Time Trial Discussion

[NevilleNobody]

Hope you lap faster than Checo mate.

 

[Dan_Tes]

Yesterday, I watched the replay of K. de Bruin.
I know that these aliens are capable of anything, but frankly I do not see where it would be possible to earn 0.100 compared to its lap.
The braking at the Good Year chicane is very late and the traction on exit very good.
At the chicane della Roggia, go beyond and I think it’s a invalidated lap.
Lesmo 1 is at the edge of the curbs.
Lesmo 2 touches the curb and the exit is wide.
The Ascari variant is insane (without TCS) !
There may be variations to the Curva Parabolica but I have a doubt.
I hope it stays that way.

I always find the WR laps are generally a work of art, K De Bruin especially as he has a really nice smooth driving style; sometimes it seems like the track limits are not possible but they are on the last millimetre of legal tarmac… the skill level is off the scale. It’s an honour following people like this and we are lucky enough to have world top 10 drivers like @Metalgear9493 and @jontikis to follow on various TTs. An absolute privilege

(hello from Kazakhstan, I’ll be back Sunday)

 

[crome]

It would appear that I am relegated to the poor side of the alien adjacent neighborhood on the appliance time trial.

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I wish my list looked like yours 🤣

But yeah, 9 players within the span of not even a tenth, crazy. There's no "poor side" to be found here, this list could be in any order.

Something's off with your screenshot btw, it's barely legible, at least with the dark theme.

 

[Vule]

(hello from Kazakhstan, I’ll be back Sunday)

If you're coming to Belgrade soon or at any point in the future, just let me know a day in advance, we can have a coffee at the airport or wherever

/offtopic

 

[Stormbreaker]

Get in there!!!!! nice result with the IONIQ even if they forgot to put on the brakes on this car 🤣
In the last chicane i went ALL IN and gained a tenth, all or nothing!! 💣🏁

 

[feral and bad]

Something's off with your screenshot btw, it's barely legible, at least with the dark theme.

I need to find a better way to deal with the site's software. Before I tried to use html in an attachment, but it wouldn't allow it. Knowing this, I have been just using picture type attachments. I tried to use just plain text for the list I created, but the site kept wiping out the formatting. The result that I posted was print to pdf, convert to jpeg and post the picture. At the end of the fight, I just accepted the result. Next time I try and do something, I'll pick a better font or something.

Regards,
Ken

 

[imChris]

If you use full lock, the steering will "stick" in that position. So, if you use high sensitivity, the steering gets to full lock faster and takes an age to wind off, making chicanes impossible. That leaves you trying to find the balance between having a fast enough steering response to make the corner without horrible understeer vs hitting full lock and getting that horrible delay in the lock coming off. There have been several challenges where I think pausing to change the steering sensitivity part way around the lap may have been worth a try.

Used this advice and managed to improve some more. I'm still struggling with the steering "sticking" during chicanes/esses, but this advice certainly helped

 

[LSFDRX]

It's been a while since I did a TT. Not enough time to work at them, so I've been just knocking out the weekly races and that's about it.

I was super excited for the I5N, but the lack of a manual mode and F-R torque adjustment took a lot of wind out of that sail.

Of course a 4,600lb car needs SH tires and the tightest track on offer! It's strange how this thing "decides" to shift power to the rear in some cases, and understeer in others, and the brakes... whoo boy, I have to press the pedal deeep into the bumpstop to get this thing to slow down.

I'm still miles off pace, but was surprised to see where I landed on the leaderboard. Thought a mid-37 would be way farther down.

There's time to find, but I don't know if I'll get around to it.

As always, you guys are FAST here! GTP players continue to exist at the top of the charts! Keep up the quick work guys.

 

[crome]

I know many of you guys focus on Monza and are largely ignoring the IONIQ TT, but honestly I really enjoy it. It's just a very relaxed drive (especially compared to the F3500 madness). Yeah, the car is heavy and the brakes are weak, but it's also very predictable and at the same time complex enough for a good practice of precise and smooth inputs.

Plus my hypothesis is that whatever comes next tomorrow will immediately grab the attention of most players (including mine, as usual 😉), so a good placement now will hopefully carry over until the end of the event 🤞

So here we are:

Enough for top 100 already? Maybe. The S2 split of 1:03.455 was my best ever, with a very good S3 this could even have been a mid to low 1:36.6. But let's not get greedy.

@Gomario JSP too bad you can't really compete with that battery drop off glitch of yours, you had so many promising attempts already. FWIW, this has never happened to me a single time, maybe it's really a controller issue somehow? Although apparently others were affected by this as well, including wheel users. 🤷

Also just to repeat once again: if you're using a wheel and are annoyed by the need for constant overtake, map it to the upshift paddle. Feels very comfortable and natural.

Spoiler: The lap

Happy lapping friends, CU at the next event! Let's hope for @Barareklam 's sake (and mine as well, although for very different reasons) that it's not on dirt or snow

 

[Gogga]

Hi everyone.
Been a rough two weeks for me. It's tax season and I'm drowning. Also been out with the nastiest summer flu that won't leave 🤧

Wow this Monza TT is tough. I started on Monday evening with a time of 1:25.851. On Tuesday evening I dropped that time by 2 10ths.

This is me for now. My optimal times are closer to gold but still far away. Throwing in the towel here.

 

[330_D]

Hi everyone.
Been a rough two weeks for me. It's tax season and I'm drowning. Also been out with the nastiest summer flu that won't leave 🤧

Wow this Monza TT is tough. I started on Monday evening with a time of 1:25.851. On Tuesday evening I dropped that time by 2 10ths.

This is me for now. My optimal times are closer to gold but still far away. Throwing in the towel here.

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I struggled a lot harder than I usually do here.

Glad to see your name on the board. Keep swimming!

 

[linksracer]

How it started:

How its going:

Didn't really get to give the F3500 a proper go as I had a really busy week. As you can see, had to stay up a little late to get the lap in (time is AM not PM). About 20km in, I was 1 millisecond away from gold , after another 120km and 30 minutes, I had what I hope is a safe gold.

Definitely left a lot of time on the table here, optimum was a .3 but even those sectors weren't that good.
My biggest trouble here was the kerbs and track limits. This car does not like riding kerbs at all, which is kind of required to get a good lap time here. Any slight deviation from the optimal line through the kerbs will cause it to be a pogo stick. In particular I had significant trouble with the second chicane and Ascari.
Also for some reason was having trouble getting the turn in right for the second Lesmo. On my best lap, this cost me probably 2 tenths just in that corner alone. I may have been braking too late or not trail braking sufficiently.

Didn't have too much trouble with the wheel spin, just exiting in 3rd/4th gear on most corners was enough to control that. Was able to run with no assists other than ABS and only had a few spins, but mostly they were after I'd already made a mistake hitting a kerb or going wide anyway.

At least the car looks and sounds phenomenal, but definitely not something you can just jump in and drive. Would've been nice to give this a bit more of an attempt, but oh well, onto the Ioniq!

 

[Metalgear9493]

I always find the WR laps are generally a work of art, K De Bruin especially as he has a really nice smooth driving style; sometimes it seems like the track limits are not possible but they are on the last millimetre of legal tarmac… the skill level is off the scale. It’s an honour following people like this and we are lucky enough to have world top 10 drivers like @Metalgear9493 and @jontikis to follow on various TTs. An absolute privilege

(hello from Kazakhstan, I’ll be back Sunday)

Cheers for the mention.

I have a very different way of approaching a TT. I try and solve it with mathematics. This means I never drive by 'feel'.

I use speed readings during corners. Registering these readings on the fly enables me to turn the wheel extremely precisely to minimise unwanted understeer, the ultimate lap time destroyer.

 

[A_Higher_Place]

Cheers for the mention.

I have a very different way of approaching a TT. I try and solve it with mathematics. This means I never drive by 'feel'.

I use speed readings during corners. Registering these readings on the fly enables me to turn the wheel extremely precisely to minimise unwanted understeer, the ultimate lap time destroyer.

I have been vindicated! My team laughed when I said I did this. Though I'm clearly not as quick as you at it, it is satisfying to know that, during a corner at speed X, I can open the wheel up X much at X point. Glad that others do the same!

 

[ZevZoq]

Yesterday, I watched the replay of K. de Bruin.
I know that these aliens are capable of anything, but frankly I do not see where it would be possible to earn 0.100 compared to its lap.
The braking at the Good Year chicane is very late and the traction on exit very good.
At the chicane della Roggia, go beyond and I think it’s a invalidated lap.
Lesmo 1 is at the edge of the curbs.
Lesmo 2 touches the curb and the exit is wide.
The Ascari variant is insane (without TCS) !
There may be variations to the Curva Parabolica but I have a doubt.
I hope it stays that way.

lol, never underestimate the aliens.

 

[luv2drive]

So close, yet so far!! Ran a stint in this car but ended the evening in silver. Came back to fight another day. This time was a gold time yesterday, but alas, it's oh so short today... 0.053!

Not sure if I'll have time to come back for one more try before the clock expires later.

This one was tougher than I thought it would be!

 

[rheinaoi]

One last session for me. I am done pushing.

Klingons will write an opera about this Monza TT and the valiant driving feats and determination you all have shown here! I may just slip in several verses about how I feel about the F3500-A...

👀

 

[crome]

This next one looks like fun! Racing Hard.

 

[nickf1gr]

There are so many nice tracks.....

 

[Uday9479]

The Strassenversion is one of my absolute favorite cars in the game + RH tires will do it justice around this twisty track. Already drove a few laps to get a feel for a modest 1:57:8xx.

This should be a fun TT. I'll prefer Alsace over some traditional circuits though.

 

[Gomario JSP]

And another great lap eaten by the loose wiring of the devils battery vehicle.....

Well......this is kind of ironic...or scary at the same time.....

Very bad S1 by the way beeing a .6xx....which did compromise S2 beeing a .495 while the fastest this morning was a .302 but licked the bollard on the chicane 🫣

About 1 or 2 laps out of 10 I had no problem with dipping power so a big lottery ....I'm done 🤣

@crome well done buddy good chance that will stick, competition is brutal as always with you 🤣🙏🙏

 

[NicoGmbh]

Thanks to @Dan_Tes , we know the secret techniques of @Metalgear9493 and @A_Higher_Place !

Sure enough, I’ll use your techniques to turn me into an alien... by looking at my speedometer instead of the track, at the next curb, I’ll take off for Mars faster than Elon Musk 😂

More seriously, you guys are impressive at the top of the ranking. 🚀👩‍🚀🚀

Gongrats !!!


@Dan_Tes , I’ve been using my G Pro for 2 months now.

I did not find that the update 1.55 should make me change my settings in depth.

Last night, I lowered my sensitivity FFB (6 to 1). I gained in ease to enter the chicanes of Monza, but on the other hand I found that I lost some information that became too subtle for my taste.

I arrived at an opt. .24.281 (without being able to validate it) with only a single sector better than during my previous sessions with a setting of 6.

When you return, I’m interested to know if you have made any adjustments since the update. 😉

 

[Lightpilgrim]

First of all, CONGRATS to all folks that managed to get Gold in Monza F3500 TT. You are very-very skilled!

In my case, the best lap I was able to do was 1.27.4 which was 0.5 sec off SILVER. Shame, but this is the real assessment of my current skills and experience.

I need some help and suggestions. Maybe you have an idea how I can improve.

Quick summary:
I started playing GT7 in Dec 2024. I do not have any experience with Sim racing or games in general. I used to have PS1 long-long time ago and now decided to get PS5 Pro because of GT7 and F1 games. F1 is disaster, GT7 is phenomenal!

I play with a controller. For F3500 Monza TT my first laps were on 1.32-1.31. I have improved quickly to low 1.29 and high 1.28. It too me longer to get below 1.28 and get 1.27.9. Then I just struggled with improving my lap time. I was able to get 1.27.4 and regularly be high 1.27, but I just have no idea what to do to get 1-2 sec faster.

My settings were: TC - 3, Auto Gearbox, gamepad sensitivity - 4. I tried multiple things and did follow a ghost but did not manage to improve.

Now the TT is over. I think I am able to just take F3500 to Monza and practice. I want to find a way to get to where Silver and Gold was.

Any practical suggestions and help you can give? Truly appreciate it!

 

[crome]

@Lightpilgrim welcome on board, first of all.

I am sure you'll get plenty of more practical tips in here, but my general one is this: be patient with yourself. These time trials are some of the hardest challenges GT7 has to offer, and this one was especially hard. And I am talking about objective numbers here:

So getting close to silver after only spending a month or so in the game is actually a phenomenal achievement. You have a bright future ahead of you, just give it some time

 

[NicoGmbh]

@Lightpilgrim

In my case, I made progress with 3 tips:

• #1 practice
• #2 practice
• #3 practice

I think the TT challenge is the best place for that, without the chaos of online racing.

The variety of events forces you to change your vehicle type and track to benefit from your overall skills.

To complete and whatever the material you use:

- @Tidgney 's guide is a great way to discover a track you don’t know. It gives you visual markers and helpful tips. With training, you will certainly adjust with your own visual markers.

- in addition to the TCS by car, test the CSA to estimate if this represents an aid for you (for a long time my best performance at pad - Dino/ Sardena - was held with the CSA enabled).

- start with ghosts that aren’t too fast for you, set to +0.3, then take a faster one as you progress. This allowed me to identify the areas where I am weak, my trajectory errors, my weaknesses in traction, my lack of commitment in the face of certain difficulties.

- stay tuned to what’s happening here, you will find top drivers who regularly share the little things useful to be fast.

 

[Lightpilgrim]

Thanks a lot for the answers and encouragement!!!

 

[Barareklam]

Used this advice and managed to improve some more. I'm still struggling with the steering "sticking" during chicanes/esses, but this advice certainly helped
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@250Cal "If you use full lock, the steering will "stick" in that position. So, if you use high sensitivity, the steering gets to full lock faster and takes an age to wind off, making chicanes impossible. That leaves you trying to find the balance between having a fast enough steering response to make the corner without horrible understeer vs hitting full lock and getting that horrible delay in the lock coming off. There have been several challenges where I think pausing to change the steering sensitivity part way around the lap may have been worth a try."

wait wait two of you... have you really been stopping mid-lap to go in settings and change sensitivity per-turn (sector) or you just changed sensitivity to something you found good for whole lap? ( I have seen people change TC mid-lap and also brake balance too, but not sensitivity)

 

[Hiropairippu]

How FUN is this Porsche Alsace!!!!!!!

I love it.

Enjoy my Gold reference please. I try to put a bit of fun in my streaming laps.

 

[Barareklam]

First of all, CONGRATS to all folks that managed to get Gold in Monza F3500 TT. You are very-very skilled!

In my case, the best lap I was able to do was 1.27.4 which was 0.5 sec off SILVER. Shame, but this is the real assessment of my current skills and experience.

I need some help and suggestions. Maybe you have an idea how I can improve.

Quick summary:
I started playing GT7 in Dec 2024. I do not have any experience with Sim racing or games in general. I used to have PS1 long-long time ago and now decided to get PS5 Pro because of GT7 and F1 games. F1 is disaster, GT7 is phenomenal!

I play with a controller. For F3500 Monza TT my first laps were on 1.32-1.31. I have improved quickly to low 1.29 and high 1.28. It too me longer to get below 1.28 and get 1.27.9. Then I just struggled with improving my lap time. I was able to get 1.27.4 and regularly be high 1.27, but I just have no idea what to do to get 1-2 sec faster.

My settings were: TC - 3, Auto Gearbox, gamepad sensitivity - 4. I tried multiple things and did follow a ghost but did not manage to improve.

Now the TT is over. I think I am able to just take F3500 to Monza and practice. I want to find a way to get to where Silver and Gold was.

Any practical suggestions and help you can give? Truly appreciate it!

My first and best advice is = Stick to this forum, it is place that makes people faster! People are supportive and nice and friendly. I think I was finishing P 20 000 when I joined this thread and with advices and a lot of practice practice practice I managed to get my first alien badge after maybe a year or so.

Here comes few hands on It will be difficult from start so maybe you can start with one thing at a time. Turn off TC completely, set it to 0, ( just forget about Monza F3500 TC settings, that one was one of the most extreme TTs ever)
Switch from Automatic transmission to manual, in this game it is very common thing to downshift very fast (engine would explode in real life, I mean gearbox) or downshift mid corner for extra rotation of the car, (extra rotation give you chance to start accelerating earlier out of turns) and then quickly upshift to a higher gear than you should probably use in real life too, because in GT7 it gives you time advantage. That is what aliens do and you need to do too if you want to be in that 3%
It might be difficult for person with not so much experince to know exactly when actually to shift up or down. I can share how I do video analisys of fastest lap replay versus my lap replay. I can strongly recommend that approach! It does help and it is not difficult to make, but you will need to put some very small effort to download two laps and put them in video app to compare. Do it turn by turn, practice one turn at a time, then next one and next one and you will be there. like with any other sport, you will not become a football pro in a week or few either but many hours of practice will help you get there. Here is video approach I am talking about.

Good luck and ask here, people will help.




Edit* there is a video lap comparison Jeddah vs Holly1 on my youtube, they were battling P1 and P2, both members of this thread, check that video comparison and you will see example of gear shifting to gain time I am talking about.

 

[half_sourly]

The results for TT127 at Autodromo Nazionale Monza in the Gran Turismo F3500-A are over here. I have updated the opening post with the index of all TTs and the second post with the community scoreboards.

Here are some interim statistics for TT128 at Nürburgring Sprint in the Hyundai IONIQ 5 N '24.

Spoiler: GTP Scoreboard