RWD Judging Results
Well I finally finished judging the RWD entries and I must say most of these cars are so phenomenal I wish I could give out a couple Golds.
The track I tested at was Grand Valley Speedway. I first took the stock vehicle and raced it until I felt comfortable with my lap times. Then I let B-spec Bob run it at Push to see what kind of times he pulled, sort of a control for each car. Next I tuned them up to the required specs and did the same thing again. Now I'm not the best driver by any means so the lap times might be kind of slow, but I did make sure to log at least 2 clean laps where I felt comfortable with the vehicles. I logged about 150 miles total with each of the cars.
Please keep in mind that these are first and foremost my opinions and they are inexplicably tied to my driving style so please do not be offended.
Rotary Junkie Rx-8 '03
Stock: Lap Times: 2'23.267 B-spec Bob's: 2:23.874
Stock Feel: an enjoyable ride but a bit on the slow side. Nice power oversteer and ok braking. A good base to start a tune with.
Tuned: Lap Times: 2'13.489 B-Spec Bob's: 2'11.167
Loved the power oversteer, my lap times weren't as good as they could be because I was having so much fun sliding through corners. A great minimalist tune that really brought out the good in the car. It could have used a bit more brake work as understeer while braking was pretty apparent though not much of an issue. I did not like the lack of a tuned transmission though so that brought the grade down a little bit(but not much). A car I will be keeping in my garage.
Grade: 92/100 👍
nd4holdenspeed Cadillac Cien
Stock: Lap Times: 2'03.260 B-spec Bob's: 2:01.037
Stock Feel: lots of wheelspin, bad snap oversteer, huge braking distances, not something I would have picked for a Sport tire tuning challenge, but we'll see.
Tuned: Lap Times: 2'00.549 B-Spec Bob's: 1'58.013
There was no spring rate/rebound/or stabilizer adjustments, I found this. . .odd to say the least. A fully customizable LSD was purchased but no adjustments were made to it. . ? Downforce was also simply purchased and maxed. This could very well have been intentional but the car seemed lacking.
It had worse wheelspin then even with an extremely careful throttle. It was also very difficult for me to get 2 clean laps with the car. The brakes could use more adjustment as well. It really felt like kind of a rushed job.
Grade: 70/100
Kiwiboy Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG
Stock: Lap Times: 2'16.736 B-spec Bob's: 2'21.185
Stock Feel: lots of body roll and wheel spin,
Tuned: Lap Times: 2'11.716 B-Spec Bob's: 2'13.753
It had less body roll. . .other than that the car felt very similiar. No tranny, LSD, or brake tuning was performed and these things greatly effect the way a car drives and in a tuning challenge I would at least expect them to be messed with a little. This car just wasn't enjoyable to me, and it also felt like too little was done tuning-wise.
Grade: 65/100
CraftyLandShark KC Motorsport SS.2000 Soichiro Special
Stock: Lap Times: 2'18.922 B-spec Bob's: 2'23.915
Stock Feel: a poised controlled base, nice platform on which to work.
Tuned: Lap Times: 2'04.124 B-Spec Bob's: 2'03.154
My first response was. . .WOW! This car is "expletive-deleted" near perfect. It had an ever-so slight snap oversteer problem but this only occurred when I drove incorrectly and took the wrong lines and got on the throttle too early in the corners. It also did not like it when tires left the track, but here again when driven properly this car is amazing. However I was kind of irked by the lack of a Limited-slip which could have given the car that little extra something. I'll be keeping this car.
Grade: 94.5/100 👍
Greycap Honda NSX Type R '02
Stock: Lap Times: 2'12.734 B-spec Bob's: 2'15.367
Stock Feel: Yet another good platform on which to work.
Tuned: Lap Times: 2'02.540 B-Spec Bob's: 2'03.289
Awesome handling, this car does whatever you ask of it, period. It flew around the track in less time, with less horsepower than most of it's competitor's and I thoroughly enjoyed driving it, which I can't really say about any of my other NSX's. It brakes when you ask it too and rips the pavement up as well. Thanks for making yet another car for me to keep and enjoy.
Grade: 95/100 👍👍
*note: I found the suspension settings and handling characteristics of the NSX and the S2000 to be very very similiar. I enjoyed both cars equally and had a very difficult time deciding which was better. Ultimately it was Greycap's inclusion and tuning of the LSD which nudged him past CLS.
CirclesCenter Toyota 2000GT '67
Stock: Lap Times: 2'29.319 B-spec Bob's: 2'43.589
Stock Feel: Kudos for style, love the engine sound, a lot of body roll and a bit slow though. (Bob can't seem to drive this car though)
Tuned: Lap Times: 2'16.860 B-Spec Bob's: 2'28.830
Nice time improvement on the car but I couldn't help noticing the lack of transmission tuning. Gearing is so important in this game I just can't see how it is overlooked so much. I understood that you were going for the track day car though and in that aspect I believe that you accomplished your goal. It's a great tune and with some transmission work it could've been spectacular as it is, I believe a few others turned in cars that were just a little more enjoyable to me. For your first tune though it is an excellent job.
Grade: 89/100 👍
Hemisport15 Clio Renault Sport V6 Phase 2
Stock: Lap Times: 2'14.978 B-spec Bob's: 2'22.580
Stock Feel: One of my absolute favorite cars in the game, there isn't much that I don't like about it.
Tuned: Lap Times: 2'02.662 B-Spec Bob's: 2'07.914
I felt like the suspension and transmission tuning was not very well developed overall, the car still felt nice, but it did that to begin with. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it didn't seem like you changed much as far as those two things were concerned. The brakes need serious adjustment however, at least to my driving style I found that even tapping the brakes above third gear would send the car into oversteer-snap oversteer-360, though nine-times out of ten I would stay on the track and once I even managed a faster time than my fastest clean lap while 360'ing around a corner.
This is a car that I wanted to love and I had a lot of fun driving it; however, the braking issue needs to be solved.
Grade: 90/100
*Note After a couple more laps with your clio I discovered that your braking problem is not coming from the BBC at all but a simple overabundance of front downforce on a short wheelbase mid-engine car. I lowered the setting to 10 (from 30) and ran under 2:00 without experiencing any of the braking mayhem that plagued my initial testing of the car.
Leonidae 350Z '03
Stock: Lap Times: 2'10.862 B-spec Bob's: 2'13.192
Stock Feel: A good canvas to start from, this car feels very balanced.
Tuned: Lap Times: 2'00.058 B-Spec Bob's: 1'56.921
Simply awe-inspiring. I loved this tune, everything felt right about it. It meshed with my driving style and stole the show from other very worthy contenders. Great power-oversteer when you wanted it and perfect control when you didn't, at high speeds its on rails and at low speeds it corners excellently. It even beat out the 800hp monster as far as lap times went. (Bob liked it too!) It felt like a lot of blood sweat and tears went into this tune, and the little baby that was created should make his Dad Proud. This car is a beast. Great Job Leonidae. 👍
Grade: 97/100 👍👍👍
1. Leonidae - 97
2. Greycap - 95
3. CraftyLandShark -94.5
4. Rotary Junkie -92
5. Hemisport15 - 90
6. Circlescenter - 89*Honorable Mention
7. nd4holdenspeed -70
8. Kiwiboy - 65