The Watch Discussion Thread

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Found the watch on the beech a few years ago, didn't even have to take any links out, and I'm still loving it.

I need to have a closer look at the trees I care for. Wonder what I would find hanging off a Ginkgo.

My latest story: I have been searching for that classic black-faced Seiko Auto recently. which is taking me into too many watch dealers. I happen to have a friend who is owns a watch mart (or is it the other way around? ;) ) and I dropped in to say 'Hi'. After a short conversation, in which he wanted some work done on a few of his display cases, he pulled out this Bulova.
I ended up walking out with it, and a much lighter wallet.
Need to stop looking for a cheap Seiko. This is costing me.



 
When the sand is hot, look down. People are running and not looking back. And I only saw the band in the sand. It was a great find. And to think I used to not wear a watch.
 
Very classy look, especially the blue dial over the black variant.

Does this mean the hunt for the Seiko is over now?

So I got the frustrating news today that customs here have seized my new purchase - apparently because it has a leather strap and that falls under the 'prevention of importation of animal products' clause somehow. I am highly annoyed as its a freaking Tag, not a piece whale or something.

Fedex are requesting information from the seller which indicates either they will come to their senses and realise its a damn watch and release it, or that they are preparing to slug me with some extra import charge based on its value on top of the prospect of possibly having customs remove the strap before I have it returned to me. :mad:

The seller is kindly offering a full refund for its return, but I think its too far in the system for even that now :rolleyes:.
 
Very classy look, especially the blue dial over the black variant.

Does this mean the hunt for the Seiko is over now?
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:lol: No, Mike, I think the challenge is still on. It's all this thread's fault. There are such amazingly tasty watches in here - and I'm a bit of a watch man myself; Time has always fascinated me. I remember taking apart one of my grandpa's mantelpiece clocks once when I was very, very young, to the consternation of the entire household.
Springs, cogs, bits and pieces spread all over . . . I'll never forget the screaming.

Thank you for the kind attention - approval from you about a watch is like gold; you are the 'Cano' of chronos. :sly:

I also was a bit of a collector myself in my late teens, and then later on into my twenties, but - as you mentioned earlier on in this discussion - collecting watches can be an expensive hobby. I had lots of Timex, Citizen, Seiko, Omax, and so on - the cheaper lines - though I always wanted a Rado. Then I came across a Bulova Accutron ad featuring astronauts - and ever sense have been enamoured of Bulovas.

About the Accutron and Bulova: (from a wiki)

"Bulova's 'Accutron' watches, first sold in October 1960, use a 360 hertz tuning fork to drive a mechanical gear train to turn the hands. The inventor, Max Hetzel, was born in Basel, Switzerland, and joined the Bulova Watch Company of Bienne, Switzerland, in 1948. The tuning fork was powered by a one-transistor electronic oscillator circuit, so the Accutron qualifies as the first "Electronic watch". The true accutron, instead of ticking, had a faint, high pitch hum which came from the vibrating tuning fork.

The tuning fork movement was a horological revolution. Previously, electronically regulated timepieces were limited to some scientific instruments, being too large for a personal watch.
The Accutron was also the first wristwatch precise enough to qualify for U.S. Railroad Certification. A wristwatch regularly moves in all possible directions, as opposed to a pocket watch which spends the vast majority of its life either mostly vertical or mostly horizontal. Prior to the Accutron, that movement affected the precision of all wristwatches to a degree which precluded railroad certification, even for the best made and most expensive chronometer certified wristwatches.
The ability to legitimately claim the Accutron as the most precise wristwatch in existence was a tremendous boon for the company. Unfortunately for Bulova, in 1969 the Seiko Astron, the first mass produced quartz movement watch, hit store shelves. Because the quartz movement wristwatch was easier and cheaper to manufacture, Seiko was able to sell watches just as precise as an Accutron at a much lower cost."

I understand that Citizen have bought the company, now, right?

However, I have owned many Seikos, and always been impressed by their terrific ruggedness - especially the 21 Jewel Autos. I wear a lower line Bulova to work, but my work entails a lots of carpentry, painting, drywalling, etc, and my overalls, arms, and even face get quite a beating from the dust, grime, alkyd paints, etc, etc. The Bulova I wear to work still keeps ticking along merrily, but maybe I'm a little tired of the same face - and I don't want to bruise one of my higher-line Bulovas - so I thought it would be nice to have a Seiko 5 or 7 back on my wrist, and I know I can trust its ruggedness - as long as I find a true original. I have had my arms up to the elbows in motor oil at times playing around with my motorcyle, and just wiped down the Seiko of that time with a turps-soaked rag, and it still kept going.
The challenge I have given myself is to find one at around $100.00, and not more. I have already looked over some beauties, but they are all in the $150.00 - $250.00 mark.

I got the Marine Star for 50% off, so it was an offer I couldn't say no to - it looks absolutely stunning IRL - my candid shots do no justice to the real watch at all. I have worn it once in public already, and everybody immediately notices it and gasps out compliments - it's that kind of watch. I always wanted a Marine Star in my collection - so that's that now. ;)

Talking about watches . . . I wonder if you are familiar with Romain Jerome's Moondust, and Titanic collection? I still can't get over them. Moondust on your wrist? The Moon Dust-DNA for insatnce is an automatic that features several space oddities - smelted steel from fragments of the Apollo XI spacecraft, strap made of fibres from an ISS space suit, and the dial is coated with authentic moon dust. Right. :crazy:

Probably the perfect watch to wear while in the stands watching a Shuttle lift-off.
 
Thank you for the kind attention - approval from you about a watch is like gold; you are the 'Cano' of chronos. :sly:
:embarrassed:. I don't know much, I just appreciate watches, wear yours in good health :).

photonrider
I understand that Citizen have bought the company, now, right?
Correct - if you have the automatic version, it will have the Miyota movement that is shared with Orient watches, I believe. There are hardly any American watch companies these days that haven't been taken over by overseas ones. Kobold is one (although their original 'big time' watch was a rip off of a Sinn) and Xemex comes to mind as exceptions.

photonrider
Talking about watches . . . I wonder if you are familiar with Romain Jerome's Moondust, and Titanic collection? I still can't get over them. Moondust on your wrist?
I hadn't heard of them so I had a bit of a look see - the Moon dust one is pretty cool, although I am am skeptical of how he would have procured any given NASA has it all. Did you you know you can get watches with meteorite rock as dials too?
 
Received my Raketa Copernicus (Russian: Paкeтa коперник) (c. 1990) yesterday and wore it to work today. Got a ton of comments on it, which is always cool. There's a couple watch-geeks that I work with and it now seems to be a bit of a one up contest to see who can wear the most unusual timepiece.

It's a little smaller than I thought it would be and it's loud, but I love the way it looks. It was number 2 on my "want list" after the Ventura I just bought. I kind of watch to get a bit more of a vintage Copernicus now too, as I know there are some that are some from back when the USSR was way more "Soviet" than it was in the early 90's.

The hands on the watch represent the sun and moon and it does make checking out the time on quick glance a little more difficult, but I rarely use a watch to tell the time. It's also a manual wind-up, I'm not sure how long it lasts on a full wind-up but I wound it at about 6am and it's still ticking at 8pm.

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That is cool Joey. Unique watch! Also, very sorry to hear about the customs trouble, Mike. Whatever come of it?

Reason that brought me back to this thead is this:



It used to look like this.(third one down) I hadn't been overly pleased with the metal band, I've been admiring Seiko divers that comes with rubber straps, so I took a $20 gamble on Amazon to see if I could make my old watch look like the watch I like.

As far as the looks go, I love how it looks. Unfortunately, fit is not good. I wore it all afternoon today, and it was OK, but I'm afraid it's not a solid fit.

Band width was supposed to be 20mm so I bought a 20mm strap. However, it is couple millimeter or so narrower, leaving tiny gaps on each end. Also, the end of the straps are so thick, they are rubbing against the watch case/body.

I might look around, see if I can find a similar band that'll fit better. These Seiko bands are nice, but I sure don't want it to come off accidentally.
Classy! Well done, Harry. I like it. 👍
 
That is cool Joey. Unique watch! Also, very sorry to hear about the customs trouble, Mike. Whatever come of it?
I have worked out with Customs and Fedex that if I meet Customs at the Fedex premises at the time they are going to seize the parcel, they will let me remove the strap and I can retain the watch itself and let them have the "evil" strap. I hope this will be monday/ tuesday. :grumpy:

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However, it is couple millimeter or so narrower, leaving tiny gaps on each end. Also, the end of the straps are so thick, they are rubbing against the watch case/body.

That's a pity - are you sure they sent you a 20mm lug width strap? It does look nice on the rubber; it give the watch a nice chunky look. Have you thought about a NATO strap - the great thing about them (apart from comfort) is they are dirt cheap so you can have a few different colour varieties.

Joey

Really unique piece there mate, I've never seen one like it 👍 Perfect size for your wrist too. How is its accuracy?
 
I have worked out with Customs and Fedex that if I meet Customs at the Fedex premises at the time they are going to seize the parcel, they will let me remove the strap and I can retain the watch itself and let them have the "evil" strap. I hope this will be monday/ tuesday. :grumpy:
Wow. You learn something new everyday I guess. :crazy:

That's a pity - are you sure they sent you a 20mm lug width strap? It does look nice on the rubber; it give the watch a nice chunky look. Have you thought about a NATO strap - the great thing about them (apart from comfort) is they are dirt cheap so you can have a few different colour varieties.
I just measured it, and it is 20mm. It's harder to measure the space on the watch case, and I'm just using a ruler, but it seems to be 22mm........ I just took at look at a cheap Casio I have, which still has original straps. There are gaps on that watch as well, it's just shielded by the cover(part of the case). On the Seiko, this cover is part of the band. Maybe tiny gap's not out of the ordinary.
 
I just measured it, and it is 20mm. It's harder to measure the space on the watch case, and I'm just using a ruler, but it seems to be 22mm........

It could very well be that the particular Seiko you have is 22m lug width. If you have the model number, you can google it and find out if you don't trust the ruler measurement. I use the 'ruler technique' so it is reliable though! If the lug width on the case and the strap are both 20mm, there should be no gap - on the contrary, it would be a very tight fit when it comes to actually putting the strap on.

Manufacturers love having inconsistent lug widths in their models, or weird lug widths (19mm/ 21mm when standard is 18mm/20mm/22mm) to encourage people to buy official straps.

If your Casio is 20mm, you could get a spring bar off the Seiko and the Casio and compare them. If they are not identical, the Seiko is not 20mm.
 
It could very well be that the particular Seiko you have is 22m lug width. If you have the model number, you can google it and find out if you don't trust the ruler measurement. I use the 'ruler technique' so it is reliable though! If the lug width on the case and the strap are both 20mm, there should be no gap - on the contrary, it would be a very tight fit when it comes to actually putting the strap on.

Manufacturers love having inconsistent lug widths in their models, or weird lug widths (19mm/ 21mm when standard is 18mm/20mm/22mm) to encourage people to buy official straps.

If your Casio is 20mm, you could get a spring bar off the Seiko and the Casio and compare them. If they are not identical, the Seiko is not 20mm.
I'll try googling the model number. 👍 Casio has much shorter spring bars. I might look into the NATO straps you mentioned, too.

Thanks Mike!
 
Really unique piece there mate, I've never seen one like it 👍 Perfect size for your wrist too. How is its accuracy?

Thanks! It's accurate enough, over 24 hours or so it lost a couple minutes. but since a full wind only seems to last about 28 hours I'm guess I'll be resetting the watch pretty frequently.
 
Finally, after a jaunt out to Fedex yesterday to remove the strap in Custom's presence and then having a stoush with Fedex for overcharging me on import duties by a country mile (I won), I now have the watch. Hoo'aaah! :cheers:

But it's 'nekid at the moment without a strap so no pics just yet. I got a quote from Tag for a replacement OEM alligator strap....it was enough to make the baby Jesus cry ($450) so pigs will sprout wings and fly over the Harbour Bridge before I pay that. I've ordered some calf leather straps from the UK and US, so it will be another 1-2 weeks before it sees the light of day for the first time.

Although I might have a strap knocking about in my watchbox which I can stand in....I'll check when I get home.

Hot damn I am glad this palaver is over with!
 
I got a quote from Tag for a replacement OEM alligator strap....it was enough to make the baby Jesus cry ($450)

Yikes, that's about double the amount I would have guessed at. :scared:
Happy for you that you finally got the watch though mate. 👍
I won't comment on the saga as you no my thoughts on it.

Cheers Shaun.
 
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My new strap arrived so finally, the new watch will get to see the blue sky after all the pain of the last few weeks! It was worth the schlep as it look amazing. I'll post some pics up on the weekend as I want some natural light to work with.

At the same time, I picked up a new strap from my grandfather's mint 1964 Omega Constellation which was passed to me last year. It had been in a box for the best part of 30 years, since his passing. I'll post some pics of it too :D.

Now I just need my new watchbox to arrive as the inn is now overflowing :embarrassed:.
 
Swatch Irony Chrono "Toxin" with date from 1999 for daily use. Made of aluminium. I really like the blue dial with the big, red chrono hand. It`s still a highly sought after model.

 
Wow, some of the watches in this thread are just:bowdown:.
I especially like the triangular Hamilton one posted a few pages back.

I think I have the most boring watch here lol.
Mine's from River Island for £28 for daily use. It's quite comfortable for me, however if your sitting in a quiet room on your own you can hear the ticking.








Sorry the picture quality isn't brilliant.
 
I apprenticed under a master horologist for four months last summer, repairing clocks and watches. I don't wear a watch daily but I probably have somewhere around thirty timepieces right now. Most of them need parts. :lol:
 
So, some pics 👍

First is the 1964 Omega Constellation which I got a new strap for. It was a pain in the arse to get the old strap off as the springbars had just about seized :ouch:. It took much cussing, but eventually I got it all ship shape :)

It's probably a tiny bit too small for my liking, but is some variety to my collection and a special piece anyway:

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Then, to the main course, which kind of speaks for itself :D

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Stoked with it, even after the hassle 👍

An embarrassing side note.....whilst digging through all my watch tools, I found a watch I forgot I had :embarrassed:! Long story short, its a dive watch I bought on impulse years ago and when I ran out of space in my old watch box, I tried to sell it, got no takers and then consigned it to an "out of sight, out of mind" philosophy and forgot about it!

Pics to follow, once I have it running again (solar powered hint FTW)....
 
Nice to see it's now up and running after the hassle mate.
Very smexy. 👍

Is the new strap a Tag one?

Cheers Shaun.
 
Nice to see it's now up and running after the hassle mate.
Very smexy. 👍

Is the new strap a Tag one?

Cheers Shaun.

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Nah, on principle I refused to pay Tag the amount they were asking for a new one, so I got a non-OE one from the UK instead. Its alligator embossed calf, but pretty high quality in itself.
 
Very nice Mike 👍! I'm digging the old Omega, I still would like to get one but it's moved down my list a little bit for the time being.
 
Mike, I like both a lot. The Omega has a lot of appeal. The collors make it classic.

The forgotten watch: Casio Frogman?
 
They are both beautiful watches, and especially the second picture of the tag because it shows how crisp it is. Out of interest what's the diameter of both?
 
Thanks for the comments guys :).

MarcoM
The forgotten watch: Casio Frogman?

Alas no...It's a Citizen Promaster Aqualand III

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When the orange hand isn't functioning as a charge meter on the solar power, it is a depth meter when one is under-water. It is a good looking watch, but I just don't connect with it [/firstworldproblems]. I need to try fit a NATO methinks.

I am not sure what to do with it as selling it won't net much once postage is included.

MidnightRider
Out of interest what's the diameter of both?

The Constellation is ~35mm including case and the Twin Time dial is 39mm (42-43mm when considering case).

It is an interesting observation of how watch size has changed through the years. I don't think you'll be able to find a non-dive watch over 40mm before the 70's. Now you'll struggle to find one under!
 
Being a fan of all things simple I've just asked my wife to order me this for my birthday.

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