Time Trial Discussion

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Hello guys
Time to show off my recently earned medals, starting with the Focus/Atlanta combo:
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After turning CSA off and switching from ABS Weak to Default, I've suddenly shaved an extra 0.422 off my previous PB, which turned my "shaky" Gold into a much safer Gold.
Really liked this combo, although it became a bit frustating at times... Road Atlanta is already quite challenging on its own, then add this understeery and heavy AWD to the mix and you're all set for a whole lot of swearing, but when you do get it right it's just magic!

Moving on to Daytona with the Gr.3 class, this is where I am atm:
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Right... one thing I'm starting to realize after participating in quite a lot of Time Trials of all "shapes and sizes", is that TTs with racing cars just aren't my thing.
The main reason has to be skill, or the lack of it on my end...
Maybe it's because of the racing cars, which tend to have a much more "polished" behavior than their road-going versions, the top players always tend to reach even higher with them and post crazier lap times... the bar is always set VERY high, much higher than where my skills can take me.

With road cars, this isn't so obvious due to the nature of what we're driving so that's why I usually perform better at those Time Trials with road cars.

And of course, there's the "personal taste" factor... and as far as I'm concerned, I very much prefer driving road cars and really appreciate the challenge of getting to know them on the track, it's almost as if they have "personality".
Driving a race car... it's just a different kind of challenge.

To me, Gran Turismo is all about getting behind the wheel of road cars, trucks, even vans and ambulances! Sure the game always had some pretty iconic race cars and all that, but just give me a road car and I'll be happy.

Long story short: I won't be coming back to this one, the combo doesn't captivate me enough to go back, and on top of that, I don't see myself improving much more, so I'll just take my million credits and cash out.

How could I even spend any more time at Daytona when there's a Testarossa to throw around Brands Hatch? HOW?!
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Now this is more like it!
It's another tricky combo, and this thing also likes to understeer... and oversteer occasionally :lol:
Only made some 15 laps, but right from the start it has become clear that this time there won't be a Gold medal for me.
I know I'm making quite a few mistakes, but reaching the Gold territory might be a really tall order.

Still need to play around with my settings a little bit, I'm using TCS 1 combined with CSA Weak and a low Steering Sensitivity of 2.
Might switch to CSA Strong and turn off the TCS to see what happens.
 
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Hello there (summer's been as hot as hell)

I spent more time at Daytona and had 7 more cars test driven and into the current gold zone (1:46:7)

  • Mercedes AMG GT3 1:46:326
  • Porsche Gr3 1:46:450
  • Ford GT Race Car '18 1:46:417
  • Ford GT LM spec car II 1:46:262
  • Honda NSX Gr3:1:46:332
  • Honda NSX GT 500 1:46:534
  • Gt by Citroen Gr3 1:46:413

All cars on ABS weak and TCS 0.

To my surprise some cars I was able to get the gold as soon as after 2 laps, on the other hand the older NSX took me quite mileage to get a yellow lap. The Porsche was a nice ride, even with a terrible S1 I managed it. I forgot how good it was.
The younger NSX is the easiest of the batch to drive, not throttle problems it all.

I'll put the laps under the spoiler tab.




 
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Hi everyone - first runs this morning since last weekend and I was determined to get closer to my optimal before moving across the Atlantic to Brands Hatch. After collecting Cr.2M for finishing 850th in the Focus (didn't enjoy that as much as I thought I would) I hopped in the Viper to try and improve on my time from last weekend of 1:44.960.

Wasn't looking promising after the first handful of laps which were all a shade of crimson :lol: but perseverance is key and a couple of laps after a restart got me down to 1:44.845. Fantastic - replay saved, screen caps saved and I was ready to move on.... but the optimal splits still said I had some work to do. Two laps later and BOOM, quarter of a second up from last weekend - job jobbed! All my laps have been ABS weak, with no other assists.

Optimal splits for the 230 miles or so I've run on this event are 1:44.617, so to be just under a tenth off my best and just under a second away from the WR on a lap of this length (especially with that chicane) is quite satisfying.

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Saying goodbye to Daytona now... off to Brands Hatch! :cheers:

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What a weird combo - I would have expected Gr.3, Hot hatches or some lightweight sports car on Brands Hatch but certainly not a V12 Ferrari! Not that it matters though…just like Goodwood this is a track that I enjoy speculating rather than driving on.

Definitely not my best effort and the GP section remained a mystery to me. I usually just pray ahead of the corners that the apex is still there when I turn in 😂


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Minimal and Incremental. The 36s have been breached 😁. This thing really loves to sink into its suspension. Smooth inputs recommended.
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In other news, I took my alt account to Daytona to get a couple extra credits to prep for an upcoming enduro season. I bought IM tyres last and...
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We struck gold. Until I figured it out I was stumped how I was losing so much pace 😅
 
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Would you calm down a little please ! I need people around me in terms of lap times to feel a little bit as if I belong here. At this rythm you'll have your brand new spaceship next month !
Haha, thanks Lomic but I don't think so...

There's still plenty of road ahead of me, so no, I'm definitely not getting a spaceship anytime soon ;)
You see, I'm afraid of heights so I like to fly a little closer to the ground 🤣

You're not becoming any slower either, I've seen your lap times at Daytona... nice effort!

We'll see which one of us is getting the spaceship first (probably none, but that won't stop me from trying)!

My God, Time Trialing is addictive... and it really is becoming "rocket science" for sure :lol:
 
For the Ferrari Time Trial, I found weak ABS to be a slightly more favourable setting than default ABS.
Thanks to telling me that small bit of info, now I can blow this Brands Hatch TT out of this world. I won't stop until I get in the 1'40.000's; at least. The car is a pleasant one to drive, every turn feels smooth.
 
Had my first try with the Ferrari. These are not valuable right? I think I may have written off a handful in figuring this car out. That said, I enjoyed the drive.

I posted this for hopefully a safe gold.
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Later I discovered my throttle was stopping at 97.5% unless I really pressed hard. That has now been adjusted so I think I’ll have to give it another try!
 
Aliens don't need ABS, they have ASS.

Above Superior Skills; and that's the truth. They have more than average skills than the normal drivers of the game.
 
Thanks to telling me that small bit of info, now I can blow this Brands Hatch TT out of this world. I won't stop until I get in the 1'40.000's; at least. The car is a pleasant one to drive, every turn feels smooth.
Chris, ABS isn't the secret. Nor is Traction Control. I'd suggest you just settle on some settings, leave them alone and drive. Once you're landing in gold regularly then start worrying about the tenths of a second those settings might get you. Are you still using the triggers for brake and throttle and the stick for steering or have you gone back to buttons?
 
Chris, ABS isn't the secret. Nor is Traction Control. I'd suggest you just settle on some settings, leave them alone and drive. Once you're landing in gold regularly then start worrying about the tenths of a second those settings might get you. Are you still using the triggers for brake and throttle and the stick for steering or have you gone back to buttons?
Well I tried the new triggers for a few hours until I found it very difficult to adapt to, then I switched back to the face buttons( X and square). I'm focusing on silver territory for Daytona, gold won't be possible for me. I did score a 1'50.1XX time last night after 6 consecutive laps in the Viper, but that was pretty much it. However I find the first part fun to do, even though it's tiring at times. It's much more enjoyable than the Spa TT's.
 
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Well I tried the new triggers for a few hours until I found it very difficult to adapt to, then I switched back to the face buttons( X and square). I'm focusing on silver territory for Daytona, gold won't be possible for me. I did score a 1'50.1XX time last night after 6 consecutive laps in the Viper, but that was pretty much it. However I find the first part fun to do, even though it's tiring at times. It's much more enjoyable than the Spa TT's.

Adaption takes time. More than "few hours" as you said.

Learning new/different skills may not be something that happens overnight.
 
Yeah, I know. Maybe I should give it more time. Does anyone know of any Youtube users that might explain the details of this technique with the triggers? Because I may need to watch and keep studying those guides in order to adapt and gain more confidence during the harder TT's. I know gold is doable for many participants, but it's not a sprint earning that medal.
 
Does anyone know of any Youtube users that might explain the details of this technique with the triggers?
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You don't need a video tutorial on how to use triggers ! just use them, practice and stick to it, it will come with time (and quick)

You may be a bit slower at first but that's not important, it is not as if you were competing for first places of the leaderboard here or in the world.

You'll be faster later.
 
Does anyone know of any Youtube users that might explain the details of this technique with the triggers? Because I may need to watch and keep studying those guides in order to adapt and gain more confidence during the harder TT's.
There's no science involved here and no details to be explained, all you need is practice. Re-do the license tests with triggers. This allows you to practice the same sectors over and over again. As a side effect, you also see how you're progressing compared to your previous times with face buttons.

If you're not willing to adapt and step out of your comfort zone for more than a few hours, you will never improve.

Edit: @Lomic beat me to it :)
 
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Yeah, I know. Maybe I should give it more time. Does anyone know of any Youtube users that might explain the details of this technique with the triggers? Because I may need to watch and keep studying those guides in order to adapt and gain more confidence during the harder TT's. I know gold is doable for many participants, but it's not a sprint earning that medal.
You're not going to get anywhere if you keep switching things around. Put ABS on weak. Leave all the other settings (TC and the rest) off. Use the left analog stick for steering. Use L2 trigger for braking. Use R2 trigger for throttle. I think you mentioned a while back you had L2 for throttle and R2 for braking...I'd recommend the reverse. You'll be holding the throttle down a lot more than the brake so you might as well use the right side for throttle since you're always going to be steering with the left hand. Makes sense to spread the workload between both hands as much as possible. Then, leave those settings and don't even worry about your times...just drive for days and days and days without changing anything. You'll get used to it and you'll wonder why you spent so many years tap tap tapping buttons.

Once you get comfortable with that, then add Manual transmission to the equation using buttons for gear shifting (I use triangle for UP and square for DOWN shift)
 
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So I had to come back here to show you guys my improvement at Brands Hatch:
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Two fundamental changes on my settings: increased the Steering Sensitivity from 2 to 3, and changed the color of my rental from metallic black to metallic blue (by the way, the Testarossa has some pretty cool colors too!).

... and all of a sudden, everything started to make more sense with the Italian Wedge.

Ok, I have to be honest about this: seeing @skydragon49 comments about braking early and just adopting a more "patient" approach really made the difference. This is the way to go.

In fact, it all went so good that I was able to improve my PB by a whopping 1,021 seconds!!

Which means that my statement from yesterday might not be so accurate anymore:
(...)
Only made some 15 laps, but right from the start it has become clear that this time there won't be a Gold medal for me.
I know I'm making quite a few mistakes, but reaching the Gold territory might be a really tall order.
I'm not saying Gold is or isn't on the cards for me, but now at least I'm much closer to it!
And I'm yet to try the Ferrari with CSA Strong and no TCS, it might just give me the edge.
Fingers crossed, I really want to conquer those missing 4 tenths and cross the border 🤞
 
So I had to come back here to show you guys my improvement at Brands Hatch:

Two fundamental changes on my settings: increased the Steering Sensitivity from 2 to 3
2 -3? That's pretty low...have you tried higher? I find anything much less than 5 or 6 pretty sloppy feeling. 7 is about perfect I find...
 
Hello guys
Time to show off my recently earned medals, starting with the Focus/Atlanta combo:
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After turning CSA off and switching from ABS Weak to Default, I've suddenly shaved an extra 0.422 off my previous PB, which turned my "shaky" Gold into a much safer Gold.
Really liked this combo, although it became a bit frustating at times... Road Atlanta is already quite challenging on its own, then add this understeery and heavy AWD to the mix and you're all set for a whole lot of swearing, but when you do get it right it's just magic!

Moving on to Daytona with the Gr.3 class, this is where I am atm:
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Right... one thing I'm starting to realize after participating in quite a lot of Time Trials of all "shapes and sizes", is that TTs with racing cars just aren't my thing.
The main reason has to be skill, or the lack of it on my end...
Maybe it's because of the racing cars, which tend to have a much more "polished" behavior than their road-going versions, the top players always tend to reach even higher with them and post crazier lap times... the bar is always set VERY high, much higher than where my skills can take me.

With road cars, this isn't so obvious due to the nature of what we're driving so that's why I usually perform better at those Time Trials with road cars.

And of course, there's the "personal taste" factor... and as far as I'm concerned, I very much prefer driving road cars and really appreciate the challenge of getting to know them on the track, it's almost as if they have "personality".
Driving a race car... it's just a different kind of challenge.

To me, Gran Turismo is all about getting behind the wheel of road cars, trucks, even vans and ambulances! Sure the game always had some pretty iconic race cars and all that, but just give me a road car and I'll be happy.

Long story short: I won't be coming back to this one, the combo doesn't captivate me enough to go back, and on top of that, I don't see myself improving much more, so I'll just take my million credits and cash out.

How could I even spend any more time at Daytona when there's a Testarossa to throw around Brands Hatch? HOW?!
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Now this is more like it!
It's another tricky combo, and this thing also likes to understeer... and oversteer occasionally :lol:
Only made some 15 laps, but right from the start it has become clear that this time there won't be a Gold medal for me.
I know I'm making quite a few mistakes, but reaching the Gold territory might be a really tall order.

Still need to play around with my settings a little bit, I'm using TCS 1 combined with CSA Weak and a low Steering Sensitivity of 2.
Might switch to CSA Strong and turn off the TCS to see what happens.
Wow our pace is very, very similar. The two right handers at Daytona really drive me nuts, I just never feel comfortable with them.

On the trigger discussion, as a long time dpad user I have zero idea how anyone uses triggers, I found them insanely hard, just impossible. So, so sensitive it was crazy hard.
 
Wow our pace is very, very similar. The two right handers at Daytona really drive me nuts, I just never feel comfortable with them.

On the trigger discussion, as a long time dpad user I have zero idea how anyone uses triggers, I found them insanely hard, just impossible. So, so sensitive it was crazy hard.
again, give it time...(days and weeks not hours)

think of it like this - imagine driving your real car with an ON/OFF switch instead of a pedal for throttle and brake.
 
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