ways. And it doesn't matter what part of the world you live in. They also don't hide info if you want to fix it yourself. In this sense thrustmaster customer service could take a hint. A well treated customer always will come back. I also find it very interesting that in the case of both wheels, it was a customer who went in and fixed the problem. It goes to show you the amount of thought and quality control that goes into products these days.
 
TM is probably waiting on PD to release a patch to make the shifter work with the PS3 and GT5. No point in releasing it early even if it will work for the PC because it was developed for GT not PC they would give them priority to sync with PD's release for a driver patch.
 
Radracing
TM is probably waiting on PD to release a patch to make the shifter work with the PS3 and GT5. No point in releasing it early even if it will work for the PC because it was developed for GT not PC they would give them priority to sync with PD's release for a driver patch.
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Beings that clutch and shifter worked fine with a G27. One would think this is a simple patch.
 
The game already has the capability needed for handling the shifter built into it.

The next big update from PD is Spec II, and it will be out later this month. Hopefully it only contains major improvements and enhancements.
 
I rather they take their time to perfect it. We all know if it has some defect these forums will be full of complaints. Better people complain about the long wait times rather than complain about defective products. 👍

Besides I'm busy with the slew of games that came out during this Christmas rush. I barely get a chance to bring out my racing wheel lately. So next month or so will be much better for me maybe I'll be done with my other games by then
 
mitchcarino
Thank you for your apology. I also think it's good we're talking. Water under the bridge.

Regarding the G27, I think you made the right choice waiting it out. The problem with the centering issue in the G27 is way worse than the problem with the fan in the T500. Plus the T500 is a better wheel overall. I also believe some one in this forum said, or maybe it was somewhere else, that Logitech was getting out of the steering wheel business. I don't know if that's true or not. Haven't cheked it out yet, but the G27's centering problem really did make me suffer. Especially after just one week of use. I did fix it using the guide on their web page's forum about the problem. But I believe it is only a matter of time before the screws holding the centering sensor will fall loose again misaligning the wheel.

On the other hand, it is very interesting that logitech allow's that forum to exist on their web page in the first place. It speaks allot about their company. They aknowledge there's a problem and they replace your wheel as many times as it takes. They even pay for shipping both ways. And it doesn't matter what part of the world you live in. They also don't hide info if you want to fix it yourself. In this sense thrustmaster customer service could take a hint. A well treated customer always will come back. I also find it very interesting that in the case of both wheels, it was a customer who went in and fixed the problem. It goes to show you the amount of thought and quality control that goes into products these days.
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It's too bad it looks like Logitech is fading away from the racing wheel market. A G27 isn't easy to come by nowadays, and all you can really find in stores is the DFGT, which makes sense because it's licensed by Sony and PD for GT5.
 
WildRun
Modded T500 RS + Jordan Tresson + Mobsim Cockpit :
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwF9K2QFESc">YouTube Link</a>
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Is it me or is he over turning every turn in this video. Appears he jerks wheel to almost 180. Does that seem right? I pretty sure I only go 180 on hair pins.
 
While we wait for our banger, Anyone think we need a progressive spring set up for clutch? Maybe design a longer pedal for more throw. Then have ability to set the break away or release when depressing. Mmmmm I am dreaming here but man I love to have a good clutch feel with an extended throw.

Basically I am seeing a spring that depresses in so far progressive then when it reaches a pressure or so point in travel it releases pressure and pushes on down like a real clutch. Boggling the brain on how this feat could be engineered. This type of clutch would be the next step. So I think.

Anyone got ideas? Throw them out here. Maybe we can design something here.


Initial thoughts are long throw solenoid with adjustable voltage so off engagement it increases voltage adding tension then once it travels so far all voltage stops and only spring there. This be clutch pressure plates relase and engagement point. Take a potetmeter of sort and variable pressure solenoid. One we can over ride. Wait air piston or actuator maybe. Or the magnetic ride used in shocks to increase their ability to be compressed. Valves with little decomp. Hmmmm
 

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