Time Trial Discussion

[seadog777]

Yaaayy - got it down to 1:05.8xx! Scraped into top 40,000 🤣
This TT isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.......

 

[NTGSruler]

Yesterday i could improve my lap time a bit.

 

[Vule]

I tried the Escudo with the ASM last night but didn't improve anything, my best is still 1:02.497, the best I could do with the ASM is 1:02.774... But still, gold is guaranteed this time... I hope

 

[Gomario JSP]

I tried the Escudo with the ASM last night but didn't improve anything, my best is still 1:02.497, the best I could do with the ASM is 1:02.774... But still, gold is guaranteed this time... I hope

Tried it again this morning but the feeling is a bit gone, don't know what it is, full send feeling you nail a lap and at the end you are 0.800 slower then your fastest lap, still at 1:02.409, hoped to improve to top 1000 but the feeling has to come back then lol

 

[Vule]

Tried it again this morning but the feeling is a bit gone, don't know what it is, full send feeling you nail a lap and at the end you are 0.800 slower then your fastest lap

Yeah, the same feeling I had last night with the ASM The car is so crazy to control, if you run a lot of laps without the ASM, it just feels a bit strange with it, like you have the TC on, and it just slows you down somehow.

 

[rheinaoi]

After several days of trying, with daily incremental improvements, I'm in gold standing with the Turbo Hamster for now. 1:02:494

Surprising, considering I came in with a 1:05, brought it down to the 1:03s, then hit my skill wall.

I tried ASM as mentioned above, and got 0.030 better, but I didn't notice much difference. If anything, ASM made me reconsider my driving and push for more smoothness on throttle and trail braking in that nasty decreasing radius hairpin. Ditto for the sharp left before it.

The braking zone for the chicane monstrosity before the final two corners starts earlier, I know, but it still feels wrong. Kerbs are still death, but I'm begrudgingly used to that now.

My Turbo Hamster is pleased.

We got gold, but at what cost...

 

[Gomario JSP]

After several days of trying, with daily incremental improvements, I'm in gold standing with the Turbo Hamster for now. 1:02:494

Surprising, considering I came in with a 1:05, brought it down to the 1:03s, then hit my skill wall.

I tried ASM as mentioned above, and got 0.030 better, but I didn't notice much difference. If anything, ASM made me reconsider my driving and push for more smoothness on throttle and trail braking in that nasty decreasing radius hairpin. Ditto for the sharp left before it.

The braking zone for the chicane monstrosity before the final two corners starts earlier, I know, but it still feels wrong. Kerbs are still death, but I'm begrudgingly used to that now.

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My Turbo Hamster is pleased.

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We got gold, but at what cost...

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Ohmy, that livery is hilarious!, is it up for grabs?, becausei want it
Good job with your gold time!

 

[half_sourly]

After several days of trying, with daily incremental improvements, I'm in gold standing with the Turbo Hamster for now. 1:02:494

Surprising, considering I came in with a 1:05, brought it down to the 1:03s, then hit my skill wall.

Well done. Only 6.9% of drivers in gold at the moment, so an achievement worth celebrating.

 

[samppa_944]

Managed to get gold in the first time trial with Escudo at Alsace, when the car was released. And so it seems now too with the Escudo at Big Willow.

Did yesterday a 1.03.0 in a short like 10 min session, just tried to get used to the car again, and it didn't feel too bad, once I figured out how to keep the car from snapping. Always thought then already that gold was possible with more confidence in car and track.

Then today did like a 15-20 min session. After multiple tries managed one pretty good lap where I nailed every sector, 1.02.445. Don't think there is much more for me to gain, decent lap for sure. And over 3 tenths above gold time, which is quite a decent gap considering the short and relatively simple track in a very fast car, which means it is tough for anyone to make big improvements, once you get a proper lap in.

Surely enough for gold, with only around 4 days left. Also noticed that current gold time is only like 2-3 tenths better than the fastest lap in the World Finals at Monaco Nations Cup General Qualifying time that was used for Nations Cup Regionals (they had the same combo as current time trial). So it is tough to improve that lap, plus Vendetta is a good reference point in high downforce cars, I think he was world #1 in the Super Formula Time Trial at Fuji?

Only Super Formula (Fuji) and MP4 (Suzuka) time trials I have not managed to gold so far.

 

[ghskilla]

Two hours of making sandcastles later! I have about 2 tenths in me for sector 2, but I will call it a night for now.

 

[Barareklam]

Surely enough for gold, with only around 4 days left.

@half_sourly how about half time statistics?

 

[half_sourly]

@half_sourly how about half time statistics?

Tomorrow is Thursday, so tomorrow is Stats day. But, given this one is going to finish on Sunday, I might do it later today...

 

[Gomario JSP]

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Two hours of making sandcastles later! I have about 2 tenths in me for sector 2, but I will call it a night for now.

That is seriously quick!, congrats with this one!

 

[half_sourly]

Here you go with some interim stats. Pretty tough one all round, with a smaller proportion than usual of people in all three reward buckets and as a result, more than double than usual not getting any reward.

The second table is ordered by % gold. The averages in that table include the current TT, hence the differences to the first table.

A few days to go, but so far this is my best TT to date; I'm hanging in at 255 with a 1:01.790.

 

[rheinaoi]

Ohmy, that livery is hilarious!, is it up for grabs?, becausei want it
Good job with your gold time!

Thanks! The livery is not one of my creations, but it's still open to grab.

Content search for "molcar". The Escudo was the first one to pop up.

Here is a screenshot of the page with the creator's handle:

Well done. Only 6.9% of drivers in gold at the moment, so an achievement worth celebrating.

Nice... OK, I'll see myself out now.

I'm surprised that the % of drivers in gold is as low as it currently is. I have almost no memory of the Escudo Alsace TT; only that the Escudo was also running on racing softs. Did the Escudo have as much oversteer on braking + turn-in as it does now?

Two hours of making sandcastles later! I have about 2 tenths in me for sector 2, but I will call it a night for now.

After this TT, we all need to drop into the photomode section to show off our sandcastles as a group therapy exercise.

 

[half_sourly]

I'm surprised that the % of drivers in gold is as low as it currently is. I have almost no memory of the Escudo Alsace TT; only that the Escudo was also running on racing softs. Did the Escudo have as much oversteer on braking + turn-in as it does now?

I remember it being somewhat difficult, but not overly so. And I'd say Alsace is trickier with the two proper hairpins and a few other tight corners. Maybe the physics update since then has had a negative impact on the Escudo; unlikely given most other cars are easier to drive now. Or maybe Big Willow is just a beast.

 

[Gomario JSP]

@rheinaoi thanks! 😁

 

[Mike-ZENKAI]

After approximately 2 hours of struggling to stay out of the kitty litter and making a decent lap, I finally managed a (hopefully) gold time of 1:02,558 (with DS4).

Thanks everyone for tips. For me ASM did not help at all.

Still loosing too much time at the Balcony (turn 4) . With this kind of understeer it is difficult to be quick through there, for me at least.

@half_sourly, great to see your stats regarding the Time Trails

 

[Dolph Drago]

I decided to run tonight with ASM turned back off. Result? 1:02.454, a whopping improvement of 0.014!

The car didn't feel much different, honestly. Maybe I've just become used to it, because I didn't have any get-super-sideways moments.

 

[jontikis]

As I had posted a few days ago, the first part of tackling the Escudo-Big Willow combo set up high expectations as I managed to brake into the 1:01s quite fast with the controller. I still felt there was some time to be found - the sequence between T3 and T6 is the real killer and I can't take it dead right.

I loaded a faster ghost as usual and surprisingly I ended up with a 1:01.644 - currently sitting inside the top 150.

There's still 8 milliseconds or something near it to break it into the top 100. Could I make it? Maybe, there are 4 days to go.

 

[rev_hard]

ASM - ON and ABS - completely off results in reduced understeer/tendency to drag wide in high speed turns. Looking forward to the remaining few days of this awesome TT! 1:03:Xxx right now… looking to get my first gold.

 

[Gogga]

ASM off - 1:02:6xx
ASM on - 1:02:446
The ASM really makes a difference in the final turn.
Will definitely be trying to bring my time down further in the remaining few days.

 

[manou]

Personally used that livery :

(Credits to Loconas)

I even blocked the sun with my hand, just like Ari did back in the day ^_^

 

[Talon16]

Finally gave this a go yesterday. Was able to get into the gold time on one account (1:02.515) but haven't on the other account yet. Gotta say, this is - by far - the worst TT yet. I hate this car. Not enjoying this one at all. Will still push for gold on the 2 account for the credits.

Anyone know when this TT is actually over? On the PS it said five more days (as of yesterday) but on the site it says 12/12.

 

[mikeerfol]

Decided to try with ASM on after reading this thread, found half a second compared to my previous fastest time.

 

[seadog777]

Well, I found just over a tenth, 1:05.7xx but dropped out of top 40,000.... in fact dropped out of top 41,000..... 🤣
A course and car I just can't get to grips with but for some reason I've really enjoyed this one. I think my bronze is safe, half a million, thanks!

 

[Pizzicato1985]

I'm surprised that the % of drivers in gold is as low as it currently is. I have almost no memory of the Escudo Alsace TT; only that the Escudo was also running on racing softs. Did the Escudo have as much oversteer on braking + turn-in as it does now?

I got gold at Alsace with the Escudo but am struggling to break into silver on Willow. Just can't put every corner together on one lap as this car/track combo and I really don't get along. I'm 0.016sec away from silver and haven't been able to improve on that in 3 days! Maybe I should try TC or ASM, but that just feels wrong

 

[Gomario JSP]

I got gold at Alsace with the Escudo but am struggling to break into silver on Willow. Just can't put every corner together on one lap as this car/track combo and I really don't get along. I'm 0.016sec away from silver and haven't been able to improve on that in 3 days! Maybe I should try TC or ASM, but that just feels wrong

TCS or ASM are still helpfull aids now and then, i'm almost always off aids (besides the ABS), but sometimes i'm just a tiny bit faster with it, like the first Interlagos TT, i was alot faster with the GTR with countersteering on, and then i'm using it
So with the TT's i'm kind of switching witch setting workes best, it's almost always without aids for me, but in some cases they do help me.
With this one i could sneak comfortably in the gold range turning ASM on, but now ( like always?? ) on or off, i just can't match my gold time anymore but i'm not the only one with that problem turnes out.

Keep trying!, you got this

 

[ghskilla]

Thought I'd give some tips for this time trial. (ASM-on, all else no assists)

• Starting the lap from the final corner, take 5th gear and let off the throttle to let the front turn in and then full boost down the straight. By the time you start the lap you should be at around 179-181mph.
• Turn 1 I tap the brakes fast and let off quickly just at the 50m marker and let the car slide into the apex in 4th gear and straighten the wheel immediately for a fast exit.
• Turn 2 (long right hander) I go wide as possible on entry and still have about 50% throttle as I reach the first apex of the corner and don't use the brakes, hugging the inside and letting off the throttle to let the car slow itself down. I swing a little wide using the throttle to force understeer but I then let off the gas to recover front end grip, then turn in and start straightening the wheel out and just letting the car recover grip and swing wide out of the exit.
• Turn 3-4 (left hander into right decreasing radius corner) I brake fully just before the 50m marker, point the car just towards the outside of the kerbing and brake in a straight line while trail braking into turn 3. Careful not to slide in; I've found that keeping turn 3 as smooth as possible, hugging the inside kerbing, and getting on the throttle early sets you up for turn 4. Turn 4 is about keeping minimum speed as high as you can and getting enough boost early on to launch into turn 5. Smooth is fast in this section.
• Turn 5 I would dip the right two wheels into the dirt of the right kerbing and brake in a straight line towards the left apex, allowing the left wheels to touch the inside kerbing and using trail braking to get the car rotated towards the exit. Get early on the throttle out of 5 and if you're not taking turn 6 flat out in 5th gear you're losing too much time.
• Turn 8 (sweeping right hander) hug the inside. Escudo can take this flat.
• Turn 9 you can take it flat as the corner tightens, but let off the throttle slightly at max turn-in, let the car slow itself down, and shift into 5th once you see the inside kerbing on the right. Then, flat out towards the start line.

I have a busy weekend coming up, so that should be my final outing. Good luck!

 

[Nathan88]

Surprised to get into the low 1.02's.

The Escudo is a tricky car but rewards good driving technique. Even for pad players. Much as I enjoyed the MP4/4 and Super Formula, felt like I hit a brick wall extracting their maximum performance.