Vision GT: A Great Initiative or a Dying Concept?
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- TheLordSnowden
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I think the VGT's are a bit of a gimic, I only do the seasonal and never use them again knowing they are fake... As these cars are being built I can't help but see the whole GT car roster aging quickly.
There are so many newer cars from just the past couple years I'd love to drive a GT, Bentley GT, Le Farrari, Hurican, P1, countless new GT race cars, manufactures all releasing new models... I think there have been more new cars in the past 2-3 years than there has been in the past 10... And 90% of GT's car list is pre 2011...
Personally, I think GT 6 is just an open beta for GT 7... The dead give away is all the small details updated in updates, those details are the sign of a game in development than enhancing and expanding the game... It's like nothing is final and people are still tweeking little things...
There are so many newer cars from just the past couple years I'd love to drive a GT, Bentley GT, Le Farrari, Hurican, P1, countless new GT race cars, manufactures all releasing new models... I think there have been more new cars in the past 2-3 years than there has been in the past 10... And 90% of GT's car list is pre 2011...
Personally, I think GT 6 is just an open beta for GT 7... The dead give away is all the small details updated in updates, those details are the sign of a game in development than enhancing and expanding the game... It's like nothing is final and people are still tweeking little things...
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- GTP_MooCow
Op... you dont have anything better to do than asking stupid questions like this ????
J/k
Although you are positive about this VgT project, i find it weird that you would be so pessimist in regards to your fellow men's sentiment on this...
Personally, i think this VGT project has plenty of life in it... knowing what we know now, its fairly obvious how logical this is... if it wasnt Kaz leading this, there would have been someone at some point down the line...
Virtual and automated reality are now becoming more accessible, its innevitable that constructors first test and simulate their products.. it has already been the case for the past 20 years...
This VGT project is just bringing to light and more transparency to one aspect of the design process to the general public...
This is just a start...
J/k
Although you are positive about this VgT project, i find it weird that you would be so pessimist in regards to your fellow men's sentiment on this...
Personally, i think this VGT project has plenty of life in it... knowing what we know now, its fairly obvious how logical this is... if it wasnt Kaz leading this, there would have been someone at some point down the line...
Virtual and automated reality are now becoming more accessible, its innevitable that constructors first test and simulate their products.. it has already been the case for the past 20 years...
This VGT project is just bringing to light and more transparency to one aspect of the design process to the general public...
This is just a start...
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Unveiling of concepts in the digital world, versus waiting for the next major auto-show, then relying on Journo's to cocer it properly, seems to be a much better idea to me - and quite possibly the way of the future. In that respect VGT is paving the way I think, and as I said, I like the cars. But it's also true to say that, I'd forgo some of them for some new real car DLC (I love the Wraith so much......
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- Gerarghini
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Aside from the Mitsubishi and Volkswagen which are basically redesigns from existing concept cars, I'd say it's faring well, not great. We have about 3-4 VGTs that fit that "redesigned" criteria.
The Toyota VGT is lazy. Shouldn't be called a VGT at all as it's clearly a FT-1 Super GT concept. What I think we need is more cars like the Nissan, Aston, and Mercedes-Benz; more outlandish cars that can only be driven in Gran Turismo.
The Toyota VGT is lazy. Shouldn't be called a VGT at all as it's clearly a FT-1 Super GT concept. What I think we need is more cars like the Nissan, Aston, and Mercedes-Benz; more outlandish cars that can only be driven in Gran Turismo.
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- sparkytooth50001
I fully support this project. One appealing factor of GT to me is that I get to drive cars I otherwise would never get to drive in an environment that sorta kinda simulates a real driving environment. It sorta continues the spirit of the GT Concept games from Gen II, the Nissan is my most favorite so far.
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- lusitaNUNO
i think the day GT6 is finished is the day GT7 is (close to) finished. then its just a matter of letting GT6 live enough its last features update to release GT7. its of all interest for sony that GT7 is in stores in time for the FIA championships. it would sell lots of PS4s and wheels.
it wount be much time from the last update for gt6 to a possible GT7 release so if PD updated GT6 with all cars they have modeled now, there wouldnt be many cars or time left for GT7. i dont think PD hade any other option than support GT6 with the VGT project rather than with new real cars.
would be great timming for PD and Sony if GT6 is finished, in terms of features, before october.
it wount be much time from the last update for gt6 to a possible GT7 release so if PD updated GT6 with all cars they have modeled now, there wouldnt be many cars or time left for GT7. i dont think PD hade any other option than support GT6 with the VGT project rather than with new real cars.
would be great timming for PD and Sony if GT6 is finished, in terms of features, before october.
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VGT project is great but the idea is hindered by the game itself. With better sound and modeled interiors it would be a whole new story.
Adding few permanent races to A-spec for each car wouldn't hurt either. There could be Goodwood events for VGTs.
As it is now it's just a concept car with no heritage and made up specs - I can understand why players aren't thrilled to drive them - it's not a classic Ferrari that you can take to simply throw around, you need the game to support the car with content because in itself it doesn't carry any emotional legacy - it's "fake".
So far Mercedes and Aston delivered the type of cars that I like and I do use them.
Adding few permanent races to A-spec for each car wouldn't hurt either. There could be Goodwood events for VGTs.
As it is now it's just a concept car with no heritage and made up specs - I can understand why players aren't thrilled to drive them - it's not a classic Ferrari that you can take to simply throw around, you need the game to support the car with content because in itself it doesn't carry any emotional legacy - it's "fake".
So far Mercedes and Aston delivered the type of cars that I like and I do use them.
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- lator-illa
It's funny watching some of the VGT videos, and how the designers/engineers discuss the sound of their vehicles.
I wonder how they react upon hearing it the first time in the game.
I wonder how they react upon hearing it the first time in the game.
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I thought the same thing watching Jay Leno drive his car on his episode of Jays Garage, he was explaining everything but the sound, he was basically like, it looks like my car, it sorta drives like my car, it has the power like my car, but I know he wanted to say but didn't, but it doesn't sound like my car. Especially when he could walk around the corner and actually start it up and drive it.It's funny watching some of the VGT videos, and how the designers/engineers discuss the sound of their vehicles.
I wonder how they react upon hearing it the first time in the game.
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Don't have GT6 anymore but I like the VGT cars 👍 Something different and fresh
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Personally, I would've preferred seeing time being spent elsewhere; like, actual existing cars. Admittedly, I never cared for PD's tounge on tounge action with the automotive industry to begin with. With the exception of BMW, Vision GT has never once managed to reawaken my interest in the game either - which has been collecting dust for the past two months.
More power to those who enjoy them though.
More power to those who enjoy them though.
Quakebass
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It started to die down with the "meh" models, a lot of which were models based on existing cars. The BMW got people excited, but then the Mitsubishi came out a little silently, thus it wasn't as popular. Then people noticed at it was based on an existing concept. The VW had a lot of hype, but it took forever to release, reducing the hype. People didn't like the looks of the Nissan, and the hype died down again, as it was the only known project at the time.
Despite the recent hype drop, I think it's still got a lot of steam. Most of the people "against" the VGT project are people that would prefer existing road cars to concepts. Plus, as I said, people were getting disappointed that the project was turning into essentially sport/race-modified verions of existing vehicles. I think the Aston started to change that. We know that the Subaru and Alfa Romeo are in the code, and I think the Alfa will be a turning point for the said-derailing hype train. They're a manufacturer known for their beautiful designs, and it's launch will likely continue the project's idea of limitless design, which is what attracted a lot of people.
I don't think it's dying, I think it's just died down a bit, and it'll climb back up soon.
Despite the recent hype drop, I think it's still got a lot of steam. Most of the people "against" the VGT project are people that would prefer existing road cars to concepts. Plus, as I said, people were getting disappointed that the project was turning into essentially sport/race-modified verions of existing vehicles. I think the Aston started to change that. We know that the Subaru and Alfa Romeo are in the code, and I think the Alfa will be a turning point for the said-derailing hype train. They're a manufacturer known for their beautiful designs, and it's launch will likely continue the project's idea of limitless design, which is what attracted a lot of people.
I don't think it's dying, I think it's just died down a bit, and it'll climb back up soon.
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I like the idea of Goodwood events for the VGT's. With regards to their emotional legacy, as you put it, well.. as an example, I'm a BMW enthusiast, so already, you know I'll love driving the BMW VGT, and I think it will be the same for other people as cars from marques they like are released. And because I like driving that one, I've got into driving the others, for comparison... my own Cape Ring VGT leaderboard if you like.. so I can see which one is 'the best'. I think what I'm trying to say is Vision Gran Turismo will generate its own legacy, as the project rolls on. I mean, Deep Forest and Trial mountain never had a legacy until GT1, now, can you imagine GT without them?
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I think the VGT project is great and look forward to each one.
It's interesting to see what direction each manufacturer takes these cars.
You do see some complaints though.
So here's my thoughts on those.
No interiors ... fair enough, particularly if you drive using that view.
VGT is the main focus ... numbers reveal the story.
Out of 22 cars added to GT6, 7 of them are VGT's.
3 from Senna, 4 from Red Bull, 8 others.
So a decent percentage have been VGT's, but perhaps taking it too far to say it's become the main focus.
Wasted time creating them ... considering most work is done by the maunfacturer, don't see it as an issue.
Advertised too far ahead of release ... Agreed, the wait can be painful.
Those that have had long periods are the cars that have had real life reveals.
So I can understand the manufacturers creating hype towards the build up of the unveiling in those instances.
Large downloads ... I guess the videos play some part here.
News is that 1.12 will address the issue of large downloads, so we'll see where that leads.
Lazy designs ... Subjective in my view.
The same could be said about almost any new concept unless it's radically different.
Regarding the FT-1, the early vision concept art matches the design.
The fact a road going concept has since been revealed doesn't mean Toyota did a quick fix at knocking out a VGT.
All in all I'm happy with the way the project is going.
Perhaps the inclusion of interiors would go a long way to silencing the majority of critics.
Otherwise I would think/hope that most people are enjoying what this project brings.
It's interesting to see what direction each manufacturer takes these cars.
You do see some complaints though.
So here's my thoughts on those.
No interiors ... fair enough, particularly if you drive using that view.
VGT is the main focus ... numbers reveal the story.
Out of 22 cars added to GT6, 7 of them are VGT's.
3 from Senna, 4 from Red Bull, 8 others.
So a decent percentage have been VGT's, but perhaps taking it too far to say it's become the main focus.
Wasted time creating them ... considering most work is done by the maunfacturer, don't see it as an issue.
Advertised too far ahead of release ... Agreed, the wait can be painful.
Those that have had long periods are the cars that have had real life reveals.
So I can understand the manufacturers creating hype towards the build up of the unveiling in those instances.
Large downloads ... I guess the videos play some part here.
News is that 1.12 will address the issue of large downloads, so we'll see where that leads.
Lazy designs ... Subjective in my view.
The same could be said about almost any new concept unless it's radically different.
Regarding the FT-1, the early vision concept art matches the design.
The fact a road going concept has since been revealed doesn't mean Toyota did a quick fix at knocking out a VGT.
All in all I'm happy with the way the project is going.
Perhaps the inclusion of interiors would go a long way to silencing the majority of critics.
Otherwise I would think/hope that most people are enjoying what this project brings.
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Vision GT is good project for two reasons. First off, it gives automakers the chance to think of something creative and even radical to make as a concept car. This concept car could be a preview of what the automaker might offer in the future.
Secondly, when an automaker unveils the car to the public it gives Gran Turismo free publicity. This could maybe increase sales of the games in the future....
Although I would prefer getting car packs like we did in GT5, I am fairly pleased with getting these cars for free during an update. I believe the best part of it is that nobody in any other racing game gets to drive them, at least not yet anyways.
Secondly, when an automaker unveils the car to the public it gives Gran Turismo free publicity. This could maybe increase sales of the games in the future....
Although I would prefer getting car packs like we did in GT5, I am fairly pleased with getting these cars for free during an update. I believe the best part of it is that nobody in any other racing game gets to drive them, at least not yet anyways.
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