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I want to see more sporty saloons like the Alfa Romeo Guilia QV and Audi RS4.
If we ignore the Vision GTs, there's the Ferrari F8 Tributo (2020) and the Ford Shelby GT350R (2020). There's also the GR86 (2021) but that's carried over from Sport.Are there any all new cars? As in, newer than 2020?
The GT350R is from 2016.If we ignore the Vision GTs, there's the Ferrari F8 Tributo (2020) and the Ford Shelby GT350R (2020). There's also the GR86 (2021) but that's carried over from Sport.
GrimIf we ignore the Vision GTs, there's the Ferrari F8 Tributo (2020) and the Ford Shelby GT350R (2020). There's also the GR86 (2021) but that's carried over from Sport.
Vans. We only got the Odyssey, Espace and VW. The HIACE would be fun.
Direct your ire towards Stellantis.Is embarrassing that there isn't the brand Opel - vauxhall in the game anymore..
I don't know what business is behind and why PD didn't include a brand with big history but is simply embarrassing...
Im administrating an opel fan club with 30000 fans with the most of it was waiting to watch their favourite brand in the game again...
If PD read in this forum
They must know that they lose to many fanatic petrolheads..
Ire? I don't see any ire in his comment. Anyways, I think Stellantis would only reply with 'direct your concern towards Opel' and there they would only reply with a 'we don't currently have cars that would be interesting for your game' and when asking about the older models they would say 'direct your concerns toward GM' and GM would just be like 'idc anymore'. That's not to say they ever have.Direct your ire towards Stellantis.
It's not particularly relevant whether there is or isn't..Ire? I don't see any ire in his comment.
Yeah, no.Anyways, I think Stellantis would only reply with 'direct your concern towards Opel' and there they would only reply with a 'we don't currently have cars that would be interesting for your game' and when asking about the older models they would say 'direct your concerns toward GM' and GM would just be like 🤷🏻♂️.
So it wasn't really relevant to imply he was angry in the first place then, right?It's not particularly relevant whether there is or isn't..
Yeah, no.
Stellantis, and I'm pretty sure I've covered this before, has uniquely unified the PR departments of all brands under its control. Unlike, for example, Volkswagen AG or ZHG, which do not exercise overall marketing jurisdiction on the brands they own, Stellantis does. All of the press offices, and press fleets (and heritage press fleets), for Peugeot, Citroen, DS, Lancia, FIAT, Chrysler, Alfa Romeo, Maserati... and Opel and Vauxhall, are now one.
That means all decisions related to publicity, marketing, communications, and PR are directed by Stellantis and not the brands. You want a Volvo, you speak to Volvo not ZGH. You want an Audi, you speak to Audi not VW. You want a Vauxhall, you speak to Stellantis not Vauxhall.
We are seeing the results of this industry-wide, as games are losing access to cars from across all of these brands as existing contracts expire, and no new ones are being added.
The reason Vauxhall and Opel don't have any new cars in GT7 is almost certainly because any deal they had for GT6 came from the deal for GT5 and GT4 (they are after all the same cars from GT4), and expired during GTS's time. Stellantis taking over all operations and not agreeing any new contracts with anyone anywhere has prevented a new deal.
It's embarrassing alright, but not for PD, or for PG who have the exact same issue with FH5. Stellantis is the issue.
GT7, strangely, is getting some new cars in Stellantis brands, but I think they're getting away with it through a grandfathered deal not exercised in GT Sport for the 8C (it was in GT5 and GT6, but not GTS) and because other concerns hold the image rights to the Alfa 155 (whoever currently owns it, as it would have been supplied to a team originally in much the same was as the FINA McLaren F1 GTR LT is a BMW car in the game), the 8C 2300 (also its age might assist with image rights; also they don't need to get Alfa's help to get an example of it), and the Abarth 695 (not sure how this one might work, actually).
And I didn't. I don't know why you've decided I did and are insisting on remaking the point.So it wasn't really relevant to imply he was angry in the first place then, right?
Why can't it be true? It very definitely is true.It's interesting what you are saying. But it can't be true that Stellantis holds all rights even to older model Vauxhalls, that where under GM at that time. So who's to talk to if you want a Vauxhall, but from pre-Stellantis era? Stellantis? How?
Ok, but there are some new to the series cars, to which all of this applies, the Hellcat, the Willys Jeep etc.And I didn't. I don't know why you've decided I did and are insisting on remaking the point.
Why can't it be true? It very definitely is true.
I mean, at its very core, Vauxhall was making an Astra right up to the point GM sold it to PSA, and kept making it afterwards as well. Pretty obviously GM didn't decide it was keeping the rights to the Astra just because it was made under GM at that time, but also it couldn't; Vauxhall owned the rights to the vehicle, so it kept them as part of the going concern when it was sold to PSA.
The same applies to literally any historic Vauxhall too. Vauxhall owns the rights to Vauxhalls, not GM. If Stellantis ever moves Vauxhall on (it won't; it's more likely to fold it up), the rights will move with it.
PSA bought Vauxhall, and Stellantis resulted from PSA merging with FCA. Stellantis owns the rights "even to older Vauxhall models". And I can personally guarantee that extends as far back as 1927, because I've spoken to Peugeot's press office (actually Peugeot and Citroen's press office, as well as Vauxhall's; DS was running as a separate press office back then) about a 1927 Vauxhall, back in mid-2018 - between PSA acquiring Vauxhall and the PSA/FCA merger that resulted in Stellantis.
Stellantis is merely operating all of its brands' marketing, comms, and PR as a single entity right now, which means you need to speak to Stellantis if you want a Vauxhall in the game - any Vauxhall.
Just look at how all Stellantis brands are vanishing from games right now.
The Hellcat is in GT Sport, and the Willys rights are all over the place; while Stellantis owns Jeep which was a subbrand of AMC which bought Kaiser which bought Willys Overland, everything about it is so far out there as to be pretty much uncopyrightable...Ok, but there are some new to the series cars, to which all of this applies, the Hellcat, the Willys Jeep etc.
You said Stellantis is "not agreeing to any new contracts" but obviously, they had to for those cars, if what you say is correct.
Well, it was a woman, and it was regarding a pre-war Vauxhall which she was able to help me dig out the images I needed - as PSA picked up Vauxhall's image archive.What did the guy from Peugeot reply to you?
I didn't know that GT Sport already had the Hellcat, sorry.The Hellcat is in GT Sport, and the Willys rights are all over the place; while Stellantis owns Jeep which was a subbrand of AMC which bought Kaiser which bought Willys Overland, everything about it is so far out there as to be pretty much uncopyrightable...
While Jeep owns the copyright to the name Jeep, the term itself might have come from the shortening of "general purpose vehicle" (general purpose -> GP -> Jeep), and in fact the Willys Jeep wasn't even called that until after the war... but the Ford one - and Ford built, like, half of them - was. The Willys was the MB, the Ford was the GPW. The whole thing was owned by the US Army, which is pretty much how Ford came by the design; Willys couldn't make enough so Uncle Sam gave it to Ford to make as well. Later on, the design went to other brands as well - which we'll get to in a minute.
Then there's the actual vehicle modeled. It could be a Willys MB, or it could be a Ford GPW; there's only one way to tell that's close to accurate, and we haven't seen that angle yet. I'll be checking when the game launches! However at least one of those other brands mentioned above - Mitsubishi - owns an original example of the Willys MB in addition to the fact it made it under licence (its own version looks slightly different, so it's not that). Ssangyong Motor I think also has one, as it too was a manufacturer of licence-built Jeeps under a former guise (Keowha/Dong-A).
Honestly, I wouldn't like to guess where and how the Willys MB came to be in either FH5 or GT7, but Stellantis is not likely to have been involved. Simply by dint of the fact Stellantis hasn't been involved in getting any new cars into anything.
Also bear in mind that Stellantis didn't official come into being until January 2021. Any contracts agreed before then will have to be fulfilled - so if PG/PD/T10/KS/EA/anyone got their contract sorted before 2021 it wouldn't matter if the game that's the subject of the contract came out in 2022 or 2023.
Well, it was a woman, and it was regarding a pre-war Vauxhall which she was able to help me dig out the images I needed - as PSA picked up Vauxhall's image archive.
We got the Toyota GR Yaris 2020.If we ignore the Vision GTs, there's the Ferrari F8 Tributo (2020) and the Ford Shelby GT350R (2020). There's also the GR86 (2021) but that's carried over from Sport.
What all new cars do you want to see in GT7? (All new meaning never seen before in the franchise)
Mazda Eunos Cosmo 20B
Ferrari FXX
Jaguar XJ220
LAMBORGHINI HURACAN GT3
ASTON MARTIN VANTAGE GT3
BMW M6 GT3
LEXUS RC F GT3
Dodge SRT Viper GT 3-R
2006 Alfa Romeo 147 gta
2004 bmw m3 csl (e46)
2000 citroen saxo vts
2009 ferrari 430 scuderia
2000 fiat coupe hgt
2004 fiat barchetta hgt
1992 mercedes-benz 190e 2.5 16v evolution ii
1990 nissan pulsar gti-r
1999 nissan r390
1990 nissan r390 gt1
2000 peugeot 306 gti “6 speed”
2001 peugeot 406 coupe 3.0 v6
1997 toyota celica gt4 (st205)
1997 toyota celica gt4 wrc “castrol edition” (st205)
2000 volkswagen lupo gti
2000 volkswagen polo gti
2000 volkswagen golf gti
All of these, with some plus or minus a model year, have been in previous GT games. They do not fit the purpose of this thread, which is to post cars you'd like to see that have not been in previous GT games.2000 Audi R8 LMP
If they included the Stratus, they'de be smart to bring in the Contour NATCC car (pretty much the same as the BTCC Mondeo). And, you will probably have to build up a 3rd gen Camaro to simulate Hagan's Camaro.More old racing cars I want to drive in Gran Turismo:
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The NATCC Dodge Stratus that never made it to GT2.
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Billy Hagan Camaro Z28 that ran Le Mans in 82 and finished second in class, and also won its class at the '84 24H of Daytona.
The Jimny would be fun. I could see it being in some weird race A daily race.Suzuki Jimny '19 (export)
I mean, we do seem to be getting the F8 Tributo, which is the 488's successor. Still, the 488 (and/or the 488 Pista) would be nice, I would agree. As would the McLaren 720S.I was looking at the confirmed car list and shocked that there is still no Ferrari 488 on there. We've been stuck with the 458 for years in GT Sport, long after it was mostly retired from major racing competitions. Same goes for the McLaren 720S.
From what I heard from @Famine it's mostly because of Lotus. Not Geely, not PD. Lotus.And for the love of Kaz, why haven't they been able to get Lotus back in the game...