The Vision GT Thread - Car No.18-20 SRT Tomahawk S GTS-R X Vision GT - STILL 26/06/15

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Do we need this thread to be sticky?

  • Yes! It`s the reference thread for the ongoing VGT releases.

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  • No! Just no!

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  • I don`t care!

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PEUGEOT Vision Gran Turismo

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I hate the car. Gripes:
1. Top speed is WAY too low.
2. Its ugly.
3. The blue is the ONLY colour without a secondary colour. Black would have suited it perfectly.
4. It feels lifeless, the R5 hatch feels more like a race car.
5. There is NO lenience with the redline, its very very hard not to overshoot it in low gears and cook the engine.
6. It is probably slower than a lot of cars that I can think of, especially as its a "race car".
So overall not replacing the Alpines or INFINITI at the top of my fav VGT list.
 
Enjoyed it. (Peugeot VGT)
Weak brakes and "nervous" in corners but with the security blanket of four wheel drive.
Paint chips are oddlynamed with numbers at the end in places, Flash Ice... Just hope I can re-spray mine. (BLUE #296)
Hope away - you can't respray.
Engine note is quite good, bobbling about at low speed revs.
Not bad looking, in a hairy armpit French way. (I imagine Sophie Marceau stepping out of this car for a film premier.)

I may be a bit biased as I was just happy the V1.19 update installed in one go.
 
The Peugeot Vision GT doesn't seem to have an interior, much like the others, once again.

Once again, I feel that this needs to be said:

  • Open roof? A Detailed tnterior will exist.
  • Fixed close roof? Unless your name is 2X, no, you won't have a detailed interior.
Can we please stick to these two and stop trying to hope for fixed, closed roof cars to have interiors? I do know I said that I thought that the Pug would have a detailed interior from the teaser images, but I guess that the teaser images may show one thing, while the actual game will not follow said thing.

As for the Pug, I'll try to drive it now. If it is "nervous" (as Ryk said), it's at least not another hyper-grip machine. That's somewhat original. It may feel more like the (Aston Martin) DP-100 than what I initially thought.
 
I like it's engine and it's sound. I'm not confident on its brakes that do not brake as much as a race car. And it has not a lot of aerodynamic grip so I feel it funny.

But when I look at it's physic, I believe it's nothing else than an 208 T16 PP with a different skin...

I was also surprised by the color names... But I also name the color of the cars we have at school by their numbers besause when you have the same car in twice with 2 differents white colors, it's the only way to do. So to my mind it's not shocking.
 
I like it's engine and it's sound. I'm not confident on its brakes that do not brake as much as a race car. And it has not a lot of aerodynamic grip so I feel it funny.

But when I look at it's physic, I believe it's nothing else than an 208 T16 PP with a different skin...

I was also surprised by the color names... But I also name the color of the cars we have at school by their numbers besause when you have the same car in twice with 2 differents white colors, it's the only way to do. So to my mind it's not shocking.

Well, you're not entirely wrong there, with your 208 idea. Heck, even Peugeot's own head of design said more or less the same on the teaser video (the fact that the same specs idea could be found on the T16 PP, and they tried to recreate it for this car). So it does make sense somewhat.

I've just driven the car, and it isn't all that bad. My main gripe is, as usual with these 4WD VGTs, the understeer. I don't get why does PD feel that all the settings for these cars have to be so agressive, they just end up overdoing it and you end up having to face the understeer more that you'd like to fight against. The gearbox isn't as unforgiving as most may think, the LM55 is much worst in that aspect of not allowing you to get far in the redline, not to mention that the Mazda accelerates much quicker, meaning that you really can't blink for more than a micro-second (now that car is unforgiving). And the blue isn't the only colour that lacks the red accents of the "normal" (the grey-colored car) version. The red also lacks the fully red accents. However, the black is the one and only color that really works with these red accents, the rest just don't favour them too well.

But overall, it's a nice car. I just wish PD would stop trying to force understeer-heavy setups down our throats. But on the plus side, most parts (i.e. suspension, gearbox, LSD) can be set up, so you're not forced to keep PD's own setup. As usual, one has to wait for a proper tune, to get the most out of this car...
 
I think this Peugeot VGT is an awesome looking machine and in Blue #296 it is stunning. The brakes are pretty poor and it understeers excessively though.

I'm not one for usually commenting on the sound issues in GT but for this VGT I will make an exception. It is absolutely horrendous. It sounds artificial, like all with AES, and when you come off throttle it goes silent. There is no sound of the engine winding down. Also, even though it is hugely quick the wind noise is overdone.
 
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I believe the car's descprition says its a race car. It handles like a road car... and after just two laps a 675PP Furai Concept is just 2 seconds off, and a bundle more fun to drive. I think that a top driver could get them within a second of each other. And it comes in about fiveteen colours with upgrades. As does the GTbyCitroen and its varients. You do know it comes with something amazing called "oversteer", right?
 
I believe the car's descprition says its a race car. It handles like a road car... and after just two laps a 675PP Furai Concept is just 2 seconds off, and a bundle more fun to drive. I think that a top driver could get them within a second of each other. And it comes in about fiveteen colours with upgrades. As does the GTbyCitroen and its varients. You do know it comes with something amazing called "oversteer", right?

I guess it's really just the stock setup of the Pug that holds it back. I bet that with some gearbox adjustments, and some tweaks to the LSD and suspension, it would give the Furai a run for its money. Not much you can do about the lack of colors, but hey, if you can make it into a good racing car...

And while oversteer is good, too much of it can be annoying, you know.
 
Like the looks (apart from the odd side-window tinting) and find the colour names to be kinda cool.

It seems like a good starting point for tuning, but it's still fairly decent as is.
 
It's not bad, I just wellied in a Silver time on my lunch break so I had the car ready for some testing tonight.

I have to say though I find its silence under braking disturbing... for me it's important to have the engine note in order to time downshifts properly.
 
Just did 10 laps of Brands GP to get a feel for the Pug, whilst I was driving I was thinking to myself how bad a handling car it was, and how bad I thought it was, until I saw the time at the end! So, I think there's a good chance I'm simply over-driving the car, not realising how fast I'm already going, so I'll persevere.

I'm still hating the lack of engine noise under braking.
 
I'm still hating the lack of engine noise under braking.
Yes, yes, YES!!!

I don't dislike the car as a whole. I'm still clamoring for a VGT with comfort tires as default (and the appropriate lack of racing brakes), but this one can be tunes as much as I'd need it to be (suspension and differentials) and is certainly capable.
 
Just had a few (120 miles worth of) goes in the Peugeot VGT.
I ran an altered "High speed" set up for the "Like the wind" trio of events. You can fit a custom gearbox which didn't overwhelm in the sound area. - Car seemed to top out at 240 or so, if you shave the aero down you can get to 260 I think before the power is balanced to the Drag of the car.
Quite liked the Engine sound from it, a bit trumpet-y Matra. What I would give for a Matra V12 in GT... My other kidney maybe...

Also ran stock on the Dream Car event at Cape Ring - it isn't super planted and the brakes are still odd - I was expecting much more lock ups due to the "Added Lightness" but they feel like they are just about to get in a tractor and go on strike in Paris. Odd but it has Character. I may have to turn up the brakes to force some lock ups out of the car - or maybe drop the tyres down.
Looks - Side tinted window> Unless you drive a Stratos you hardly ever need to look left and right while you are motoring along.
If the car was "Ford GT40 50th anniversary concept" I wonder how many would dislike the car.
(All you Aussie Holden Fans can zip it!)
I hope the "Racing Version" teased in the sketches drops in soon.
 
Does anyone else notice the Alpine Vision VGTs now have some popping going on with their engine note?

I actually did so too, which is quite interesting. Perhaps these sounds were tweaked a little and we weren't really warned of it. Maybe the AES-tuned sounds are being tweaked as PD goes through the list of VGT cars...

Ryk
If the car was "Ford GT40 50th anniversary concept" I wonder how many would dislike the car.
(All you Aussie Holden Fans can zip it!)

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I don't quite get this reference, so I won't say much about this.

As for the "racing version" bit, however, I'm not sure if it'll happen. Usually there would have to be some sort of appearance of a racing version on the car's video to prove that such a version will exist. Yes, there are design sketches. But that's really all we have of a possible "Peugeot VGT Racing". The SRT does have a higher possibility of having two versions, because there are different cars on both the teaser pictures and the teaser video.
 
I'm still hating the lack of engine noise under braking.
The sound is awful. The channel mixing is dreadful in the way you hear one quieten and another, usually tyre screech, comes in. No engine sound under braking though... Staggeringly amateur.

It is a pity as I really like this VGT otherwise. The styling is fabulous.
 
The sound is awful. The channel mixing is dreadful in the way you hear one quieten and another, usually tyre screech, comes in. No engine sound under braking though... Staggeringly amateur.

It is a pity as I really like this VGT otherwise. The styling is fabulous.

Man, Scuderia, you really did not enjoy the engine sound of the Peugeot at all,did you? I've seen you post that at least on three threads. And I understand your complaints, mind you, that area is a bit like the rest of the car; it has potential, but said potential isn't being used to its fullest.

Also, I've seen a tune for this car (from shawn80, IIRC), and I'm quite eager to test it out. This car has so much potential to be amazing that it hurts.
 
I liked the sound--it had me picturing a late 80s F1 engine behind the seats but with a pair of smaller turbos (mounted high, likely immediately below the exhaust outlets) instead of a single behemoth.
 
Man, Scuderia, you really did not enjoy the engine sound of the Peugeot at all,did you? I've seen you post that at least on three threads. And I understand your complaints, mind you, that area is a bit like the rest of the car; it has potential, but said potential isn't being used to its fullest.

Also, I've seen a tune for this car (from shawn80, IIRC), and I'm quite eager to test it out. This car has so much potential to be amazing that it hurts.
You noticed! I started a tune which needs a slight fettling but has improved it greatly despite me being pretty poor at tuning. I will check out the others too.
 
You noticed! I started a tune which needs a slight fettling but has improved it greatly despite me being pretty poor at tuning. I will check out the others too.

Well, I've seen at least two threads where you posted that (the GT-R LM Nismo thread and this one), so it's not that hard to miss it. It's simple, really.

And good luck with the tune, it'll be a bit difficult to tune it without much tuning knowledge, but I with you luck regardless. And I'll be testing shawnm80's tune soon enough.

Ok, onwards for tomorrow and the unveiling of the Tomahawk...
 
In my short time with the Peugeot I enjoyed it. It seems a little "loose" to me but it's not a deal breaker. My main problem is you can't repaint it:indiff:
 
I like the Peugeot VGT , it has a nice shape but I don't like the side window at all, so I painted mine in black, that made the car looks better :P
 
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