Time Trial #74: 600pp GT500 @ Grand Valley Speedway

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Hey guys
For those people talking about wanting to learn the best lines and braking points.
Here is what i do i download 1 or 3 of the top 10 laps and i study them from my driving position.
Where they brake ,what speed and gear they take corner, the lines they use and how much throttle they use though the mid corner and coming out of corner .
I hope this someone .

CHEERS redness-63 (;)
 
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Nothing to it ...and you can't really stuff it up.
I just sent you a friend request
Accepted... now just need some quality time

I've managed to get to a 1:47.4 with the Mobil 1 NSX but everything I do after that seems to make it slower... I feel I am losing buckets of time in the 2 curved tunnels and a little under braking everywhere
 
Accepted... now just need some quality time

I've managed to get to a 1:47.4 with the Mobil 1 NSX but everything I do after that seems to make it slower... I feel I am losing buckets of time in the 2 curved tunnels and a little under braking everywhere


I have put up the Loctite Mugen 01 on share as well, you should be able to get in the mid 46's at least with the Takata Dome 03.
 
Takata '03, engine stage 3, clean oil with all stock settings (transmission, suspension, diff, brakes)
is good for 1:45.9, with room to improve

Approx 1 second slower than my fastest tuned time
 
I don't brake much for the right... I use all of the kerbing on left hander to give a wide entry to the 1st right, coast a bit, then down-shift to 2nd to create the rotation in to the 2nd right.

I think I might use a touch of brakes, but no more.

I only had a chance to do a few laps but, I was able to improve by a couple more tenths to a 01:44.392.
I was really going to fast into the left and messing up my corner entry.
I'm starting to think a 43 is possible for me if I can get a few hours free time this week.
 
I only had a chance to do a few laps but, I was able to improve by a couple more tenths to a 01:44.392.
I was really going to fast into the left and messing up my corner entry.
I'm starting to think a 43 is possible for me if I can get a few hours free time this week.

That's a cracking time if you're using auto gears 👍
 
That's a cracking time if you're using auto gears 👍

The best I have done while shifting is a 1:44.7. I'm told the automatic costs me some time but, I'm not sure how much so I don't worry about it.
I bought myself a wheel last Christmas and this year I think I'm going to buy myself a stand.
I think getting the wheel of my dresser and on a stand will help me have my feet in the correct position so I can learn left foot braking also.
Earlier this year I could hardly make two corners on a road coarse without crashing, lol.
I'm just so happy now to be able to see the #1 ghost as I cross the finish line.
I'm glad I found this website, all my girlfriends at work are getting tired of hearing me talk about my racing game, lol.
 
Ok, ran some laps following Doodles ghost today. (Thanks Doodle<3) it seems I'm mostly loosing out straight out of the corners either as i shift up or because i have worse throttle controll...

1:45:448 #263 damn that 250 seems close but yet soo far!
 
The best I have done while shifting is a 1:44.7. I'm told the automatic costs me some time but, I'm not sure how much so I don't worry about it.
I bought myself a wheel last Christmas and this year I think I'm going to buy myself a stand.
I think getting the wheel of my dresser and on a stand will help me have my feet in the correct position so I can learn left foot braking also.
Earlier this year I could hardly make two corners on a road coarse without crashing, lol.
I'm just so happy now to be able to see the #1 ghost as I cross the finish line.
I'm glad I found this website, all my girlfriends at work are getting tired of hearing me talk about my racing game, lol.

:lol: at the bolded part!

There are a couple of places I think manual gears help (though I'm not sure when auto changes as I've not used it for years)... down-changing for the 2nd right as previoulsy mentioned, and also for the right in the 2nd tunnel - for both of these corners, down-changing to 2nd early creates rotation (ie; makes the car turn in better).

Overall, manual gears are definitely worth learning as there will be cars where you'll want to change up early to help manage traction, or because the particular power band of a car means it's quicker to change up before the redline/limiter.

Personally, I think it would be worth you persevering with manual gears on this TT if you're only a couple of tenths slower - as you run more and more laps you'll naturally get used to the change points and it will become 2nd nature very quickly.

And left foot braking is definitely worth learning too - you can much more easily control cars that want to spin whilst braking and turning if you left foot brake. Using a bit of throttle at the same time as braking, or when releasing the brakes helps you manage weight transfer... if the cars starts to over rotate you can add a bit of throttle to immediately transfer some weight to the rear and stop the car spinning.

I've had a 'Wheelstand Pro' for c.4 years now... great bit of kit.

If you're running mid 44's on this TT using auto and right foot braking you clearly have some natural talent and you'll likely be a good bit faster when you make the switch 👍

Ok, ran some laps following Doodles ghost today. (Thanks Doodle<3) it seems I'm mostly loosing out straight out of the corners either as i shift up or because i have worse throttle controll...

1:45:448 #263 damn that 250 seems close but yet soo far!

Exit speed is the most important factor in fast laps!

He'll be faster on the exits as he'll have less understeer in the middle of the corner - less understeer means you use less steering angle, which in turn means you can use more throttle.

If you watch the top replays you'll see the really fast guys slide the rear of the car in to the corner - when they do this it gets the car pointing straighter earlier, which allows them to get the steering lock off eariler and use more throttle.

Try Googling 'grip circle'.
 
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@Stotty

yeah, I'm getting better at, it still a bit rusty from not touching my wheel in the longest time before this TT. But I'm getting back to my best and the car (Thanks your tune Stotty + some mods to make the back end more like how i like it) I'v finally reached my first goal for my Gran Turismo return... 1.45.126 which puts me into the top 250(as the only Norwegian aswell(added bonus)

I think from here on out i just need to break some of my mental barriers I think I'm hesitating on the throttle out of the corners as well as carrying a bit more understeer than conventional.

Thanks heaps for all the help guys =D
 
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The reason why I mentioned in an earlier post that dirty oil took part in my lap times is because my '03 Takata loses 7 hp (not much, I know) when the oil is clean with stage 3 engine tuning done & a mid-range turbo fitted.
 
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The best I have done while shifting is a 1:44.7. I'm told the automatic costs me some time but, I'm not sure how much so I don't worry about it.
I bought myself a wheel last Christmas and this year I think I'm going to buy myself a stand.
I think getting the wheel of my dresser and on a stand will help me have my feet in the correct position so I can learn left foot braking also.
Earlier this year I could hardly make two corners on a road course without crashing, lol.
I'm just so happy now to be able to see the #1 ghost as I cross the finish line.
I'm glad I found this website, all my girlfriends at work are getting tired of hearing me talk about my racing game, lol.

I think Stotty has it spot on. If you're doing those times using auto AND not braking with your left foot, you clearly are a natural. You should make the changes asap & your times will definitely improve even more. 👍

@Stotty: Nice tune, man. Thanks! 👍
 
I think Stotty has it spot on. If you're doing those times using auto AND not braking with your left foot, you clearly are a natural. You should make the changes asap & your times will definitely improve even more. 👍

@Stotty: Nice tune, man. Thanks! 👍

Hey guy's right foot braking is not much of a disadvantage I've had decent results over the past year and I've always used the right foot.
 
Hey guy's right foot braking is not much of a disadvantage I've had decent results over the past year and I've always used the right foot.
Right foot braking isn't a disadvantage at all, it comes down to muscle memory and with regular use the right foot becomes much more sensitive then someones right foot who would normally use the left foot and it evens out.

heck I know someone who plays Sims one handed(because he only has one usable arm) with H shifter on the G27 and he is probably one of the fastest Australian sim racers on Iracing.
 
Left foot braking is far better than right foot braking but left foot braking with more control that is my opinion.
 
I used suba1960's Takata Dome NSX and eclipsee's tune, the second tune in the post linked: Link
Thanks to you both 👍.

Only tweak I did is change downforce levels to 35/52, and brake balance to 7/9. Adjusting power limiter should give 534 BHP. I have done only a few laps on it when the time trial first started, so a bit hard to tell but if I was to guess, I think combination might be possible to do a time in the high 1:42's.
 
Hey guy's right foot braking is not much of a disadvantage I've had decent results over the past year and I've always used the right foot.

I'm sure you have. :) For me, I find the reaction time (getting off the gas & onto the brakes) quicker & as Stotty said, there are times when it's useful to be on the gas & brakes at the same time...
 
I can't see how right foot braking isn't costing her at least a few tenths or more at Grand Valley, the time it takes to switch over from brake to gas has got to add up.
You can probably adjust the transmission gears to shift were you want to with the automatic but, not being able to use a down shift to help rotate the car hurts.


WhoosierGirl, GT6 would be the perfect time to learn left foot braking and the manual transmission. Going to have to learn new physics so might as well learn a new technique too.
With only a year of experience and already placing top 50 times your not going to have any trouble.
 
Hello, I might have missed some update, but did they ban the hackers or did they just get bored? If they got banned I might feel motivated to do these trials again.
 
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Hello, I might have missed some update, but did they ban the hackers or did they just get bored? If they got banned I might feel motivated to do these trials again.

The recent update set all the hacked cars from their garages to default, so all the leaderboards are clean! 👍 Good luck!

I used suba1960's Takata Dome NSX and eclipsee's tune, the second tune in the post linked: Link
Thanks to you both 👍.

Only tweak I did is change downforce levels to 35/52, and brake balance to 7/9. Adjusting power limiter should give 534 BHP. I have done only a few laps on it when the time trial first started, so a bit hard to tell but if I was to guess, I think combination might be possible to do a time in the high 1:42's.

Nice time Saidur. I feel that a 1:42 is possible for me as well. I can beat Amo and Immortal in all the sectors, but can't string anything together. :grumpy:
 
GTPCARSHARE is my sharing account :) I believe I have you on my GTP_Orido as well :) Be sure to try the shared Raybrig, it may work well with Takata Dome tune shared a few pages back. For gearbox, be sure to hit close to rev limit in top gear at the end of main straight just before braking for the 1st turn. The raybrig shared has a basic tune on it that should get into 1:46s.

After a week off I find I've slipped well down the rankings with my Loctite 01 so I'd like to try your Takata Dome please. I've sent a FR to GTPCARSHARE.
 
I made a 1:47:029 with the Takate Dome 03, playing with a DS3 and a personal setup.
As I watched the leader's replay, it seems to me that he is playing with a very raised and loosen suspension, lots of downforce and tranny trick, but his shifts are precise, as he uses a lot of engine braking to keep the traction.

I know this kind of setup is good for race hard tyres, but it's really hard to hold it with a DS3.
What driving wheels do you guys use/recommend? I'm looking forward to buy one to improve my lap times.

Congratulations to doodlemonoply, who climbed again to top 10!
 
I made a 1:47:029 with the Takate Dome 03, playing with a DS3 and a personal setup.
As I watched the leader's replay, it seems to me that he is playing with a very raised and loosen suspension, lots of downforce and tranny trick, but his shifts are precise, as he uses a lot of engine braking to keep the traction.

I know this kind of setup is good for race hard tyres, but it's really hard to hold it with a DS3.
What driving wheels do you guys use/recommend? I'm looking forward to buy one to improve my lap times.

Congratulations to doodlemonoply, who climbed again to top 10!

I started using a Driving Force GT around 6 months ago and after getting used to it I haven't cared to upgrade.

DFGT+Wheel Stand Pro+comfortable office chair = :)
 
After many more attempts and a turbo change, I've found another tenth, so my best lap is now a 1:45.336:)

So I check the leaderboard and see that the top guys/gals have gained a few tenths as well so I'm no closer to the top.:grumpy::(

See you at the Valley!
GTsail
 
Would you share your car tune and wheel model and settings, doodlemonoply?
I have no idea on what wheel to buy and how to set the FFB.
But i may give a try with DS3 and your car tune.
 
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