I apologize for responding to this so late - I had intended to respond earlier but I had some real life to deal with first.
I'm sorry if this enters the conversation at an odd time and/or makes the thread a little jumbled;
So do the crappy 'jokes', if you can call them that, about the word 'soon'. There's a reason why comedian's always come up with new material, it's because using the same joke, no matter how funny it was, gets extremely old, extremely quickly.
You're right. It is an old, crappy joke.
PD should stop using it.
A large majority of the people that linger like a bad smell in this forum need to grow up.
All I ask as a once active member of this part of the forum is for people to grow up, and actually live up to their word and stop booing GT, when after all this is a fansite.
/rant
I actually do very much agree that there is a lot of belligerent useless negativity in a lot of this forum, but there is still a noteworthy portion of people that are making legitimate claims.
The whole course maker fiasco is probably the most legitimate complaint you can make - PD made it a huge selling factor, made claims that it was going to make it at or just after release. Going-on two years later, it still hasn't been released, and there is hardly a word on it. You don't do that with a sell-point feature, especially as a AAA first-party developer. This has been discussed to death by a plethora of users, and I really don't feel the need to put any more words in on it since so many others have; I'll just be beating a dead horse. It does apply to and affect me, but this is the more personally important stuff:
I was only able to pick up and start playing GT6 over this past summer due to faulty hardware. My PS3 melted a year-ish ago, so I'd been without games for a while. I've played Forza plenty and absolutely love it's customization and diverse car list, and yet I decided to drop $200+ and more than 40 hours taking apart and repairing my system just to play GT6 and get my old GT5 files back, rather than simply going with an Xbox, PS4, or maybe even PC - all had huge amounts of enticing games - so don't tell me I'm not a fan. I stuck with GT because there are still things I love about it that I don't find anywhere else.
The problem I have is that these great things get nullified with problems that have seemingly gotten worse with recent iterations. The entertainment factor I find in racing games is a combination of managing/controlling your own vehicle (largely a racing exclusive item) and fighting opponents (a video game-norm item). No other game has come
remotely close to GT in terms of the feeling I get when driving a car, and GT6 is the best yet in this regard. Photomode and even the limited customization is excellent for me, too. But the AI has taken a step back. There's all sorts of odd rubber-banding, shyness in slipstreaming and overtaking, and very little aggression. For me, it would be like if you took Borderlands (another game series I absolutely adore) and made every single enemy a one-shot kill; the character movements, controls, gunplay, leveling system, atmosphere, and lore are all still utterly fantastic, but there no longer seems to be a point in using any of it. The game no longer has any challenge, which for me, ruins everything; challenge the key point to playing the game - and really, any game.
The big things for me right now are AI (as mentioned) and replayable features. I know some may not be able be fixed with this iteration, and I've accepted that, but there are things that can, and yet haven't, and haven't shown a whole lot of promise in changing in the future, an example being in the backwards nature of the AI I mentioned before. Another is with arcade mode - in GT5, I could set up races that weren't provided in the career mode, which is normal for any sort of offline quick race/match in any game. But combine with my course maker habits, I was able to extract hours and hours of fun from just one track and a few settings - and hours more for each parameter I changed. Then multiply that by more tracks and I had access to a pool of fun for several years. Even then there were limits with GT5, I still couldn't select individual AI opponents or set laps above 99, but there was still plenty to make due with. But GT6 doesn't even let you choose how many cars you race against, and despite upgrading and adding new features to the tire wear and fuel consumption model, doesn't give you access to those options offline. So then if you want to utilize them, you need to rely on a circumstance where 15 people want to do exactly what you want to do, and pray to the internet gods that you don't disconnect. And then there's the whole shuffle racing shebam, which was really the only way to do quick and manageable online racing while still having diverse options in car and track selections - quick match is so unbelievably limited in that regard.
The problem I'm getting now is that PD are taking away the tools I use to utilize the points that I love about GT. Some people share those exact views, some have parallels, some have vastly different reasons - but they are all real reasons. People are upset because those who came to love (or perhaps grew up with) the series feel it's going on a bad path, and key items they've found in it exclusive to the series will be lost forever to the gaming world - in some ways, it's like your favorite movie series receiving a sequel that ruins the series as a whole.
So, yeah. Some people have just dropped the game and are just here to bash. But I think some of the stuff you see you're only misinterpreting as hate messages.
I have high hopes for the future of GT, likely the course maker as well... But everything PD has said at this point is vaporware. There is nothing in my hands that shows what they have done, are doing, or will do. It's just a lot of words and no results.
It
can be great, I
want it to be great, but it isn't.