Wet weather is awful…

[unfairlane]

At times it can feel realistic, many other times it feels way overtuned, just like the RWD oversteer.
When it actually feels realistic it's great, love a fair challenge. But sliding off the track on a slow corner at 20mph... nah, lol. In ice, yeah, I've had it happen plenty of times irl, but not in the rain.

I still think there's something off in the traction calculation, and hopefully it's as small as changing a number in the .ini (or PS analogue file) so that it is easily fixed by PD

Agree. And as a norwegian I`ve tryed* all kinds of weather, including the worst; rain on hard ice. GT7-rain reminds me of just that,
so slippery you`ll concider to stop the car completely. Rain in GT7 is close to driving my 400hp -64 Fairlane on worn snowtires at icy roads; wheelspin on all gears & the rears will block if I let up the throttle.

* have the software installed to handle all conditions, to "dance" with the car

 

[Noszero]

Wet weather physics suck. AI seems to have no influence from the wet weather while I suddenly have zero grip on the softest available tires I am allowed to run.

Rain is stupid and is ruining GT7. Period.

 

[captbradders]

Rain is stupid and is ruining GT7. Period.

Ruining is a bit strong. I know that it can be a pain, and some prefer to stay away from the inclement conditions full stop, but ruining?

Of all the things that could be accused of ruining the game, I wouldn’t say the rain was it.

 

[Live25]

I would like to know how pale blue can leave less than a 'bar' of surface water 99% of the time and over 2 bars the other 1%. How the **** can you manage your pits with such wild inconsistency?

 

[Nebuc72]

Rain is stupid and is ruining GT7. Period.

I love necros like this because you just know they got angry about spinning out in a wet race and angrily googled "gt7 wet weather races suck" to read about other people complaining.

 

[Dave A]

I think the issue most people are actually having is the weather multiplier, in some races the rain comes in so fast and saturates the track it catches you completey off guard.

I did a race at Suzuka in the GR1 cars and it was just refusing to rain, so eventually I pitted in as I needed to, and between selecting tyres and exiting the pits the rain had started (not on the radar when I pitted) and by the 3rd or 4th corner the standing water meter was up to the middle. I just restarted the race there and then and knew to put wets on, whenever I restart at race the weather pattern remains the same but exiting the race and going back in to it changes it.

Personally I don't find the physics are that bad in the wet as long as I have the right tyres on, but in the races where they use the multipliers, the speed in which it can change can be too dramatic to plan and prepare.

Ragarding the AI, I find they don't prepare well when the weather changes, but they do race very quickly on slicks until the weather hits the second bar. At Le Sarth at least, they are woeful after that point until they've changed thier tyres, but Le sarth is a very fast track as well, which really doesn't gel well with driving in the rain on slicks.

 

[UnkaD]

I think the issue most people are actually having is the weather multiplier, insome races the rain comes in so far ans saturates the track it catches you completey off guard.

I did a race at Suzuka in the GR1 cars and it was just refusing to rain, so eventually I pitted in as I needed to, and between selecting tyres and exiting the pits the rain had started (not on the radar when I pitted) and by the 3rd or 4th corner the standing water meter was up to the middle. I just restarted the race there and then and knew to put wets on, whenever I restart at race the weather pattern remains the same but exiting the race and going back in to it changes it.

Perosnally I don't find the physics are that bad in the wet as long as I have the right tyres on, but in the races where they use the multipliers, the speed in which it can change can be too dramatic to plan and prepare.

Ragarding the AI, I find they don't prepare well when the weather changes, but they do race very quickly on slicks until the weather hits the second bar. At Le Sarth at least, they are woeful after that point until they've changed thier tyres, but Le sarth is a very fast track as well, which really doesn't gel well with driving in the rain on slicks.

The AI are sometimes terrible at reacting to the rain, but at the same time the game lets them get away with so much more. In the Suzuka gr.1 race at one instance I pitted as the rain came in to get the jump. While they did initially slow down I noticed the leaders refused to pit the next lap. Not only that, but they picked up their pace and were maintaining their gap to me, while on slicks with nearly two full bars of surface water.

I just did the Le Mans 30 minute race earlier yesterday and three of the cars stayed out after half a lap of two bars of water. When I watched the replay they would crawl around each corner, but as soon as the road was straight they could just jump on full throttle and not care about their slicks. They were doing 140 mph along the right hand curve after Tertre Rouge at full throttle. I know for sure that would be impossible for the player.

Any pace drop by the AI in wet weather is absolutely artificial, and unfortunately in some instances completely nonexistent. I wonder if it's a related issue to the strange anomalies in their pace during longer custom races as noted by some players.

 

[TypeRDC5]

The weather is one of the best, if not the best part of GT7 for me, I've lost count how many le mans 30 minute races I have done trying out different cars and no race is the same.

I know,but thats when you have started a race.Having a forecast before the race helps to prep your car.

This is the one area I think needs to most improvement when it comes to the rain, would be a game changer.

 

[Boxster]

'Wet weather is awful…'

Tell me about it, I live in Holland

 

[Noszero]

I love necros like this because you just know they got angry about spinning out in a wet race and angrily googled "gt7 wet weather races suck" to read about other people complaining.

Name calling is not necessary to make a point.

 

[daan]

Name calling is not necessary to make a point.

Yet you felt the need to call people "JERKS" in your deleted 1st post? Double standards much.

 

[Noszero]

I love necros like this because you just know they got angry about spinning out in a wet race and angrily googled "gt7 wet weather races suck" to read about other people complaining.

Name calling is not ne

Yet you felt the need to call people "JERKS" in your deleted 1st post? Double standards much.

I made the decision to act responsibly immediately delete that post.. Because it's frustrating to deal with the rain a mistake was almost made. I deleted it. This is pretty hostile for a mod to behave like this. Your supposed to keep the forums friendly and your adding to the problem in my opinion. What message is being sent here?

 

[UnkaD]

Just did another Spa one-hour and I'm noticing a trend where the rain system comes toward the track, but then keeps sweeping around and dissipating just before hitting the center. The game likes to keep me guessing. Also the race came oh so painfully close to passing a green spot over the track, but it missed by one pixel. I want to see just how crazy the rain gets.

Anybody experience green yet? Or even yellow?

Name calling is not necessary to make a point.

I thought necro was in reference to reviving an old thread rather than a title directed to an individual, unless I'm not up to par with my internet lingo?

 

[daan]

I made the decision to act responsibly immediately delete that post.. Because it's frustrating to deal with the rain a mistake was almost made. I deleted it. This is pretty hostile for a mod to behave like this. Your supposed to keep the forums friendly and your adding to the problem in my opinion. What message is being sent here?

If you hadn't made the abusive, aggressive rant then I wouldn't have had to do anything, but yeah, it's all my fault...

 

[Noszero]

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If you hadn't made the abusive, aggressive rant then I wouldn't have had to do anything, but yeah, it's all my fault...

I'm glad you deleted it. I thought I did, I did hit delete on it. We all get frustrated. Negativity isn't helpful. I think blame is irrelevant now. Time to let it go and move on and post something useful.

 

[regnar]

My main issue with the rain is how at low speed is handled, a car would not skid as much as the game exaggerates it, at a slow speeds the force of gravity holding the car to the road is greater,
a vehicle needs to reach enough speed to overcome the resistance of the road to slide, with rain it will get there quicker. Part of the problem that compounds this game is FOV & since of speed,
so you may feel your going 50 mph when you start to brake, in actually your going 90 mph.

In driving for over 40 years I think I encountered almost every type of condition from flooded roads to hydroplaning off,
but never a road that is slippery as ice at such slow speeds.

 

[Stakado]

My main issue with the rain is how at low speed is handled, a car would not skid as much as the game exaggerates it, at a slow speeds the force of gravity holding the car to the road is greater,
a vehicle needs to reach enough speed to overcome the resistance of the road to slide, with rain it will get there quicker. Part of the problem that compounds this game is FOV & since of speed,
so you may feel your going 50 mph when you start to brake, in actually your going 90 mph.

In driving for over 40 years I think I encountered almost every type of condition from flooded roads to hydroplaning off,
but never a road that is slippery as ice at such slow speeds.

You drive with racing slicks IRL?
The slicks have 0 grip with wet tracks. Just see a real race.

 

[DivitLad]

Drive carefully till you get too the pits , clearly overdriving the conditions, I love the wet weather

 

[Rizla]

snip: I love the wet weather

Not a sentence you often hear from a Scotsman.

 

[LSFDRX]

Name calling is not necessary to make a point.

He didn't call you any name though, and I don't know why he didn't tell you that himself.

Necro is when someone digs up an old, dead thread. When a user that has ZERO posts does it, it is likely because, just as @daan said, they searched online because they were mad about it. You also didn't add anything constructive to the thread you dug up, you just came to rant about something many people enjoy about the game because you personally don't like it or aren't good at it.

Do you think "rain is stupid" is a good reason to make a new account and dig this tired conversation back up?

If you Google search GT7 rain racing sucks, this thread is the second result. Looks like @daan called it perfectly. LOL.

 

[05XR8]

I love racing in the rain. WTC 700 DTG, Spa, La Sarthe, Autopolis. To me, the randomness makes it enjoyable. I swear the programming changes when switching between fuel and the radar. If I keep the radar fixed, it’ll creep along for a couple laps. If I watch my fuel and then, switch back, the rain is just about to hit the track and I’ve just passed the pit entry. Sly devil of a program.

 

[Madmaz]

I quite like driving against the AI in the rain.

The AI is stupid and always drives on the wrong tires or into the pits much too late. You can comfortably drive past the other drivers while they go around in circles.

I agree, this is quite annoying . Start a custom race in the rain , they will be on the wrong tyres. The pitting algorithim needs looking at they pit way too late when it rains. Spoils the immersion. I hate stuff like that

 

[RacingFan1]

Thanks to everyone telling me to run wets or inters, I NEVER would have thought of that on my own.
The events I am talking about are the ones where you are restricted to Sport tires only so you can’t run inters or wets.

Sports tires (and soft in particular) are not that bad for rain, they still have treads. You certainly have some grip. You need to go to the racing line where there is the least water on track.

 

[Sunzi]

Fuji WTC800 in a default Gr.3 car with no Assists (TC) is one of the trickiest rain affected events in the game. Depending on how lucky you are with the rainfall (ranges from light blue to 3 shades darker blue), Fuji's last sector is a major contributing factor along with the conditions. In fact the majority of major turns are acute and/or undulating.