- 1,324
- Toronto
Totally disillusioned with GT Sport after update !!!!
- Thread starter Arcflyer
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Why bother? Sometimes you'll be P1. Take advantage when you are, deal with it when you're not.
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- England
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- 1,054
- Braga, Portugal
- pedrocor
I agree with every word. But these are problems since day one (didn't play the beta or the demo), not problems with this update particularly, as the title of the post.
Another example of bad programming was the Hyundai Gr.1 race on Blue Moon a few days ago. In my case was a very fine race, contrary to what I was expecting, as DR D, SR A grade player. Don't know about the back end of field (but shouldn't have been too bad, only 3 or 4 racers were lapped), but it was a very fair race, no one backbumping on the only braking point, or wallriding on rival's car, but of course there was some minor touches most side to side, due to racing 220+ mph three wide sometimes, but nothing making any of us loose time, as he kept passing each other, 4 or 5 players as we took advantage of slipstreaming. No penalties were assessed, fortunately, but we kept having "dirty sectors" and our ratings had an hit.
People need to be able to build up SR whilst driving in clear road because of the "everyone's at fault" rule when doling out penalties. Major accidents can leave people driving the rest of the race alone. If they can't get their SR up, where's the incentive to continue the race. There would be too many instances where people would lose SR post race, simply because they encountered an intentional rammer.
- 1,054
- Braga, Portugal
- pedrocor
Yes, because those 3 or 4 guys with SR S rating showing up every race, that don't even bother to race anyone, lapping a handful of seconds of pace, they do it just because of "major accidents".
Agree that you should be able to work on your SR even if someone puts you off, delaying you form any fight on track, but it should a maximum sector/lap time to assure you are actually racing and not just keeping it on the track limits.
I agree that SR is too easy to grind but at DR D one needs all the SR increases one can get because of all the mistakes learners make. There are also massive time gaps at that level so I think your solution would result in fewer people sticking with the game as they go through the early stages. There's probably a middle ground in there somewhere though.
- 74
- United States
That's it in a nut shell... Also
Qualify good
Allow bad drivers room (they will run off the track)
Only pass if it's clean (no hitting)
If you follow too closely, back off a little but stay in the draft
If someone is faster, let them pass!
(they will likely make a mistake allowing you to go by as they're off track)
Those guidelines got me a first place in my first GT Sport daily race! + good qualifying time!
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I had a really nice C/B daily race yesterday on the Nürburgring. Everyone was fair and it was really enjoyable.
- 1,466
- Canada
- mikethehockeyfan
I disagree with you entirely.
If the only thing you do to boost SR is putter around at the back of the field on open road, you never learn how to drive properly with groups of cars.
So when you get to SR-S, and a dangerous situation arises, you are one of those guys who doesn't know how to handle it. You don't know how to drive defensively, so you ragequit after one contact and make a post about it here.
If the only thing you do to boost SR is putter around at the back of the field on open road, you never learn how to drive properly with groups of cars.
So when you get to SR-S, and a dangerous situation arises, you are one of those guys who doesn't know how to handle it. You don't know how to drive defensively, so you ragequit after one contact and make a post about it here.
- 1,874
- United States
If you are racing for position and driving a normal racing line then it is the overtaking cars responsibility to make a clean pass. This is a race not a track day, driving a defensive line protecting the inside and forcing the overtaking car to pass on a less desirable outside line is part of racing.
If the overtaking driver is indeed faster then he will be able to cleanly pass without contact if he cannot then he does not deserve to advance his position.
When the BOP is correctly balanced different makes and models of cars will be stronger in different aspects. One car may be faster entering a corner while the next car will be faster on the exit. May make it seem the car that enters the corner better is faster as he is looking for a opportunity to get the inside at every corner entrance but the car that is faster on the exit can pull just enough distance before the next corner that with defensive driving lines can deny the car with faster corner entrance speed a clear inside line.
This can go on for multiple laps and even if the overtaking car may be able to run a few tenths faster laps with optimum racing lines on a clear track still does not mean he deserves to be gifted the position on track. Also to make it clear I am not talking about blocking a car to prevent a pass but to drive defensively that does not allow the overtaking car to access the premium inside racing line on corner entry.
- 1,466
- Canada
- mikethehockeyfan
That's a good write-up ^
As a slower car in front of a faster car, you are always doing the calculus if fighting for the position will compromise the goal of your race: finishing the race distance in the fastest time possible.
Sometimes if defending a position will allow several cars behind the battle to catch me, I will let the clearly faster car overtake. It depends on the situation and using the track map and radar is important as you do this mental maths.
As a slower car in front of a faster car, you are always doing the calculus if fighting for the position will compromise the goal of your race: finishing the race distance in the fastest time possible.
Sometimes if defending a position will allow several cars behind the battle to catch me, I will let the clearly faster car overtake. It depends on the situation and using the track map and radar is important as you do this mental maths.
Yeah, you're right. But this is also what will get you wrecked out there. Don't depend on you're opponent to be as educated as you. You might wreck because of him and lose many many places. So, risk/reward. Always consider if it's worth it? Maybe wait for a more opertune moment instead of relying on your opponent being a gentleman?
We're not in disagreement because I didn't suggest anyone should grind for SR. I actually agreed that it was too easy to grind. For full clarity, I don't think artificially inflating SR is beneficial to the grinder or other players.
All I said was, because more accidents happen in DR D/E people need those green SRs when they find themselves diving on clear track. I merely pointed out a flaw in pedrocor's idea to solve the problem of SR grinders.
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- Toronto, Ontario
Car in front of you spun, you crash into him, why should anyone get a penalty for this? If you rage quit over something petty like this then good luck....Raced on Dragon Trail Manufacturer race tonight. Qualified in 4th after letting all the other cars leave the garages. I though now I'm in for a good race.
Car in front of me played pinball trough the bus stop chicane. I had no where to go and got caught up in the crash. Tried to get back my positions but just got bounced around by the slower drivers. No penalties seemed to be awarded anywhere. Ended up last after 2 laps and rage quit.
And this was a DR B, SR S race - doesn't anyone drive cleanly any more
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- London
- NapalmJ
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- Toronto, Ontario
yeah massively I heard
JayRS200
(Banned)
- 536
- Finland
I think the number of exclamation marks after a post is inversely proportional to how interesting/insightful the OP will be.
Hey, OP, maybe we could start a new forum section for post race "rage" posts.
There should also be a section for grammar police.
Oh and also wanna be mods.
Maybe combine those sections as I'm sure they share a lot in common.
- 1,466
- Canada
- mikethehockeyfan
Don't worry, jay, there's enough room in the ball pit for you, too
👍Ah I misunderstood then, you're right.
Has anyone confirmed whether there's actually an SR penalty for ragequitting a race during the event, or is it just from not picking up all those green sectors to balance out a couple red SR hits?
Try it out and let us knowDon't worry, jay, there's enough room in the ball pit for you, too
Ah I misunderstood then, you're right.
Has anyone confirmed whether there's actually an SR penalty for ragequitting a race during the event, or is it just from not picking up all those green sectors to balance out a couple red SR hits?
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- Canada
I will post a screenshot of the results after race, the race was SR S and the two DNF's ended up as E, everyone else was S or A.
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- 369
- Ohio
I never said they weren’t dropped to E. I said quitting alone won’t cause that. They most likely quit because they had racked up a bunch of negative SR and penalties. So when they quit early they were stuck with all the infractions plus the hit for quitting.I will post a screenshot of the results after race, the race was SR S and the two DNF's ended up as E, everyone else was S or A.
- 41
- SE Virginia
- Blown03Cobra
I have a feeling it is coming from the sim reviews when the game was released. There were an awful lot of complaints about the tire modeling.
- 1,415
- Coventry
- graveltrap
There have been a few threads ranting about getting a big hit of SR from a single race, what they had in common does seemed to be leaving a race whilst it was still in progress.
It has to be so to prevent a mass exodus of drivers when the realise they can’t win, as seen in Assetto Corsa for example.
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- Berlin
It has to be some kind of punishment, but i find dropping down to E a bit hard. People can have different reasons to have to quit a race. Not everyone quits because of rage or wreck. What if something important comes up, you have to leave immediatelly, some emergency etc
Maybe take a cut in credits or so. For example you have to pay the amount of credits you would have earned if finishing first.
Maybe take a cut in credits or so. For example you have to pay the amount of credits you would have earned if finishing first.
- 1,415
- Coventry
- graveltrap
