Time trial cheating

[krasch27]

I have never seen it "realistically" demonstrated that it is faster to drift around a corner. You drift due to a lack of grip, a lack of grip equals loss of forward momentum, a loss of forward momentum means you are slowing down.

I agree with MustangManiac.. There is no way that drifting is the fastest method of driving a high powered, open wheel, wings & slicks, race car around a circuit.
Drifting is about big angles, tyre smoke, style(!?) along with a high average speed - a slight, four wheel slide when on the limit is not called a drift... Its called 'low downforce'!

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Yep the ending result in that video is. On somecorners it is way faster to grip instead of drift and others it is faster to drift than to grip.

Very important factors like they said was. The suspension and tires. If there was a tire that could take the abuse of both ways of getting around the corner you might just might see more drivers doing so but there isn't a tire that can.

Also if you need help learning how to drift let me know i can try my best to teach you. I drift on the wheel but i can help you either way.

I have been taking a break from racing for a bit but I do both. I mostly race GT500 cars (with being stock none of that 600hp bull crap. I like realistic GT500 not phony)

That video showed though that grip was faster in all areas and tried to show that drifting cars is not much slower than racing cars even if they have better power to weight ratio (Drift car used in comparison) but still looks in region of many seconds a lap slower judging by that video. Downforce and mechanical grip which all aids traction is key, not the opposite which is sliding around with little downforce and traction in terms of how to go fast.

If a tyre can behave like SRF, grip driving still should be faster as you are straight to the point, just drive more aggressively and with more steering lock to go faster.

I won't be playing much at all for like a year. I haven't tried to learn to drift yet and I think with practice I could become half decent at it but I prefer actual performance driving.


I also looked at the top lap yesterday, and it was far from drifting, only a few corners where there was oversteer on entry due to trail braking. Maybe a bit overdone and got away with it just about but might have lost a bit of lap time. Seems like sour grapes from OP.

 

[QB1o]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfOEJ-HZ1-Q

you can drift a formula car in real life and not die.

 

[Connoissuer]

I've pushed my car to the limits and I've only gotten down to a 1:46 with no ABS. I can't go any faster. So sad.......

 

[phil_75]

Honestly I don't believe it is cheating. Just because it is different doesn't mean it's cheating.

Here's a video demonstrating Grip vs. Drift in real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8b0SYKKMaQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

What it all boils down to is the tires and suspension.

And the point is realistically in some corners as demonstrated it is faster to drift through corners and others it is faster to grip.

What are you trying to prove with the vid?

The grip car would have been well ahead if that was in front, you could clearly see and hear he was backing off so he didn't hit the drift car!

 

[phil_75]

Honestly I don't believe it is cheating. Just because it is different doesn't mean it's cheating.

Here's a video demonstrating Grip vs. Drift in real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8b0SYKKMaQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

What it all boils down to is the tires and suspension.

And the point is realistically in some corners as demonstrated it is faster to drift through corners and others it is faster to grip.

What are you trying to prove with the vid?

The grip car would have been well ahead if that was in front, you could clearly see and hear he was backing off so he didn't hit the drift car!
Thqts why they didn't run separate timed laps cos the grip car would have easily won.
PD needs to sort TT's out, there is nothing worse than seeing a nice TT on a thursday then looking at the leaderboards and seeing all 2D's detuned on one and Suzuki GSX(?) detuned on the other

Power limiter and ballast should be banned for TT's, or just use non tuneable stock cars like arcade mode. quick easy fix!

 

[Johnnypenso]

PD needs to sort TT's out, there is nothing worse than seeing a nice TT on a thursday then looking at the leaderboards and seeing all 2D's detuned on one and Suzuki GSX(?) detuned on the other

Power limiter and ballast should be banned for TT's, or just use non tuneable stock cars like arcade mode. quick easy fix!

Agreed. There is so much potential with the TT's with just some very minor tweaking or a little forethought, but once again PD demonstrates a complete disconnect with it's hardcore customer base. The game of 1000 cars where less than a handful dominate almost every TT. Is it too hard to provide, on a regular basis, a single car TT? A no tune TT? Single make TT's? Street only TT's? Limits on power limiter use?

 

[BenBurroughs]

Whether this particular issue is considered cheating or not, cheaters will always, always, ALWAYS find ways to cheat. Look how long "glitch hunting" (not to notify developers, but to exploit) has gone on.

 

[Spazmaticality]

I managed a 1.48.xxx in the new time trial on spa which is still a good 8 seconds of the final time so I downloaded the replay, and the driving technique used by the faster drivers is far from realistic, I mean they are basically drifting formula cars round corners. Surely polyphony digital can do some thing about this cheating(my opinion).

Yea I really hate people like that but with video games theres always gona be someone trying to exploit something like that and glitches

What are you trying to prove with the vid?

The grip car would have been well ahead if that was in front, you could clearly see and hear he was backing off so he didn't hit the drift car!
Thqts why they didn't run separate timed laps cos the grip car would have easily won.
PD needs to sort TT's out, there is nothing worse than seeing a nice TT on a thursday then looking at the leaderboards and seeing all 2D's detuned on one and Suzuki GSX(?) detuned on the other

Power limiter and ballast should be banned for TT's, or just use non tuneable stock cars like arcade mode. quick easy fix!

You got the right idea!