Wallbanger's 1st annual million credit FF Summer Shootout!(6/19/11 final 7/17/11)

ACSR421
Here is my review of Raver and Praiano's tunes. I used a baseline tune of the Honda Integra '04 for reference. I added all power adders except turbo and all weight reduction. I didn't include chassis strengh. I added full custom suspension and used default values all else stock with SS tires. Power was @320 hp weight @999 kg and pp @486.

The good starting with my baseline car.
great sound with stock trans.
level stance
easy drivability with neutral handling
good all around gear ratio's
stable with smooth ride
consistent with fastest time on my 5th lap

The bad
moderate understeer
avg. brake balance with avg. strengh
avg. acceleration
vanilla handling

Lap time of 2:05.754 @GVS

Ravers Tune
The good
level stance
wide ratio 3rd gear
traction out of low speed corners
strong brakes
stable on straights
hugs the inside line

The bad
took me 8 laps to put three consistent ones together
1st and 2nd gear too short but unused here
3rd to 4th gear shift required perfect timing to pull next gear
lost time to base car on straights due to gearing
overall gearing not sorted for my style
aggressive handling that requires extra concentration
little margin for error with handling
quick initial turn-in then pushes on exit
didn't like the long tunnel or faster corners on the track
overall setup didn't suit my driving style

Lap time 2:04.657 @GVS

Praiano 63s Tune

The good
very stable under braking
brake balance works well with tune
smooth turn-in
gear spacing close and effective
quick accel.
used all of gearing on long straight
easy to drive fast
could make consistent laps that suited my driving style
fastest time came on 4th lap

The bad
car sits high in front and low in back
loss of traction on corner exit (slow corners)
dampers maxed out on front
moderate understeer
could be faster for me with less understeer
had to coast more with lower entry and exit speed in corners
harsh ride up front

overall a good tune for my style

Lap time 2:02.800 @GVS
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First thanks for this review.

1- for the ride height "car sits high in front and low in back" it's just on the setting panel, but with bug it give the opposit , low front ,higher rear, to avoid in part the understeer (as possible).
2-"loss of traction on corner exit (slow corners)" ,i've set an LSD as low as possible to avoid this,LSD Front 08/16/05, but it's not enough. The rest of the job must be done with the pedal.
3-" dampers maxed out on front" this is the way i've found for tracks that need quick direction changes, and it is better for my driving style, i like to put the nose first. More eagerness.

Thanks a lot for this job. Have a good day.
 
My 4 Door is looking good, putting the finishing touches on it, running 2:02's I need some GVS practice, it's been too long since I pushed a car here (maybe 2005 it was) I hit the A Spec Races in GT5 but that's about it. 3 spots on the Track I'm passing my ghost only to get passed back. I'm pushing the limits of a 4 door chassis 4 sure.
 
I have a couple of questions as a driver. After I read the rules more closely.
1. Do we need to give a review of the tune or just our lap times ?
2. Are we competing against the other drivers for the fastest lap time ?
If so I only ran 8-5 laps for the two tuners that I reviewed earlier and only tried to get 3 consistent laps out of each tune (not looking for the fastest time I could post). I thought the times just needed to be a fair representation of each tune and would get avg. out at the end of the shootout to determine the winner amongst the tuners.
Sorry for the confusion, I want to make sure I'm doing all I can for the tuners hard work. I would have run more laps in each car to get the best lap times though.
 
ACSR421
I have a couple of questions as a driver. After I read the rules more closely.
1. Do we need to give a review of the tune or just our lap times ?
2. Are we competing against the other drivers for the fastest lap time ?
If so I only ran 8-5 laps for the two tuners that I reviewed earlier and only tried to get 3 consistent laps out of each tune (not looking for the fastest time I could post). I thought the times just needed to be a fair representation of each tune and would get avg. out at the end of the shootout to determine the winner amongst the tuners.
Sorry for the confusion, I want to make sure I'm doing all I can for the tuners hard work. I would have run more laps in each car to get the best lap times though.
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I definitely understand your concern. It's both mixed together. We want the drivers to push the Tunes. While there is incentive to hit the fastest lap time, ALL Drivers best laps are averaged for each Tune to decide a winner. So if you can push it to 2:02 it counts along with the Guy who hit 2:03 or 2:04. There is prizes for fastest laps but the contest is for the Tunes.

We only ask that you give each Tune equal time on the Track and push them the same.

Times are most important, a review would be appreciated. Any review could be linked or also posted in the Tuners Garage.
 
Thanks for the quick response.
I'll stick to my same formula for testing then. Good to know I was already looking for the right thing in consistency.
 
Jackthalad
I am interseted in taking part in this as a tuner, the only thing I have to say is that the Premium model cars will have an advantage to the Standard model car because you can install aero kits on them. So maybe it would be good to restrict it to standard model cars. That way you would see a wider variety of cars and also it would be more fair. What do you reckon?
Also we all know that the DC5 Integra is going to be the winner.
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Unfair advantage by adding a 0 DF Front and Rear aero? :lol:
How unfair is it to overuse the Power Limiter?

btw mine is powerlimited by 0.6% ;)


raVer
 
Hey raver, is the speed setting for your tune in mph or km/h ? I had to set it to 168 mph to get the individual gear ratios right
 
It´s mph.
1st :Set Top Speed
2nd : Set Gears
3rd : Set Final

Top Speed of this car is 182 mph @ 9800 RPM


Hope that helps


raVer
 
Hey, how about hyperlink all the tunes on the first page so that it'll be easier to find things rather than flipping through pages of things?
 
-raVer-
It´s mph.
1st :Set Top Speed
2nd : Set Gears
3rd : Set Final

Top Speed of this car is 182 mph @ 9800 RPM


Hope that helps


raVer
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It does, I will revise my review and lap time out of fairness since I got it wrong. My apologies
 
Uhm...afraid my limited skills and the fact I'm running this all using my cell phone makes that a bit problematic.
If Onboy wants to volunteer his skills and that first post he made however to take over the listing of tuners and their tunes...:sly:
 
Well, I'm on holiday and I won't be on my laptop for that long, so flipping through pages of things to find tunes won't be easy……
I'll give it a go though, and if I missed something, tell me.
 
I can do it for you, and I'll PM you the list. You can then copy/paste it into your original post.
Not bad on the lap times Praiano!
 
Onboy123
Well, I'm on holiday and I won't be on my laptop for that long, so flipping through pages of things to find tunes won't be easy……
I'll give it a go though, and if I missed something, tell me.
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Thanks! I'm loving the response for this but feeling a bit overwhelmed trying to keep up. Have had about 4 hours sleep in the last 48 hours...only reason I'm not sleeping now is because I'm waiting to pick my Jeep up from the brake shop so I can work tonight.:(
 
Revised time for Ravers tune. I botched the trans. ratios earlier. Old time 2:04.657@GVS

New correct time 2:04.416@GVS
 
XDesperado67
Thanks! I'm loving the response for this but feeling a bit overwhelmed trying to keep up. Have had about 4 hours sleep in the last 48 hours...only reason I'm not sleeping now is because I'm waiting to pick my Jeep up from the brake shop so I can work tonight.:(
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Yea, same here, had something like……3 hours of sleep on the plane, in nearly two days……and while it maybe an overwhelming amount of reactions now, trust me, it'll be hard to keep it up after a while……
 
Adrenaline
I can do it for you, and I'll PM you the list. You can then copy/paste it into your original post.
Not bad on the lap times Praiano!
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O yes, i always enjoy this glorious moment till you destroy again all my dreams of Aerton Senna digital with yours aliens laps times..:guilty::)👍
 
praiano63
O yes, i always enjoy this glorious moment till you destroy again all my dreams of Aerton Senna digital with yours aliens laps times..:guilty::)👍
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zero_speed
Question for the tuners, has anyone hit or broken the 2 min. barrier yet??
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I'm at 2:01.676 right now, with 490PP and some handling issues still to be resolved. I think 2:00.xxx is reachable, but sub-2min will be out of reach, for the me and the car I'm driving. But it wouldn't surprise me, if someone in the 'best' car and great driver can hit the 1:59's.

I was gunna take Praiano's tune for a spin and see what I could run, a little later today.


Edit:
Onboy has already added the tunes to his post, which is #2.
So far there's only 3 entries.

There does seem to be one mistake though, as I have not signed up to be a driver/tester for this.
Sorry for any confusion, but I won't be able to join you for the testing, so you can remove my name from the list.
 
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Adrenaline
I'm at 2:01.676 right now, with 490PP and some handling issues still to be resolved. I think 2:00.xxx is reachable, but sub-2min will be out of reach, for the me and the car I'm driving. But it wouldn't surprise me, if someone in the 'best' car and great driver can hit the 1:59's.

I was gunna take Praiano's tune for a spin and see what I could run, a little later today.
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Ok then it seems that I am on pace with my 2:01.XXX. I agree that 2 min. is possible. 1:59 for sure with the right car and driver.
 
-raVer-
Do the Gear ratios work better now?

Btw Do you guys cut over the concrete?

Here one of my laps

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTafdRXgStA">YouTube Link</a>

raVer
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Good question. I keep 2 wheels inside the track lines, I've had to hold back on a few laps I cut right over and was up on my ghost by .5 . If you go wide then sharp inside and throttle hard you can hold serious speed with that cut, but be careful it's easy to go too tight and get off the Track. Its the corner I'm still playing with. When I get home and get a chance to run a few more laps I'll work on chopping at that 2:02 from my 4DooR Time, then see how my ITR compares.
 
AssassinTuner
Good question. I keep 2 wheels inside the track lines, I've had to hold back on a few laps I cut right over and was up on my ghost by .5 . If you go wide then sharp inside and throttle hard you can hold serious speed with that cut, but be careful it's easy to go too tight and get off the Track. Its the corner I'm still playing with. When I get home and get a chance to run a few more laps I'll work on chopping at that 2:02 from my 4DooR Time, then see how my ITR compares.
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For the simplicity of the competition, I recommend, just using the standard GT5 green/red laps. Or else, you're on honor system, and then replays have to be verified, etc etc. If it's green it's good, if it's red, disqualified. Anyone can snap a picture of the lap times/leaderboard for verification.

Ultimately it's up to XDes, but this is probably the easiest way to not add unneeded complications to the competition.
 
Adrenaline
For the simplicity of the competition, I recommend, just using the standard GT5 green/red laps. Or else, you're on honor system, and then replays have to be verified, etc etc. If it's green it's good, if it's red, disqualified. Anyone can snap a picture of the lap times/leaderboard for verification.

Ultimately it's up to XDes, but this is probably the easiest way to not add unneeded complications to the competition.
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Agreed.
 

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