Toyota FT-1 Vision Gran Turismo Super Lap - Mount Panorama Motor Racing Circuit

[ODB]

Up WAY to late so I did a few laps, 1:54.453 which is ok but, I used the manual and shifted myself.

Downshifted to early and gave away a really good time on the next lap at the last downhill left, going to stay away from the auto and try to get into the 53's.

For me it seems that manual gears give much more control especially under brakin, there's a bit different rhythm in different cars ang gear ratios, but it's nothing too difficult once you got the idea! Use your ears...

 

[WhoosierGirl]

I'm getting severe framerate issues going over the mountain.

Mine would skip badly on the "dipper", ended up just guessing when to brake and hoping for the best, which is kinda normal even without the skipping, lol.

For me it seems that manual gears give much more control especially under brakin, there's a bit different rhythm in different cars ang gear ratios, but it's nothing too difficult once you got the idea! Use your ears...

My right foot and left hand have a beautiful rhythm, my left foot and right hand apparently have issues with each other, lol.

 

[Thimble]

Shadows and framerate went mental down The Dipper, which meant braking points and apex clipping became a form of guesswork and hope. Probably cost me gold as well, seeing as I was consistently around the 2"03' mark.

 

[t_wilson01]

I'm getting severe framerate issues going over the mountain.

Shadows and framerate went mental down The Dipper, which meant braking points and apex clipping became a form of guesswork and hope.

Setting the PS3 to 720p reduces screen tearing and makes the game run noticeably smoother. The flickering shadows are very distracting though.

Had some free time this morning so I went back to this horror show (even though I said I wouldn't) and pulled 1.8 seconds out of thin air. Houdini would be proud.

 

[MoKami]

Started hitting mid-high 54s consistently on my own

Decided to put on Aono's ghost and dropped down to 1:54:303 with a pretty conservative last corner.

Now I've REALLY no idea how to get a 52 but at least 53 is looking possible 👍

 

[croozer_63]

A little disappointed with the handling of this car. Sees pretty "skittish" on corners. Correct gear selection is crucial for efficient cornering. As for the shadows on top of mountain, I think PD has gone for a realistic afternoon look. With afternoon sunlight streaming through the trees, you do actually get that dappled, flickery type of light there at speed. A little off putting, but quite a decent representation of the real effects.

 

[forty_three]

I had a 2:02.3 on my second lap (I blew the lefthander after the straight/kink and came to an almost full stop) and got the framerate/shadow issue so bad I lost focus and dropped it. Just can't handle the glitchiness. Everytime through the top of the mountain I just lost time because of screen drops and strobe light effects in the shadows.

I like the car, a little skittish, but complies when you kick it around a bit. I am dying without a gold.

I drove it on the Nurbugring with a little tweaking and absolutely love it.

 

[FSportIS]

I had fun with this car. Being tail happy, this car slides around pretty fun. At first, I keep getting silver time and then improve on some corners especially in the mid-track where I do more slide and darn, I improved so many seconds there and finally get gold. I just keep playing and consistently getting gold time now. It is very fun to drive this oversteering tail happy car.

I'm Mr_Smile @nowcontrol, @Lewis_Hamilton_ and @Rockhound18 keep dominating the ranking on my friend list on many seasonal events. It is my first time beating my mentors Lewis and Rockhound TEMPORARILY If i don't improve, my rank will drop again soon for sure lol.

To all who broke the 2 minutes mark, I want to give props to you all because that is impressive. Any tricks/tips on breaking that 2 minutes mark??

 

[ODB]

my left foot and right hand apparently have issues with each other, lol.

It really seems like my brain and my body altogether have some issues whit each other from time to time

This seems to be quite good/difficult place to start learning use manual gears, I mean I've been using manual from day one and I really have to concentrate not to drop down on gears too fast. Just did couple of laps today and it was nothing too pretty, especially on entry I had a lot of trouble, spinning out if not going too wide

 

[Ed_Night]

Started hitting mid-high 54s consistently on my own

Decided to put on Aono's ghost and dropped down to 1:54:303 with a pretty conservative last corner.

Now I've REALLY no idea how to get a 52 but at least 53 is looking possible 👍

I think 52 isn't possible with ds3. Did a 1:54,511 today and was just 0,023 behind you.

Was often 0.2s up on my ghost after turn 3, but keep messing it up within the next 4 corners.

 

[nExx]

Wow! Isn't this car twitchy. I really had to fight to keep it out of the walls. Did a 1:56:754

 

[WhoosierGirl]

It really seems like my brain and my body altogether have some issues whit each other from time to time

This seems to be quite good/difficult place to start learning use manual gears, I mean I've been using manual from day one and I really have to concentrate not to drop down on gears too fast. Just did couple of laps today and it was nothing too pretty, especially on entry I had a lot of trouble, spinning out if not going too wide

For the most part I can use a manual pretty good but, for my best lap TT time I just don't get a good feel for it and can almost always go faster with the automatic.

Panorama has been used enough on TT's so I have actually learned the track well enough to feel comfortable trying to learn how to do it correctly.

 

[et_]

For the most part I can use a manual pretty good but, for my best lap TT time I just don't get a good feel for it and can almost always go faster with the automatic.

Panorama has been used enough on TT's so I have actually learned the track well enough to feel comfortable trying to learn how to do it correctly.

I Imagine you'll struggle with the cars that require short shift then, or the cars that can be revved up to the limiter... Actually, I think you'll loose time in every single car if you dont use a manual transmission. If you learn to use that properly, you'll most certainly get even faster than you already are!
I mean, I even use the gear shifts to stabilize the car or create rotation, not being able to do that is a big loss.

 

[FSportIS]

I Imagine you'll struggle with the cars that require short shift then, or the cars that can be revved up to the limiter... Actually, I think you'll loose time in every single car if you dont use a manual transmission. If you learn to use that properly, you'll most certainly get even faster than you already are!
I mean, I even use the gear shifts to stabilize the car or create rotation, not being able to do that is a big loss.

Hey et_, I test using both manual and auto transmission. Both have pros and cons for me.

I find manual advantageous with the ability to stay in the gear I want so I benefit most with better stability in fast sweepers on a higher gears especially on track such as Big Willow Spring and also better stability with short shifting on tracks such as Indianapolis.

However, on the tracks that have long straights, I find auto transmission doing more precise and better shifting than manual. I either shift earlier or later than the computer and hence lost time.

Like Pinky girl mentioned, I also have my best lap times more often in auto than in manual.

What do you think? And how should we take full advantage of the manual transmission? Elaborated and technical answer is greatly appreciated. Look forward hearing your insight on this. Thanks in advance.

 

[ALB123]

OMG....I just spent about 30 minutes spinning this damn Toyota FT-1 VGT around on just about every corner I could think of. I didn't get a single clean lap in, just a bunch of DQ's for spinning and/or slamming into walls. I can't believe this car. Finally I completed a lap cleanly and thank God, it just happened to be 2:01.770, just enough for a Gold. I honestly don't know how people are setting such awesome lap times with this unmodified car. Usually I can watch my replay and point out many spots where I know I'm losing time. With this car, I truly can't see where I could have given it more. Obviously, that's what separates you great players from me. Hah!

Some very nice times from some of you...Well done!!

 

[t_wilson01]

OMG....I just spent about 30 minutes spinning this damn Toyota FT-1 VGT around on just about every corner I could think of. I didn't get a single clean lap in, just a bunch of DQ's for spinning and/or slamming into walls. I can't believe this car. Finally I completed a lap cleanly and thank God, it just happened to be 2:01.770, just enough for a Gold. I honestly don't know how people are setting such awesome lap times with this unmodified car. Usually I can watch my replay and point out many spots where I know I'm losing time. With this car, I truly can't see where I could have given it more. Obviously, that's what separates you great players from me. Hah!

Some very nice times from some of you...Well done!!

When I tried this car for the first time I had to switch to the chase view just to make sure I was not driving a truck. It really takes some getting used to.

 

[flamingchariot]

Hey et_, I test using both manual and auto transmission. Both have pros and cons for me.

I find manual advantageous with the ability to stay in the gear I want so I benefit most with better stability in fast sweepers on a higher gears especially on track such as Big Willow Spring and also better stability with short shifting on tracks such as Indianapolis.

However, on the tracks that have long straights, I find auto transmission doing more precise and better shifting than manual. I either shift earlier or later than the computer and hence lost time.

Like Pinky girl mentioned, I also have my best lap times more often in auto than in manual.

What do you think? And how should we take full advantage of the manual transmission? Elaborated and technical answer is greatly appreciated. Look forward hearing your insight on this. Thanks in advance.

Being able to stay in the right gear sometimes is advantageous particularly in some cars where the difference between light powerful cars 2nd and 3rd gears (risk of wheelspin or spinout) or 1st and 2nd on a hairpin (less risk of wheelspin and faster pushout and exit speeds). That being said mastering the hand, foot, wheel fandangle - is another matter completely. I tried a few times and i think the main reason I was discouraged was the wheel I have the DFGT the flappy paddles are wholly inadequate. Maybe I should try with the sequential shifter ting? Perseverence is the key with everything I think the lesson is here. From the attempts I did have I was alot faster for a few sectors before it went to pot ... I missed a gear or shifted down too many and got stickblocked or something and spent the rest of the lap thinking instead of driving and totally lost my rythmn.

Not sure about trying it on this track lol -= was struggling a bit oddly earlier only bronzed it so far. Senna was a breeze WTF?

 

[MoKami]

I think 52 isn't possible with ds3. Did a 1:54,511 today and was just 0,023 behind you.

Was often 0.2s up on my ghost after turn 3, but keep messing it up within the next 4 corners.

I'd hate to say its impossible but I think I'm right there with you unless one of these former DS3 legends turned wheel masters can prove otherwise.

That would inspire me to keep going

 

[Mt. Lynx]

OMG....I just spent about 30 minutes spinning this damn Toyota FT-1 VGT around on just about every corner I could think of. I didn't get a single clean lap in, just a bunch of DQ's for spinning and/or slamming into walls. I can't believe this car. Finally I completed a lap cleanly and thank God, it just happened to be 2:01.770, just enough for a Gold. I honestly don't know how people are setting such awesome lap times with this unmodified car. Usually I can watch my replay and point out many spots where I know I'm losing time. With this car, I truly can't see where I could have given it more. Obviously, that's what separates you great players from me. Hah!

Some very nice times from some of you...Well done!!

I did a 1:58.8xx on my first attempts (three clear laps), and I know that I am leaving at least a couple of seconds on top of the mountain. Look at a replay of one of the top tens, and see how much track they use. I'm well off of that.
Also, a good exit on T1 and before the conrod straight is worth a couple of seconds.

Compared to the aliens, I'm a very careful driver

 

[dddsprayshop]

Took me 40 minutes to get to 2:01.975

The car is like a KART, suspension is very stiff. Bumpedy bump on this track.And you get airborne very fast on some parts of some tracks, woosh, fly like an eagle.
Lot's of power thank's to the electric motor('s).
But the car has awesome brakes.

 

[wayne jacobs]

Hey everyone It's the insane suspension settings that PD puts on their race cars as standard.Rear camber 3.5 , insane toe angles etc. PD is brain dead .Cheers redness-63

ps 1:56.7 is my best .

 

[Stotty]

Only did a few laps in this after downloading the update last night but initial impressions are the car is an understeering dog

Checked the settings in the garage; 3.5 rear camber, +1.0 rear plus too high LSD accel... why on earth do PD stick these settings on the car, they just kill the cars ability to turn.

 

[ODB]

Only did a few laps in this after downloading the update last night but initial impressions are the car is an understeering dog

Checked the settings in the garage; 3.5 rear camber, +1.0 rear plus too high LSD accel... why on earth do PD stick these settings on the car, they just kill the cars ability to turn.

Answer to that is fairly simple, they just want us to drive in different manner. My exprience on GTA and nurb24h TT was wery positive and I started to really like how those cars were tuned, I mean aftet I knew how to get them to turn and not to spin out on slow speed exits, driving was quite fun. It just took me a quite a while get used to it since generally tunings are really quite something else.

And what it comes to these vision cars... I really don't know why is it, but they generally feel bit too unpredictable, but it's not becouse of PD tune, I think.

 

[MoKami]

Put in a couple more hours and ran a couple dirty 54:1xxs

That will probably be my max if I can manage a clean one

 

[nExx]

I Imagine you'll struggle with the cars that require short shift then, or the cars that can be revved up to the limiter... Actually, I think you'll loose time in every single car if you dont use a manual transmission. If you learn to use that properly, you'll most certainly get even faster than you already are!
I mean, I even use the gear shifts to stabilize the car or create rotation, not being able to do that is a big loss.

That is what reall separates the Top50 from the normal creatures, being able to rotate the car with gear shifts. I only do that correctly on occasions...

 

[et_]

That is what reall separates the Top50 from the normal creatures, being able to rotate the car with gear shifts. I only do that correctly on occasions...

That and Precise throttle controll

@FSportIS : I dont find that the auto gain me any time, ever. It shifts super accurate, but I usually do it just as accurate. Some cars have the optimum shiftpoint at redline, and that would be when the auto could benefit. However, after some practice, I can also shift that accurate (red light only flashes once) 9/10 times. The shifts I miss is always within 0.100 of a second, and usually towards the end of a lap, and the time I loose is less than 0.010 seconds.

 

[Stotty]

Answer to that is fairly simple, they just want us to drive in different manner. My exprience on GTA and nurb24h TT was wery positive and I started to really like how those cars were tuned, I mean aftet I knew how to get them to turn and not to spin out on slow speed exits, driving was quite fun. It just took me a quite a while get used to it since generally tunings are really quite something else.

And what it comes to these vision cars... I really don't know why is it, but they generally feel bit too unpredictable, but it's not becouse of PD tune, I think.

There's not a huge amount you can do with a car to make it rotate with those fixed settings... all that rear toe and LSD decel just makes the car want to go in a straight line on turn-in, and the high LSD accel just makes it less less trustworthy on exits. Once the car starts to understeer you can't ease the gas and get the front to tuck in.... it just continues to push... and the fixed brake balance means you can trail brake it either.

Personally, I think they are doing it to make the cars more accessible to average players - who will struggle with cars that naturally rotate.

The fact that this car isn't tuneable outside the event is frustrating - the handling could be fixed relatively easily, yet all adjustments are blocked out.

 

[StirlingMoose]

DFGT the flappy paddles are wholly inadequate.

This might help.



I had a DFGT and the little button shifters were the only real problem with the wheel. That and the flimsy pedals. I was going to try these adapters but the pedals gave up the ghost before I got the chance.

 

[SpawnBlack]

Practice makes perfect. When going into the corners for those of you having trouble getting under two minutes, try to brake earlier than usual and let the car coast into the corner and find your apex point. As soon as you feel the car biting into the apex apply the throttle gently and then power out. When applying the throttle do it as gently as possible without losing too much speed and most importantly be smooth as you can when exiting out of the corner.

I have seen some vids where those using a wheel the stand is not stable. If you guys can makes sure that the stand is sturdy and do all things I have explained above, this should improve your lap times. I have a DFGT and since the recent update for the new wheels the FFB is lighter than I would prefer, but to each their own.

 

[GT_Luuva]

Love the sound of this car and the racing hards were a good match on this track, wonder what it is capable of on racing softs?