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I sit corrected.
Evidently it's:
US department of defense > Chinese red army > Walmart > McDonalds > Nhs
Evidently it's:
US department of defense > Chinese red army > Walmart > McDonalds > Nhs
This is what Obamacare is going to do to our lives
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Danoff
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18 weeks is kindof a lot don't you think? When I needed a Brain MRI, it was 3 weeks, and I got the impression that they could have gone faster if needed.
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Somehow McDonald's and Walmart are the only ones that are standouts in efficiency in that list.
Which of those can you get in and out in under 5 minutes with product in hand?
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18 weeks is the absolute maximum you'd wait until your treatment starts. An mri would have to happen a lot earlier than that. Diagnostics aren't counted as treatment.
My mum only waited a similar time as yourself for an mri when she suddenly went deaf in one ear. And she saw a specialist a week or so before the scan.
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Side note, my local Walmart seems to be abusing its status lately, so much so that I've been going to Meijer instead. You the 5 minute question, and I answer McDonald's. When I go to Walmart I'm shopping late so 80% of the time I'm stuck standing in line longer than it took me to get my stuff. Seriously. Especially at night, when there are 30 registers lined up, 3 of them open, and 10+ people in each line waiting and waiting. Meijer, on the other hand, actually employs enough people to move customers and has self-serve lines if you're in a real hurry.
But I understand your point.
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This is pretty much relevant now as it was during the election when the article was written, but take a good long hard look at this chart:
When Obama was shoving this piece of turd through Congress, he was on the trail promising that it would cost American tax payers $900 billion over the next ten years.
Minor problem with that. The Congressional Budget Office, a supposedly non-partisan group, only estimates within a ten year span, so if a sitting president, or congress, wishes to manipulate the numbers to get a certain result, they can do so without the CBO saying that we were manipulated.
To explain this chart, Obama promised that Obamacare would only cost us $0.9 Trillion. Just one year later(after Obamacare passed), the CBO revised that number by a factor of 1.5. In 2011, it was revised again by $300 billion to $1.7 trillion. You see the pattern here folks?
It doesn't matter of 40 Denny's restaurants in Florida want to tack on a 5% surcharge to help cover their employee's healthcare, in fact, I would pay that amount just to keep average Americans at work instead of the welfare lines. I would rather blame Obama just for lying about the true cost of Obamacare.
When Obama was shoving this piece of turd through Congress, he was on the trail promising that it would cost American tax payers $900 billion over the next ten years.
Minor problem with that. The Congressional Budget Office, a supposedly non-partisan group, only estimates within a ten year span, so if a sitting president, or congress, wishes to manipulate the numbers to get a certain result, they can do so without the CBO saying that we were manipulated.
To explain this chart, Obama promised that Obamacare would only cost us $0.9 Trillion. Just one year later(after Obamacare passed), the CBO revised that number by a factor of 1.5. In 2011, it was revised again by $300 billion to $1.7 trillion. You see the pattern here folks?
It doesn't matter of 40 Denny's restaurants in Florida want to tack on a 5% surcharge to help cover their employee's healthcare, in fact, I would pay that amount just to keep average Americans at work instead of the welfare lines. I would rather blame Obama just for lying about the true cost of Obamacare.
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I think it is time to revive this thread.
I bought my health insurance right about the time the bill became law. Single male smoker in his 40s. (I have since quit smoking, thanks to the help of a dead friend that died of lung cancer and his wife that gave me his nicotine inhalers and gum after he passed. R. I. P. Rob.)
For the first year, 2010, I paid $289 a month. This is a $3000 deductible plan. The insurance company has not paid a cent for my health care.
The premium has gone up every year.
Starting in December my new monthly premium will be $417 a month. I am one of the lucky ones that will not loose my insurance because the coverage has not changed.
I have not been able to find out what the cost for an ACA (Afordable Care Act) policy will be because I live in Texas and we have no exchange and the Federal website still does not work.
BTW I still chew about 4mg of nicotine gum a day, so my insurance still considers me a smoker.
What the ACA has done to the company I work for is a whole nother can o worms.
I bought my health insurance right about the time the bill became law. Single male smoker in his 40s. (I have since quit smoking, thanks to the help of a dead friend that died of lung cancer and his wife that gave me his nicotine inhalers and gum after he passed. R. I. P. Rob.)
For the first year, 2010, I paid $289 a month. This is a $3000 deductible plan. The insurance company has not paid a cent for my health care.
The premium has gone up every year.
Starting in December my new monthly premium will be $417 a month. I am one of the lucky ones that will not loose my insurance because the coverage has not changed.
I have not been able to find out what the cost for an ACA (Afordable Care Act) policy will be because I live in Texas and we have no exchange and the Federal website still does not work.
BTW I still chew about 4mg of nicotine gum a day, so my insurance still considers me a smoker.
What the ACA has done to the company I work for is a whole nother can o worms.
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417 is just insane. That is nearly twice as much as the most expensive package I can get here in the Netherlands.
I've been trying to read up on the US healthcare system and Obamacare, but I find it all very confusing, and expensive.
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If you think it's bad now with individual plans being cancelled, wait until employer-provided plans are cancelled because they don't meet the Federal standards.
I think both parties have an axe to grind here. I got denied because of a pre-existing condition when I tried to sign up for an individual plan, even though I had been on that same company's insurance with my family for years.
The government is redoing all of this because they want the people who don't want to work to get free this free that so they can keep voting Democrat.
The law should be completely repealed. I liked it better before any of this went into effect.
I think both parties have an axe to grind here. I got denied because of a pre-existing condition when I tried to sign up for an individual plan, even though I had been on that same company's insurance with my family for years.
The government is redoing all of this because they want the people who don't want to work to get free this free that so they can keep voting Democrat.
The law should be completely repealed. I liked it better before any of this went into effect.
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Over 100k enrollees and 5 million cancelations later, GLITCH HAPPENS.
Obamacare in a nutshell ladies and gentleman.
Obamacare in a nutshell ladies and gentleman.
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Luckily in Texas @Chrunch Houston doesn't have hand his paycheck to the government, wait for them to dole it out and hand back whatever is left. He pays $417 a month for a service which he chose. Nederlanders don't have a choice whether or not to pay their immense taxes for services they may never use. The idea of choice is a fundamental difference between the capitalist US and socialist Europe. Sadly, that is changing rapidly.
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Every system has it's pros and cons. We are used to this system, and it works for us. Mostly.
You guys have a different system that seems to be not working to well for a lot of people, but is also just fine for a lot of other people.
But just to be clear, you guys are now losing your choice, and are forced to deal with this new system? right?
You guys have a different system that seems to be not working to well for a lot of people, but is also just fine for a lot of other people.
But just to be clear, you guys are now losing your choice, and are forced to deal with this new system? right?
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That doesn't end well when you are not insured, and waking up in a hospital bed remembering only the headlights...
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Losing your old choice if your old healthcare plan didn't cover what Obamacare deems "essential." Lots of people are up in arms over that stipulation because it includes coverage for pregnancy and pediatric care, even if you're 80 years old.
Obamacare is essentially the government mandating what has to be covered with government assistance given to lower income brackets. So, for my father, his healthcare will get more expensive to pay for me, a student in my late 20s (past the age to stay on my parents' plan) who will have his own government-subsidized plans to choose from.
I've looked over the plans available to me as a low-income student and they range from 70-200/month. Before this act the analogous plans were 190-300/month. I can choose which provider to go to.
Though I still haven't gotten the stupid website to work for me, yet.
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I just got my new plan for 2014. 130 a month, full dental plan and other goodies a young~ish person might need.
But the first 350 euro's of bills are for ourself to pay. Which goes by pretty fast.
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It's just reality and has been here for some time. There are lots of things we need to fix, cost being chief among them. ACA doesn't address cost. The second thing is the taxpayer burder to the poor/uninsured. It does attempt to fix this, but I don't see it working particularly well.Well, in these 2 examples Obamacare doesn't look so bad.
Socialism for all!
hogger129
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Obamacare was first proposed by Replicans.
No it wasn't. The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act was not proposed by Republicans. Either way, this law is a disaster. Many people, it seems, liked the old system better. It wasn't perfect, but it was better than this. People think government controlled health care = free and that isn't the way life works.
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What was done in Massachusetts = / = Obamacare.
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