UK General Election (Poll Results in OP)

[ECGadget]

By wasting a load of money on wind turbines?

That is one part I don't agree on. I did a short paper some years ago on Nuclear power, and I found that it is the cleanest and the most future proof way of providing our energy for the next few hundred years

(Once the U-235 runs out we can use Uranium-238 and Thorium-233 which we have plenty of!)

 

[Spurgy 777]

That is one part I don't agree on. I did a short paper some years ago on Nuclear power, and I found that it is the cleanest and the most future proof way of providing our energy for the next few hundred years

(Once the U-235 runs out we can use Uranium-238 and Thorium-233 which we have plenty of!)

Or better yet, increase funding into nuclear fusion research.

 

[Carbonox]

@ECGadget, did Ed's Islamophobia law affect your choice of party in the end?

 

[Lizard]

@ECGadget, did Ed's Islamophobia law affect your choice of party in the end?

Do you ever talk about anything other than the fact you want the right to insult Muslims?

 

[DK]

Isn't the problem with Thorium-233 the fact that there hasn't been nearly as much effort and/or funding poured into researching how to harness it for electricity?

A current affairs programme here was discussing the ramifications of the DUP becoming coalition partners to the Tories...I'd imagine that, in exchange, they'd probably want gay marriage removed (among other things).

 

[Carbonox]

Do you ever talk about anything other than the fact you want the right to insult Muslims?

I actually present questions purely out of curiosity... Oh, and I don't "want" the right, because I already have the right to insult whoever I want. Just not GTP members on GTP, hehe.

Unfortunately, folks like Miliband are too concerned with appeasing minorities to see this. The fact that multiple GTP'ers are apparently willing to ignore this and vote for his party anyway is worrying. It's like you want your rights to be taken away.

 

[ECGadget]

@ECGadget, did Ed's Islamophobia law affect your choice of party in the end?

With all due respect, that law did not come into my choice of party. Politics is far more than having a racist party in or out of the govenment. There is science, education, finances, warfare, transport and moreso they way people talk to us. The mayor of where I live is a Labour MP, and he is a thoroughly nice gentleman who has been this way ever since before I was even born and my grandparents moved here. For that, I have a a soft spot for the Labour party and the candidates I pick, because he looks out for us. Had a Tory MP done so in my area, I may have voted them. Or a UKIP, or a Green. At the end of the day I could have spoilt my vote easily but I chose not to because I feel that in my area, these people can make the change I want. So Islamaphobia laws? Nah. I do not keep my mind closed and focus on a single issue; I try to focus on what will be best for the UK overall, not best for me overall.


@DK You're right there, but we have enough U235 and U238 to last us about 150 years. In 150 we should have many ways of tapping into the potential of Th233

 

[Saidur_Ali]

I've taken Labour; not because I like them but I am voting tactically. They need to take the government to fix the mess the Tories made, and then make their own mess which Tories will in turn fix etc etc.

In reality I dislike both parties (in fact almost all parties simply because they either lie OR the policies are a little too far ahead of time etc). I have points I like in about half the parties but the other points... not so much!

UKIP is a major no for me, though they have one good point about the EU
Green is scientifically a good one, but I say they need to hold out about thirty years before their points become feasible.
RESPECT is good BUT Mr Galloway (though right most the time) is a little too... volatile for my tastes right now, and his party is too small to make the changes

Are you not concerned by how much more mess Labour might create? Their plan seems to be higher taxes, weaker economy and more lavish spending to increase debts by a considerable amount.

 

[ECGadget]

Are you not concerned by how much more mess Labour might create? Their plan seems to be higher taxes, weaker economy and more lavish spending to increase debts by a considerable amount.

I have yes, but the problem for me is that the Tories will make just as big a mess without fixing anything else; at least Labour will fix a few things and make a different mess. Ideally I would have chosen not to vote but with how close this is between them, I felt voting tactically was the logical decision to make.

 

[TRGTspecialist]

A current affairs programme here was discussing the ramifications of the DUP becoming coalition partners to the Tories...I'd imagine that, in exchange, they'd probably want gay marriage removed (among other things).

Not in NI at least, because it was never passed! The wonders of devolution......

The 4 things they've said they want are no SNP involved, bedroom tax removed, 2% GDP defence spending and better border control. But all the 'red line' crap (not just DUP) is all posturing in my opinion - at the end of the day a coalition/pact/arrangement is a backroom-deal power grab, so it's completely up in the air who would get what out of it.

Boy am I excited for tonight though (as sad as that sounds ). Wonder what the turnout will be - hope it's high (if not Scot referendum levels), especially with the amount of things that have been done to engage younger voters this time round.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

I have yes, but the problem for me is that the Tories will make just as big a mess without fixing anything else; at least Labour will fix a few things and make a different mess. Ideally I would have chosen not to vote but with how close this is between them, I felt voting tactically was the logical decision to make.

I see the Tories continuing fixing the mess left by Labour, don't see them adding to it. Labours plans seem to hit poorest and in the middle working families with more taxes as well as the richest and may drive UK into a sort of benefits culture and soaring debt, back to where they finished last time in power.

 

[Pamellaaa]

I have yes, but the problem for me is that the Tories will make just as big a mess without fixing anything else; at least Labour will fix a few things and make a different mess. Ideally I would have chosen not to vote but with how close this is between them, I felt voting tactically was the logical decision to make.

If you ideally don't want to vote, and don't want either Labour or the Conservatives to win then surely a protest vote, a vote for a party whom you do agree with or a spoiled ballot would be the better decision?

 

[ECGadget]

If you ideally don't want to vote, and don't want either Labour or the Conservatives to win then surely a protest vote, a vote for a party whom you do agree with or a spoiled ballot would be the better decision?

I would have done that yup, but I do not like the Tories at all. So in four years time I will probably vote the Tories again to fix mess made by Labour. Or if a party like Green has built up, maybe them... Still not too sure really... I looked at a bunch of the policies and marked off what I agreed with more... Turned out Labour was top for me, followed by Green, followed by LibDems. So my choice was between them... I fancy this next gov will be a Lab-LibDem coalition...

Though my first thought was to Spoil...

 

[Pamellaaa]

I would have done that yup, but I do not like the Tories at all. So in four years time I will probably vote the Tories again to fix mess made by Labour. Or if a party like Green has built up, maybe them... Still not too sure really... I looked at a bunch of the policies and marked off what I agreed with more... Turned out Labour was top for me, followed by Green, followed by LibDems. So my choice was between them... I fancy this next gov will be a Lab-LibDem coalition...

Though my first thought was to Spoil...

Have you looked at who has a realistic chance of winning in your constituency? For me there was only a handful of votes between Lib Dem and Tory last time around and everyone else is a long long way behind, this doesn't bother me as my ideal scenario would be another Lib-Tory coalition so both choices in some support what I would hope to achieve.

If however I felt like you did, and lived where I do a vote for Labour would be so inconsequential that I would be inclined to spoil my ballot.

 

[ECGadget]

Have you looked at who has a realistic chance of winning in your constituency? For me there was only a handful of votes between Lib Dem and Tory last time around and everyone else is a long long way behind, this doesn't bother me as my ideal scenario would be another Lib-Tory coalition so both choices in some support what I would hope to achieve.

If however I felt like you did, and lived where I do a vote for Labour would be so inconsequential that I would be inclined to spoil my ballot.

Here is is between Tory and Lab and is pretty close, hence why I chose Labour
Next time around, depending on how close it is I may spoil

 

[MatskiMonk]

Decided I will be voting. Just Labour, Tory, Lib Dem and UKIP standing here in the General Elections. Lib Dems score an instant -1 on my list of "reasons I should have your vote" by not even bothering to send us a leaflet through post.

My junk mail to actually mail ratio is approaching 150:1, I'm going to wipe my arse with any political leaflets and return them to sender. Not physically spaming my doormat is a major plus for me.

 

[jackargent]

I see the Tories continuing fixing the mess left by Labour, don't see them adding to it. Labours plans seem to hit poorest and in the middle working families with more taxes as well as the richest and may drive UK into a sort of benefits culture and soaring debt, back to where they finished last time in power.

You say Labour plan to hit the poorest. I don't see where you get that idea from. The fact is the Tories HAVE hit the poorest for the last 5 years & yet intend to "trim" a further £12bn from benefits.

If you have concern for the poor (& you should) I don't see how you can consider voting Tory.

 

[Lizard]

Are you not concerned by how much more mess Labour might create? Their plan seems to be higher taxes, weaker economy and more lavish spending to increase debts by a considerable amount.

The weaker economy bit isn't a plan it is your prediction. The higher taxes is to fund things and the increased spending is actually good for the economy according to Keynes. (Yes I know this is an anti Keynes forum.)

 

[MatskiMonk]

BBC Exit Poll has a Conservative lead, 316 to Labours 239... and the Lib Dems way down to 10 seats.

 

[ExigeEvan]

BBC Exit Poll has a Conservative lead, 316 to Labours 239... and the Lib Dems way down to 10 seats.

More interestingly, the Lib Dem 10 would give a Tory coalition the majority. But, what would Lib Dem gain from such little influence?

Labour + SNP is still not enough.

 

[Jimlaad43]

The SNP are getting too much power... (If the exit poll comes true)

 

[Lizard]

So it is Thatcher all over again. The Tories are 'hated' by the masses yet still win every time.

Also.

Lord Ashdown says he will "publicly eat my hat" if the BBC, ITV and Sky exit poll proves to be correct. It predicts his party will be left with just 10 seats.

 

[DK]

YouGov's exit polls are saying something quite different:
https://twitter.com/Xlibris1/status/596422363215986688

 

[Lizard]

Also the BBC are predicting Plaid to have nothing and the Greens to lose Brighton which I find a little hard to believe actually.

Also first result in. Labour in the lead. (It was a safe seat )

 

[TRGTspecialist]

Here's an interesting article about exit polling. 5 people holed up in a box somewhere.......smart experienced people though.

I am amazed though, just speechless. Assuming that exit poll has a standard margin of error, it may not even rule out a Tory majority. Someone has got it very wrong........gonna be a fascinating night.

 

[Furinkazen]

BBC equipment really not working tonight, maybe it's new UKIP-standard straight from the 1970s.

 

[jackargent]

The SNP are getting too much power... (If the exit poll comes true)

The SNP are getting no power at all if the exit poll is right.

The Tories & the SNP will not touch each other with a bargepole.

Personally, I can't believe the SNP will get quite that many or the LibDems quite that few. If I'm right about them, then hopefully the Tory numbers will be exaggerated.

 

[jackargent]

Also the BBC are predicting Plaid to have nothing and the Greens to lose Brighton which I find a little hard to believe actually.

Also first result in. Labour in the lead. (It was a safe seat )

they are predicting Palid Cymru at 4 & greens at 2

 

[Brend]

The SNP are getting too much power... (If the exit poll comes true)

Not enough, actually.

 

[Lizard]

they are predicting Palid Cymru at 4 & greens at 2

Yes I misread it sorry.