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what is the most annoying in GT4?
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What annoys me the most??
- Seeing Suzuka in almost every decent racing series.
- The fact that lot of the cars only come with one number, you should be able to customize your number and wing mirror and bumper strips.
-The fact that that you can litterally toast ANY competition, even the F1, win by fudging miles and yet STILL, SUCK at the driving missions.
Nothing prepares you for that kind of difficulty, nothing else demands that kind of flawless driving, so it sticks out too much and well... For a racing game to have it's silly spin off time trials harder than almost any other race in the game... Is a bit stupid. Not quite as stupid, however as the long waits.
These waits are why I havent and probably will never be able to do the more difficult lap magic driving missions, I've done a few, but generally, I don't like sitting there for 70 to 120 seconds twiddling my thumbs.
- Drivers aids. WHY? Why can't they come as stock, OFF, AND why can't you alter them during license tests?? I'm tired of the understeer they generate in the delicate situations, they're probably the reason I can't quite crack the golds in the special license.
- Nissan Skylines, I hate them. But that's not my beef, it's the fact there are so few Alfa's in comparison.
- Why can't you just make any racing car black?? If you buy a car you should have the option of basic black, silver or racing colours Take a couple of Skyline's out and whamo, it's possible.
- Right, the biggy. Why can I hit the wall at 200 MPH and carry on like nothing's happened?? I'm sorry, but lack of mechanical (as opposed to visual) is appalling. In fact it's worse, it's bloomin' laughable!
Nothing, repeat, nothing urges you to drive properly in that game, until you get to the driving missions, the opposition is so disgustingly easily to beat, even with vastly inferior cars that, there's no real incentive to learn how to drive properly because the licenses are that easy, as long as you don't crash or go on the grass you're almost guarantee'd success. If you crash a P1 car at 230 mph, that should be it, it should either be game over or a trip to the pits.
- Manual Transmission should be manditory, I hate going round a friends and accidently starting with automatic selected, I hate the computer interfering with my driving!
- I agree with the saving during enduro's, I'll be honest, I havent driven many full enduro's because well, I can't be arsed to sit there for all that time, and no one I know can be either. It's only the staunch players who are prepared to plough that much dedication into the game that's gonna' do that, and what do they get to show for it?? It's not like if you drive the entire of Sarthe II you get a gold Bentley instead of a green one, is it??
That needs to change too!!
Man... you'd think I hated this game, I don't though!
- Seeing Suzuka in almost every decent racing series.
- The fact that lot of the cars only come with one number, you should be able to customize your number and wing mirror and bumper strips.
-The fact that that you can litterally toast ANY competition, even the F1, win by fudging miles and yet STILL, SUCK at the driving missions.
Nothing prepares you for that kind of difficulty, nothing else demands that kind of flawless driving, so it sticks out too much and well... For a racing game to have it's silly spin off time trials harder than almost any other race in the game... Is a bit stupid. Not quite as stupid, however as the long waits.
These waits are why I havent and probably will never be able to do the more difficult lap magic driving missions, I've done a few, but generally, I don't like sitting there for 70 to 120 seconds twiddling my thumbs.
- Drivers aids. WHY? Why can't they come as stock, OFF, AND why can't you alter them during license tests?? I'm tired of the understeer they generate in the delicate situations, they're probably the reason I can't quite crack the golds in the special license.
- Nissan Skylines, I hate them. But that's not my beef, it's the fact there are so few Alfa's in comparison.
- Why can't you just make any racing car black?? If you buy a car you should have the option of basic black, silver or racing colours Take a couple of Skyline's out and whamo, it's possible.
- Right, the biggy. Why can I hit the wall at 200 MPH and carry on like nothing's happened?? I'm sorry, but lack of mechanical (as opposed to visual) is appalling. In fact it's worse, it's bloomin' laughable!
Nothing, repeat, nothing urges you to drive properly in that game, until you get to the driving missions, the opposition is so disgustingly easily to beat, even with vastly inferior cars that, there's no real incentive to learn how to drive properly because the licenses are that easy, as long as you don't crash or go on the grass you're almost guarantee'd success. If you crash a P1 car at 230 mph, that should be it, it should either be game over or a trip to the pits.
- Manual Transmission should be manditory, I hate going round a friends and accidently starting with automatic selected, I hate the computer interfering with my driving!
- I agree with the saving during enduro's, I'll be honest, I havent driven many full enduro's because well, I can't be arsed to sit there for all that time, and no one I know can be either. It's only the staunch players who are prepared to plough that much dedication into the game that's gonna' do that, and what do they get to show for it?? It's not like if you drive the entire of Sarthe II you get a gold Bentley instead of a green one, is it??
That needs to change too!!Man... you'd think I hated this game, I don't though!
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Hypnotoad, I'd like to react to your points on drivers aids and manual transmission.
Although I started once driving auto, I agree that driving manual improves the game experience as does switching off the aids (I do use a bit of TCS on some cars, though
)
But I think it's very good that the options to use the aids or manual transmission are there. I go through the options of every new game, so it doesn't matter for me what the default option for any setting is.
My girlfriend wants to start a new game. She likes the beauty of a lot of the cars, likes the speed and definately likes the Logitech wheel, but she isn't really into the realism aspect of the game and doesn't have the need to master the driving. In short: she likes the game as a game, not as a challenge.
Yesterday she asked me whether there was an "easy mode". I told her there wasn't, but that the nice thing about the game is that the player can decide the difficulty for (almost) every race. Drivers aids and the option to shift automatically add to the posibilities to have a nice drive without having to practice a lot. I haven't played any other racing game that had the flexibility GT4 has.
Regarding the missions: I don't think my girlfriend will ever have a crack at the driving missions.
Although I started once driving auto, I agree that driving manual improves the game experience as does switching off the aids (I do use a bit of TCS on some cars, though
)But I think it's very good that the options to use the aids or manual transmission are there. I go through the options of every new game, so it doesn't matter for me what the default option for any setting is.
My girlfriend wants to start a new game. She likes the beauty of a lot of the cars, likes the speed and definately likes the Logitech wheel, but she isn't really into the realism aspect of the game and doesn't have the need to master the driving. In short: she likes the game as a game, not as a challenge.
Yesterday she asked me whether there was an "easy mode". I told her there wasn't, but that the nice thing about the game is that the player can decide the difficulty for (almost) every race. Drivers aids and the option to shift automatically add to the posibilities to have a nice drive without having to practice a lot. I haven't played any other racing game that had the flexibility GT4 has.
Regarding the missions: I don't think my girlfriend will ever have a crack at the driving missions.
Yeah, I was exaggerating the manual thing a bit, it's all well and good for me being able to use it, but not everyone can. I just wish the game would know it's me driving!!
About TCS, I confess to using a bit of that too, but only to help tire wear.
I just sort of wish you had a setting so when you bought a car it'd come with the drivers aids off.
About TCS, I confess to using a bit of that too, but only to help tire wear.
I just sort of wish you had a setting so when you bought a car it'd come with the drivers aids off.
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In all honesty, the driver aids make cars more difficult to drive when they're stock; all they do is slow you down massively. For those of us who completed GT1 (where there are no aids) and GT2 (where the aids cost $50,000 and barely make a difference once they're installed) having these devices ON (10-10-7) is actually detrimental.
Makes me wonder how many newbs start GT4 then barely make progress thru the game because they don't realize they're being held back by "technology". 💡
Makes me wonder how many newbs start GT4 then barely make progress thru the game because they don't realize they're being held back by "technology". 💡
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I agree that driver aids slow a car down
, but they do improve the handling in situations in which a car has the tendency to oversteer or understeer. Newbs might actually be faster with driver aids on, because they spend less time in the sand
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I agree that driver aids slow a car down
yeah that's a good point. I'm just wondering tho if GT1 had driver aids, would I have relied on them when I was new? Know what I mean?
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They did have driving aids back then in GT1 and 2, but each of them costed 50,000Cr.
No driving aids in GT1 at all. Go pop your disc in (if you still have one). Back in the mid-90's when GT1 was in development, most car-makers weren't using traction & stability controls in their production cars like they are now. Yeah there are a few exceptions to this, but for the most part it was new technology--ABS brakes were popular, though.
The aids in GT2 barely made a difference when installed unless you were driving a stoopid fast ride like the Speed 12; and even then it seems the $100,000 you spend on them is a waste of credits. On ordinary cars (or even some full-fledged race cars) the aids in GT2 hardly make a difference.
Anyways, I got something annoying in GT4! NO FIRST GEN RX7s! 👎
I been watching the historic lot and checked everywhere....I have yet to see one! Ofcourse, maybe it's hidden in the game as a prize somewhere...but I'm kinda doubting that.
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Probably not
The physics in GT4 are different, though. I have never played GT3, but loved GT1 and 2. I can remember that I was amazed by the increased feeling of "weight" in GT4 compared to the other 2 GTs I played. I think the cars are a little more realistic and (thus) harder to handle and the aids compensate somewhat for that.
Although I agree that accidently switching on the driver aids when you're used to driving without them actually makes the handling worse...
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I'm sure there are no 1st gen. RX-7s. Also, there are no RX-2s or Rx-3s either. I'd love to be able to tune & drive them in GT4.No driving aids in GT1 at all. Anyways, i got something annoying in GT4! NO FIRST GEN RX7s! 👎
I been watching the historic lot and checked everywhere....i have yet to see one! WTF? Of course, maybe it's hidden in the game as a prize somewhere...but i'm kinda doubting that.
Is the Mazda 110S the only NA rotary engine in the game?
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Awww, you're right! Forgot about that! Several hundred Japanese cars in GT4 but no RX2!!! No RX3!!!! Not even a '90s era RX-6!!
The RX-8 is a rotary.
Another annoying thing is that the handbrake does nothing at all.
Yeah, I noticed that. I mean, I use handbrake occasionally in front-drive cars to sharpen up my corners when I need to...but every time I try & get a decent slide across the finish line all I do is understeer!
It's like; what happened to super-slides!!!??
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So ther handbrake doesn't work? I just assumed i was doing it wrong and making a simple newbie error.
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It works. It just doesn't seem as effective on some cars like it did in earlier Gt games.
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I noticed something sort of annoying last night. When you purchase lots of things, e.g. an oil change, or chassis refresh, they take your money before they've performed the service. Of course, on the plus side, I guess they don't give you an estimate, do the work, and then give you a bill with add-ons above the original estimate . . .
And, anyway, there's no way the cash deduction feature is most annoying . . .
And, anyway, there's no way the cash deduction feature is most annoying . . .
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Spending loads of money on a Caterham Fireblade only to have the game say you can't race it. Why did I buy the car if I can't race along other vehicles. It's a complete waste considering it's such an awesome car.
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that's exactly how I feel about the Plymouth Prowler....why can't I frickin RACE it? I guess I can do some Family Cups but why can't I take it to the FR Challenge? the Clubman? 👎
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Nope.
Can't do family cups, either.
Basically any car with fenders that move with the wheels can't be raced.
Yes i agree with all of your reply's. The thing i find most anoying is that you cant choose weither to supercharge your car or turbo your car. And even if your car is supercharged you cant hear the sweet wine coming from it. My final thing is that you cant hear the turbo on your car if your in the outside view. Anyone agree?
thanks
thanks
As a rotary nut i agree with the lack of a first gen rx7, rx2 or rx3, how bout an r100. Then there is the fact that what you can buy as an 85 rx7 is an fc. Wtf 85 was the last year of the fb rx7. Does it bother anyone that you can get a carbon fiber driveshaft for any rear or all wheel drive car when in reality i am postive they dont exist? Then there is the chip you can put on classic cars that dont have computers. Almost anyone who builds muscle cars will up the displacement but it is not available for any muscle car. And has anyone found a car that yaw control is available on?
Then there is rally. Now in real life i love rally racing, those drivers are some of the best in the world. When is the last time you have seen laps in a rally? Ok there is rallycross but what happened to the only real rally track, Pikes Peak? And is there a way to win the ice races without running as a slot car? By that i mean putting the back bumper on the outside of the corners and keeping it pinned. I love the gran turismo series, but why all the fantasy tracks, when the world is full of great real tracks?
Then there is the horrible soundtrack. Worst of the series. Glad i can turn that off! I would also love to see a little more effort in the engine sounds on gt5, i mean gt is better than need for speed but the sound on nfs is soooo much better. Only reason i play nfs. The only decent v8 sound i have found on gt4 is the shelby cobra. And that is only if ya leave the stock exhaust on.
What happened to the escudo pikes peak car? On gt3 it was still controlable with 1800 hp and now it is only buildable to a tad over 1000 and completely useless because it does nothing but roast the tires as soon as the boost kicks in, even with full super stickies.
Then there is rally. Now in real life i love rally racing, those drivers are some of the best in the world. When is the last time you have seen laps in a rally? Ok there is rallycross but what happened to the only real rally track, Pikes Peak? And is there a way to win the ice races without running as a slot car? By that i mean putting the back bumper on the outside of the corners and keeping it pinned. I love the gran turismo series, but why all the fantasy tracks, when the world is full of great real tracks?
Then there is the horrible soundtrack. Worst of the series. Glad i can turn that off! I would also love to see a little more effort in the engine sounds on gt5, i mean gt is better than need for speed but the sound on nfs is soooo much better. Only reason i play nfs. The only decent v8 sound i have found on gt4 is the shelby cobra. And that is only if ya leave the stock exhaust on.
What happened to the escudo pikes peak car? On gt3 it was still controlable with 1800 hp and now it is only buildable to a tad over 1000 and completely useless because it does nothing but roast the tires as soon as the boost kicks in, even with full super stickies.
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GT4 didnt make a real effort with the tracks IMO, heck, they coulda modeled alot more tracks than that, in a day... Barrel springs racetrack,, though not famous, its an easy track to model. As well as Silverstone. some of the F1 tracks would be hard, but i mean, WHY NOT do them?!
the thing that bugs me is the ebrake...
the thing that bugs me is the ebrake...
&uotThe rally racing in this game, just like the first ones, just isn't worth it. Rallies shouldn't happen on closed circuits between two cars, they should occur on point to point road segments.
The physics are off. They only call one of the circuits an "ice race; (Whistler, which I absolutely LOATHE), but every rally feels like you're driving on ice unless you're on the tarmac, at which point your snow/dirt tires become useless and you can't corner for s***.
At the 5 second penalty? Come ON. If I'm racing a rally car on the same circuit against another rally car, then I assume I'm in a rally-cross race, where bumping/nudging is part and parcel of the proceedings. Here, I get punished for trying to pass on a stupidly narrow course, yet I get the bejesus rammed out of me if the other guy's trying to pass me. Ridiculous.
Please, PD, please. Either include proper rallying in GT5, or don't include it at all and for god's sake, get rid of that infuriating 5 second penalty. Contact is part of most forms of racing, save the open wheel stuff where speeds are too high and the cars to light/delicate. Thus, it should be allowed here ESPECIALLY in rally-cross style events.
The physics are off. They only call one of the circuits an "ice race; (Whistler, which I absolutely LOATHE), but every rally feels like you're driving on ice unless you're on the tarmac, at which point your snow/dirt tires become useless and you can't corner for s***.
At the 5 second penalty? Come ON. If I'm racing a rally car on the same circuit against another rally car, then I assume I'm in a rally-cross race, where bumping/nudging is part and parcel of the proceedings. Here, I get punished for trying to pass on a stupidly narrow course, yet I get the bejesus rammed out of me if the other guy's trying to pass me. Ridiculous.
Please, PD, please. Either include proper rallying in GT5, or don't include it at all and for god's sake, get rid of that infuriating 5 second penalty. Contact is part of most forms of racing, save the open wheel stuff where speeds are too high and the cars to light/delicate. Thus, it should be allowed here ESPECIALLY in rally-cross style events.
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In real rally, you drive by yourself, and you go for the best time to win.
So maybe for GT5 they should just put you up against ghost cars with special condition races...
So maybe for GT5 they should just put you up against ghost cars with special condition races...
BobK
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That's what they did in GT2. Moreover, some of the rally races in GT2 were point to point.
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