Time Trial #63 880PP Formula GT/480PP Subaru Impreza

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Normally when they notice something like this they delete all the cheated times, I used special comfort tyres which can be accessed by hacking but they show up as sports hard.

Or shut down the event altogether, effectively ruining the fun for the legitamate players. Congrats to you, you have just earned your way right off my friends list and I have lost all respect for you. I sincerely hope you get yourself banned from PSN for such a low down, dirty stunt. If I had to chose, I would much rather sit behind someone who is cheating and keep respect as opposed to sinking to their level and losing respect among my peers. You have just sank to an all-time low in my book. 👎

 

[JK83]

PD takes care about cheaters. So just race and enjoy 👍
Why every TT has same discussion?

 

[Going in Hot]

O cargo, the drama. Anyway.

Maybe someone over there looks at this thread or the leaderboard and notices soon. Do they have an email address that you can communicate with them?

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

]O cargo, the drama[/B]. Anyway.

I logged into the Seasonal and it let me in with SH tires. Maybe someone over there looks at this thread or the leaderboard and notices soon. Do they have an email address that you can communicate with them?

Not sure what you mean by that, but I am just stating my rather strong opinion I have about cheaters. No drama about it.

 

[HMR Motorhead]

Thanks for sharing the tune Bandit, now I know the issue...me!

Are there any certain driving options that I might need to adjust maybe?

I know if I get a solid run I can get maybe a 1:14 but I tip my hat to those in the 11s, 10s and the 09s I saw! That's insane.

 

[BanditKarter22]

Thanks for sharing the tune Bandit, now I know the issue...me!

Are there any certain driving options that I might need to adjust maybe?

I know if I get a solid run I can get maybe a 1:14 but I tip my hat to those in the 11s, 10s and the 09s I saw! That's insane.

Well, I was using no ABS but the tune still works pretty much the same with 1 ABS. Just try to be smooth, focus on hitting the right lines and staying out the walls. On some of the braking points, especially into the swimming pool section you might need to trail the throttle while braking in order to stop the car from spinning. 👍

 

[DiersZee1]

I kind of wish they just had no tuning again otherwise things like this are bound to happen!

Been hoping that they kept it as is with PD supplied cars.

 

[Darkcraft]

Been hoping that they kept it as is with PD supplied cars.

I second that, seriously, with the supplied cars it was just : hit it and go, now I've got to hunt down some tunes in order to be a bit more competitive. Apart from the cheaters, it levelled the playing field. And as everyone was on the same car you couldn't blame the set-up

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

I second that, seriously, with the supplied cars it was just : hit it and go, now I've got to hunt down some tunes in order to be a bit more competitive. Apart from the cheaters, it levelled the playing field. And as everyone was on the same car you couldn't blame the set-up

Altho it doesn't really matter to me either way as I like tuning cars, I can see your point and agree with it. Things would probably just be better that way as far as a level playing field is concerned, like you said.

 

[BanditKarter22]

@IMMORTALPILOT great lap to go 8 tenths clear! 👍
Any chance we could see the setup, we don't know if it's just your setup that's so much better or if you really are such a fast driver?

 

[Johnar726]

I was looking through the times last night to see who else was trying a 22b and saw your excellent time 👍

I managed a 1.35.1 (I think) but my skill level will probably prevent me from going much quicker - won't stop me trying though!

Really starting to enjoy time trials.

Thanks man :-).

As of this morning I was the only person on the boards with a 22b. When I'm out of the top 250 I'll give the 07 Scooby a shot, after that'll ill go for the 10 Scooby :-)

 

[USARMYCOMBATVET]

Thanks man :-).

As of this morning I was the only person on the boards with a 22b. When I'm out of the top 250 I'll give the 07 Scooby a shot, after that'll ill go for the 10 Scooby :-)

Am I limiting myself by using the '94 WRX Sti @480pp?

 

[nowayback]

Or shut down the event altogether, effectively ruining the fun for the legitamate players. Congrats to you, you have just earned your way right off my friends list and I have lost all respect for you. I sincerely hope you get yourself banned from PSN for such a low down, dirty stunt. If I had to chose, I would much rather sit behind someone who is cheating and keep respect as opposed to sinking to their level and losing respect among my peers. You have just sank to an all-time low in my book. 👎

Actually Peasantslayer has done gt5 a service , by showing cheating can still be done. I believe, hope that is what he was doing. He pointed out in previous post about pbonellis time that it looked odd. He didnt have to come here and post he was cheating.

 

[ItsAllAboutWins]

@IMMORTALPILOT great lap to go 8 tenths clear! 👍
Any chance we could see the setup, we don't know if it's just your setup that's so much better or if you really are such a fast driver?

People like that don't post tunes.

 

[BanditKarter22]

People like that don't post tunes.

It was worth a try

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Actually Peasantslayer has done gt5 a service , by showing cheating can still be done. I believe, hope that is what he was doing. He pointed out in previous post about pbonellis time that it looked odd. He didnt have to come here and post he was cheating.

Really, because you can plainly see the tires that the other guy was using so there was really no need to show anybody anything as it was already known that the other guy is using the same tires as Peasantslayer, as he himself stated. Also, this is Peasantslayers own quote:

Just destroyed the Motegi TT with sports hards, hopefully that will make PD sit up and spot the likes of dedman100 aswell. I'm not sitting behind someone with lesser tyres.

The bolded part, to me anyways. clearly shows that he cheated in order to get ahead of the guy because, according to him, "I'm not sitting behind someone with lesser tires."

Now, since he even went and gave some idea of how he got the tires passed, other people may join in and do what he did and next thing you know, the leaderbord is full of cheaters. So, I'd actually have to disagree with you and say he is actually doing a "dis-service". There was no reason for him to do what he did, other than to get ahead of the other cheating guy. I am almost willing to bet that if it was someone else other than Peasantslayer, who is a good driver and a friend to many, you guys would be all over them for doing that. For instance, if it was me who would have done that, the haters would have come out of the woodwork to blast me , and you know it it. Sorry, I'm not giving him a pass just because he was a friend of mine.

 

[FordMKIVJ5]

Switched out to the '10 Impreza and only improved by .2 of a second, which was no more than I had left in with the '07.

I think with a tune for the '10 (at least an idea of power limiter/ballast/parts to use) I could go for a mid-high 32. But for the time being I'm using stage 2 engine and the sports cat. to bring it to 481pp then limiting back. Removing weight just seemed to induce a ton of understeer.

 

[Darkcraft]

I could be old-fashioned or something but to me cheating is still cheating.

As mentioned above, he didn't do it to show the rest of the competitors that there was a cheater among them ( apart from him, obviously ). There is a limit to the "if you can't beat them, join them" saying.

Even following the logic of doing others a favour by showing them it's still possible to exploit the game it would turn into a mess. Remember the hybrids in the online lobbies? Started fairly innocent but before we knew it they "infested" the normal lobbies too, ruining races along the way.

 

[Peasantslayer]

Or shut down the event altogether, effectively ruining the fun for the legitamate players. Congrats to you, you have just earned your way right off my friends list and I have lost all respect for you. I sincerely hope you get yourself banned from PSN for such a low down, dirty stunt. If I had to chose, I would much rather sit behind someone who is cheating and keep respect as opposed to sinking to their level and losing respect among my peers. You have just sank to an all-time low in my book. 👎

Earned my way off your friends list? Sorry I thought you had deleted me months ago. If I really wanted to I could have waited until the last day and not told anyone about what is happening. Sorry that I've cheated but hopefully it's for the better.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Don't forget, those cheaters and very fast lap times that seems impossible could have been caused by using grip multiplier, increasing it by 1.01 to 1.10 could be enough - affecting the car regardless of tires fitted, although it increases PP, it will increase corner speed, lateral grip, traction and stability greatly, in the hands of capable pilot, a lot of time can be shaved with less power or downforce used. FGT at 880 PP for example ...anyone who has access to the free tools can use the grip multi and it's hard to detect if a skilled driver involved.

 

[nowayback]

Like it or not, we now have proof that it can still be done, I dont know of anyone else who has admitted it.... not in the TT forum at least.

So who knows what % of the TT ers are using it.I would bet alot and it will only increase.I even thought my ghost was cheating as i couldnt come close to him.... after bout 30 min i realized i had ASM On!

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Earned my way off your friends list? Sorry I thought you had deleted me months ago. If I really wanted to I could have waited until the last day and not told anyone about what is happening.

Like I said, you didn't have to do anything. You didn't need to show us, as I'm sure somebody would have figured it out eventually. Not only that, it was already known, by most/some people, that he was using the wrong tires. We didn't need to know how it was done. Thanks to your explanation, I bet other people are going to start trying it now. All you did was lower yourself to their standards, which made you look like an ass as far as I'm concerned. You also admitted that you wern't going to sit behind someone who is using a better tire, which to me indicates you just wanted to cheat to beat him. If you really felt the need to put it out in the open of how it was done, you could have just told us or even pm'd someone, you really didn't have to show us by taking the top spot on the leaderbord. Now someone else will propably have to top you, using what you explained, and we will have a leaderboard full of cheaters. Well done.

@nowayback: Well, I don't like it and that is how I feel about it. We also already had proof, by the first guy that cheated. We didn't need a visual confirmation. You have your opinion, which I respect, and I have mine. No hard feelings toward you at all.

 

[Peasantslayer]

I'm not going to argue with you but you make it sound as if I've made a full video tutorial. Someone asked a question and I answered it in the simplest of terms.

 

[JK83]

Just destroyed the Motegi TT with sports hards, hopefully that will make PD sit up and spot the likes of dedman100 aswell. I'm not sitting behind someone with lesser tyres.

Good shot
Let me know do you have just result removed or account bann 👍

That is what everybody can see, but no one can't see Triple-plate clutch, Racing flywheel, weight stages 4&5 or Racing Catalic converter. And Im damn sure there is some guys using those.

 

[nowayback]

@nowayback: Well, I don't like it and that is how I feel about it. We also already had proof, by the first guy that cheated. We didn't need a visual confirmation. You have your opinion, which I respect, and I have mine. No hard feelings toward you at all.[/QUOTE]

Like it or not...was meant for TTers in general

Yup, just healthy discussion 👍

 

[jimipitbull]

Immortal pilot and these hacked tires demonstrate very poor sportsmanship.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Grip multi is also not visible, let's say someone reduced the dowforce on the FGT to add more grip to say 105%, the benefits of added grip via this method is superior to added downforce as it is in effect at all times - gives traction/grip boost, not just at higher speed. At a track like Monaco where low speed corner traction and velocity counts ... who know if someone is good enough to find the perfect balance of power/weight/downforce/grip multi to shave off a few tenths to be number 1 without inciting suspicion-it's hard to detect even in replay.

PD should have stick with no tuning FGT instead ...

 

[JK83]

Grip multi is also not visible, let's say someone reduced the dowforce on the FGT to add more grip to say 105%, the benefits of added grip via this method is superior to added downforce as it is in effect at all times - gives traction/grip boost, not just at higher speed. At a track like Monaco where low speed corner traction and velocity counts ... who know if someone is good enough to find the perfect balance of power/weight/downforce/grip multi to shave off a few tenths to be number 1 without inciting suspicion.

Grip multiplier doesn't work anymore.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

I'm not going to argue with you but you make it sound as if I've made a full video tutorial. Someone asked a question and I answered it in the simplest of terms.

In a sense, you did, along with your explanation of how it was done. Your explanation may have been vague, but the ones who are into hacking and know about that stuff, will surely figure it out and start doing it. Like I said, you could have just told us, you didn't have to actually do it in the TT. That would have been the simplest of terms. You only did it to beat the other cheating guy, which you even admitted, so you are not going to convince me otherwise. For that matter, you could have just made a video and then stop short of the line or even red flagged the lap at the end so that it wouldn't register if you wanted to give us a visual. But no, you had to go through with it and take the top spot. You have already proved to us in the past that you were more than capable of a top 5 or even a win, you didn't need to do it by cheating. I thought you had higher standards than that....guess I was wrong.

Let add, yes you did tell us you cheated (we would have figured it out anyway by looking at your details) and I do commend you for that, but that doesn't make it anymore less wrong what you did.

 

[Peasantslayer]

In a sense, you did, along with your explanation of how it was done. Your explanation may have been vague, but the ones who are into hacking and know about that stuff, will surely figure it out and start doing it. Like I said, you could have just told us, you didn't have to actually do it in the TT. That would have been the simplest of terms. You only did it to beat the other cheating guy, which you even admitted, so you are not going to convince me otherwise. For that matter, you could have just made a video and then stop short of the line or even red flagged the lap at the end so that it wouldn't register if you wanted to give us a visual. But no, you had to go through with it and take the top spot. You have already proved to us in the past that you were more than capable of a top 5 or even a win, you didn't need to do it by cheating. I thought you had higher standards than that....guess I was wrong.

I bet that time doesn't stay there, it might be a good thing if I tell people how it's done in detail so PD sort themselves out when they see the top of the leaderboard filled with sports hards.