Weep for This New Civic Type R, Destroyed Before it Even Got Home

[CyborgGT]

Wasn't the first Indy 500 to have no engine failures also the first year Honda supplied all of the engines? I tried Google to confirm, but all that's appearing is this year's failure for Alonso.

 

[Eyes Fried Open]

What started back in '68? The dominance of nearly 50 consecutive wins? Would you perhaps, care to share some stats of that record? Or let me.

For example, the first win for the car was on May 3 1969 where the car came 1-2 overall which was a worthy accomplishment. However, in some later races:
March 8 1970, the GT-R is claimed to have its 14th win; it won its class, but finished 4th overall behind a Porsche 910 & 906, and a Ford GT40.
April 5 1970, the GT-R gets its 17th win; it wins it class, but finishes 5th, again with the main victor being a Porsche 910.
May 3 1970, the GT-R wins its first outright victory in a race of equal-classed cars for win #19.
March 7 1971, the GT-R has a claimed 37th win; it finished 5th overall with 2 Nissan 240Zs actually taking 1st & 2nd overall.

From my source, the car actually won 34 overall wins, and only 22 class victories over 56 races. That's not bad, but it certainly breaks down the "49-consecutive" win claim which comes across as actually winning 49 races back-to-back when it was just 49-consecutive wins in class.

It's information like this that perhaps explain why most folks don't even know about such a record by Nissan because when you get into the finer details of it, it's about as impressive as when Chevrolet used to boast about how dominating the Corvette was in GT racing at LeMans & ALMS; at certain points, it was basically the only team left that had factory support.

The bulk of the GT-R's motorsport success lies with the R32's few seasons of dominance, where the Godzilla nickname that is now plastered on every R35 owner's license plate came from. Hence why I asked how that's any more valuable than Honda's success in the top tier of motorsports in Formula 1 & being associated with Senna.

That is really interesting when broken down like that. Thanks for sharing the info. I definitely hadn't looked into the background of the claim. Still not a bad record. But not as legit as it seems when you get into the finer details.

Honda do make some impressive tech but so do alot of major manufacturers Senna shouldnt really come into the debate. Senna was a great driver but Senna would have dominated with any of the main F1 teams of the era. Such was his brilliance.

 

[SVX]

Honda do make some impressive tech but so do alot of major manufacturers Senna shouldnt really come into the debate. Senna was a great driver but Senna would have dominated with any of the main F1 teams of the era. Such was his brilliance.

Not really, one look at his final years at the team and you'll see anything but.

 

[McLaren]

That is really interesting when broken down like that. Thanks for sharing the info. I definitely hadn't looked into the background of the claim. Still not a bad record. But not as legit as it seems when you get into the finer details.

Honda do make some impressive tech but so do alot of major manufacturers Senna shouldnt really come into the debate. Senna was a great driver but Senna would have dominated with any of the main F1 teams of the era. Such was his brilliance.

Not necessarily. That's also really unfair to discredit Honda's success with him just because you assume he would've made any of the teams great. That argument also discredits the success of Ferrari because Michael was such an amazing driver back then as well. At the end of the day, that's who they raced & made history with.

Honda's success in Formula 1 is not solely down to Senna, though. It's success lies with other drivers & teams. In that short decade Honda was building engines for Formula 1, they were the powerplant by 6 Constructor's Championships & 5 Driver's Championships; 2 Williams/4 McLaren - Nelson Piquet, Senna x3, Prost. From '83-'92, Honda was the engine manufacturer every Formula 1 team wanted.

 

[nascarfan1400]

The point is that the GTP Newswire team really wants to be Jalopnik; and it wants to be so bad that the content being posted has almost immediately gone to the sort of stuff people on GTP usually mocked Jalopnik for posting.


So his insurance company will give him another one.

I agree. I appreciate the work that the writers put into their work, but at this point it is like the news page is having an identity crisis. I come to GTPlanet for GT news. If i want real car news I have other sites I can go to.

 

[TexRex]

I come to GTPlanet for GT news.

Of which a plethora is available...

I doubt GT news is being withheld as auto news has been deemed a priority.

 

[nascarfan1400]

Of which a plethora is available...

Burried underneath a bunch of random articles with titles that you would see in clickbait ads. Im not trying to be rude, but i think GTP is scooting to far from what made it so great.