What members are not getting F5 on day 1?

The PS4 is the superior system by the look of it but sadly it wont have a game of Forza 5 standards for years.

Although when you look at the exclusive titles at launch you would think the XO is the superior system.
Yes, maybe you are right. Right now I believe I am going to buy the X-Box One and FM5, but unlike others i am not so happy about what is known about the game especially the lack of race cars and the fact that there are no endurance races and I am still hoping to see a upgraded Nürburgring. I have seen the demo but not played it at a local gameshow. It looks much better than GT6 which was also shown there especially in Forzavista. The cars just look stunning there.
But right now, I I had to choose one of these two games I would get GT6, because I love endurance racing, which adds a little strategy to racing and because of the missing night/weather in FM5. But I fortunately I get both.
To say the truth I might even prefer FM4 to FM5 if they don't reveal some more race cars on wednesday.
 
Think you need to look up the definition of pedantic. FM5 has a completely new physics engine. So trying to claim GT5 is more realistic than FM5 will be, especially when GT5 gets so much wrong that FM4 gets right, one example being torque steer, is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

I can't seem to find the part where I claimed anything like this at all...

Whatever. FM5 will be the best most realistic racing game ever to grace a console. That better?
 
I can't seem to find the part where I claimed anything like this at all...

Well...

Me. I did have it [Forza 5] pre-ordered, but after recently getting a ps3 and realizing GT feels sooo much more realistic, I decided to save myself a grand by just getting a g27 and gt6 instead :)

I added brackets in case it was unclear what "it" was.
 
Well...



I added brackets in case it was unclear what "it" was.

Yes, that would be a forgivable misinterpretation if I hadn't clarified it in my subsequent post:

Russellfart
I meant GT5 feels better than the previous Forzas I have played

But he chose to ignore that and continue pointlessly arguing a now moot point...

I'll be sure to run any future posts by a multitude of professional proof readers from now on, and also try to omit any semblance of personal opinion.
 
I can't seem to find the part where I claimed anything like this at all...

Whatever. FM5 will be the best most realistic racing game ever to grace a console. That better?

No it's not better. I haven't played FM5 yet so I've no idea what it will be like. Listen, you made a bold statement to back up your choice of not getting FM5. I called you on it and your now in a bit of a bluster. You don't actually need a reason to not choose FM5. Your free to make that choice without having to explain yourself, just don't make bold statements that are so questionable.
 
Your free to make that choice without having to explain yourself, just don't make bold statements that are so questionable.

He can make any statement he wants as it's clear it's his personal opinion. But of course you are free to question that, but he already made it very clear that it's a personal opinion. Driving in Forza4 seems to be a little more realistic than in GT5 to me.
 
After been playing the Demo yesterday for some time o will NOT get FM5 at release. We dont even know when the Damn XBone will be realesed in Sweden...

A huge Dissapointment when playing the game.. :(

I hade to high hopes for it..
But i guess the demo is an old build so will have to play the whole game
 
After been playing the Demo yesterday for some time o will NOT get FM5 at release. We dont even know when the Damn XBone will be realesed in Sweden...

A huge Dissapointment when playing the game.. :(

I hade to high hopes for it..
But i guess the demo is an old build so will have to play the whole game

You are one of the first people I've seen to try out and not love the game. Can't wait for it to come out. Looks so far superior to anything we've ever seen on a console. This is the first time I'm not considering a GT game because I think they were crazy to stay with the PS3. I'll probably get a PS4 and GT7 when they come out in a few years but until then can't wait for FM5 and P Cars next year.
 
The Xbox One won't be available on my country this year, according to Microsoft. However, this will actually play to my advantage because I was hoping to know a couple of things about the game's Free-Play mode and drivatars before making a purchase. This should give me enough time to find out, through those who will play the game, if my desired features are present.
 
If GT6 wasnt coming out this year, and I knew for a fact that my GT2 wheel was compatible, then maybe I would give in and get the XB1 and FM5. I really do wanna experience the next gen of gaming asap, but I am gonna control my urge and bide my time for now. Though I'm sure I will be banging my head once I start seeing vids and photos of it.

No you won't looks very arcade.. GT6 will satisfy more long term.
 
This is the first time I'm not considering a GT game because I think they were crazy to stay with the PS3.
That's because PD is sticking to what they've continued doing throughout those 15 years, having both GTs on one PS console. It doesn't matter if either game is on current gen or next gen as long as they have enough content and are worth purchasing. No need to throw in "X game is more suprior than Y game" nonsense.
 
No you won't looks very arcade.. GT6 will satisfy more long term.

Ah, this again. Never gets old.

That's because PD is sticking to what they've continued doing throughout those 15 years, having both GTs on one PS console. It doesn't matter if either game is on current gen or next gen as long as they have enough content and are worth purchasing. No need to throw in "X game is more suprior than Y game" nonsense.

I don't see you asking everybody to stop with the "nonsense" over which game is superior when the two names are switched...
 
I'll gladly take FM "arcade" over GT "simulation." Have played GT 1-5, GT5P and only FM4 since Jan 2013. That was enough to get me to drop GT all together, I still have my PS3 but will not be purchasing 6 nor a PS4 for GT7.

Merely try to give them some friendly advice.. a new console is very expensive...
 
I'll gladly take FM "arcade" over GT "simulation." Have played GT 1-5, GT5P and only FM4 since Jan 2013. That was enough to get me to drop GT all together, I still have my PS3 but will not be purchasing 6 nor a PS4 for GT7.

Even if that means buying an expensive new console with no Fanatec steering wheel support?
Sounds like you are just being plain stubborn.

I have Forza 2 and 4 on Xbox 360 - they are great - but I won't be buying a Xbone.

Advice by skewing details and treating personal opinion as gospel?

I admit that was a bit cheeky even though I am clearly right (joking) :-)

From Admin: Use the Edit button instead of double-posting!
 
i don't own one and why would i have bought a new wheel for an 8 year old system? and ignore list
 
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why would i have bought a new wheel for an 8 year old system?
I did that, so I might as well answer the question.

Simply put, there's more than the Xbox out there. Someone who doesn't game exclusively on the console might want to get the gear he desires at some point. In that case, it'd be plain annoying to have your plans dictated by the release cycle Microsoft (or Sony, if we were talking about the PS4) have decided on. Let's also keep in mind that, with other platforms, it'd be no problem at all to keep using your wheel after a hardware upgrade, it seems. On my PC, I'd never run into a problem like that and Sony's not disabling the Logitech PS3 wheels, from what I've heard. I can't see how the fault lies with the consumer, in this case. Microsoft created a proprietary standard for the Xbox. Fine, they only want licensed products to sell for their Xbox. I get that and I'm willing to pay the premium the manufacturers demand (which they, in turn, justify by the licensing fees). Changing that standard up again... Why?

Using the XID interface over an HID interface does have its merrits, I agree with that much. But, what merrit does changing that up again have? What's the point, aside from forcing someone to buy XBOne specific peripherals again? See, I love Forza and I would buy FM5 in a hearbeat. But that's not the kind of behaviour towards customers that I'm going to support.
 
I think we all get that you will be bummed if there is no triple screen support come release and some other features that you want to be in. A position that you are fully entitled to hold but do you have to litter every active thread in this section by saying the same thing over and over? You already started your own thread about lack of triple screen support. Can it not all go in there?

I went triple screen for GT5 and race PC sims in triple screen so I understand what you are talking about. However, the lack of it is not going to make me enjoy F5 or any other game that I can't use a triple set up any less.

But you guys spew the same thing over and over. Oh right, only positive things are allowed. Gotcha. FM5 is a watered down cash grab. DLC first day for cars that should be in the game? No Ring? No triple screens, this game is rushed. Why did they even waste time with horizon?

Anyway, hope you enjoy it.
 
If the game was rushed it would have 1000 cars and a lot of old tracks, I'm guessing you're new to the Forza series so you may not know that every 2 years without fail a new FM comes out, you may also not know that the last 2 titles with Forza as their title comes with Day one DLC, can we please stop getting on as if this has jumped out from behind a wall and scared everyone?

They didn't waste time with horizon since T10 did not develop it, playground did, that's like saying why did Infinity ward waste time on BlackOps2.

Nurburgring is rumoured to be making an appearance in Jan/Feb because it has needed a full remodel, if they just threw the same old inaccurate 'ring would you be happy? Or would you be angry that they didn't remodel it?
 
But you guys spew the same thing over and over. Oh right, only positive things are allowed. Gotcha. FM5 is a watered down cash grab. DLC first day for cars that should be in the game? No Ring? No triple screens, this game is rushed. Why did they even waste time with horizon?

Anyway, hope you enjoy it.
Oh I will, and GT6, and Asseso Corsa, and PCars, and Rfactor 2, and WRC 4, and F1 2013, and etc. And while the rest of you sit and stew and bitch and moan about games you have no intention of buying I'll be enjoying playing them all with a big smile on my face ;)
 
you may also not know that the last 2 titles with Forza as their title comes with Day one DLC
The only day 1 dlc FM4 had were the pre order pack and the muscle car pack. Muscle car pack was included with the season pass. It was not available to purchase by anyone else for a while if I remember correctly. Bonuses for those who pre-ordered/shelled out for the SEASON PASS.
Same goes for FM3. They had the VIP pack for the LCE and EVERYONE who bought the game NEW received tokens for a FREE Legends Pack and the track pack.
Any of this info incorrect?
 
Then maybe I'm wrong but I could swear that the Aventador came as part of a day one DLC or maybe it was the first month
 
Aventador was the main star of the November pack, month after release.

Nurburgring is rumoured to be making an appearance in Jan/Feb because it has needed a full remodel, if they just threw the same old inaccurate 'ring would you be happy? Or would you be angry that they didn't remodel it?
DO we know when Nurb was scanned?
I wonder if they thought of leaving other newly scanned tracks off for DLC but then they realized that people would likely not be as willing to pay for them as they would for the Ring. Seeing that now you can compare your time to those of real world times and how big of a deal we know it is to those somewhat new to the whole "car thing".
See how nicely all that fit together for them?
 
I'm not going to argue a fact of them deliberately holding things back to make money from them, simple fact is it doesn't annoy me, I would rather pay extra for a rescan than have a rehash included, it also could be entirely possible that it was a late decision to dump the old 'ring and rescan it, lets not forget the time it would ultimately take to scan the 'ring and model it and its surroundings, so it is ultimately possible that it just wasn't ready in time, who knows.

(this is of course basing it on the possibility that it was scanned by T10)
 
Well, where do I begin with this one?

Let me preface my little rambling by saying that I've generally been quite positive about Forza. Moreso than Gran Turismo, to the point that some might have considered me a Forza fanboy when I took part in the corresponding threads - which I refrain from, these days, but whatever. So, don't take any negative thoughts or expressions about Forza as mindless bashing. It isn't.

Personally, I don't think a bi-anual development cycle is very healthy for the game. Especially now that it launches a new console. It's a bit of a missed opportunity. I know that Microsoft needs as many high profile titles in their line-up at the release of the XBOne, especially now that some of Sony's launch titles have been released. Having exclusives such as Halo and FM might help them out when they need it the most. That still does not change my opinion about the game just needing a bit more time. Frankly, cutting staple tracks and adding them in via DLC later on, that's something that does tell me that a bit more time spend on developing the game would've been a good idea. People have been asking for day and night transitioning or at least night racing since it was removed from FM1 - and it never made a return. I'm quite sure, however, that it would've made it into Forza if it wasn't released every other year. That just doesn't help with getting the game evolved. Scratching other features because the majority of players doesn't care doesn't help, either.

See, I don't mind the DLC structure myself. I don't mind paying a huge wad of cash on a game that it thouroughly enjoy. A game like Forza 4 being supported for half the time it takes until the successor comes out is a great thing in and off itself, so that's actually a plus in my book. So, yeah, I am okay with that, but I still find it hard to argue against the idea that it is quite a money grab. There isn't much I can say to make people rethink their position when they're calling it out as such because, quite simply, whether I perceive it as decent value or not, it probably is.

Would I, personally, still get FM5? Yes, I would. If it wasn't on the XBOne, I'd definitely be preordering it, even. That's the dealbreaker for me, none of the 'small' stuff. But I do fully understand why it is rubbing people the wrong way that there's certains tuff that we've come to expect from Forza are missing. To be quite honest, I do feel a little bit like Turn10 could go the way of Slightly Mad Studios, in that their publisher's decison making starts to negatively affect their games.
 
Oh I will, and GT6, and Asseso Corsa, and PCars, and Rfactor 2, and WRC 4, and F1 2013, and etc. And while the rest of you sit and stew and bitch and moan about games you have no intention of buying I'll be enjoying playing them all with a big smile on my face ;)

Trust me, I have them all so my smile is as large as yours. I play them all in ultra wide FOV to boot, which is why Turn 10 is drawing my ire. Check my youtube channel I have a video of it running on three projectors, and I can't go back to the narrow horse blinders view of a single display.

Like I said, enjoy. :)
 
Trust me, I have them all so my smile is as large as yours. I play them all in ultra wide FOV to boot, which is why Turn 10 is drawing my ire. Check my youtube channel I have a video of it running on three projectors, and I can't go back to the narrow horse blinders view of a single display.

Like I said, enjoy. :)
Then that really is your problem. As I said, I game on triple monitors and can very easily handle moving to a game that doesn't support the feature. Just as I can get huge enjoyment playing a game on a Vita or DS3. Triple screens are fantastic, they hugely add to the experience but if the game you are playing is crap, the experience will be crap and no matter how many monitors you have will change. So for me it comes down to the games, if they are good enough it doesn't matter how few monitors I have. And I certainly wouldn't want to miss out on a great game experience because one feature was missing. Seems to me your cutting your nose of to spite your own face.
 
Yeah good for you, I can't. Trust me, I'm devastated as far as Xbone goes because this game doesn't meet the demands I have for it compared to the old game. I love Forza and I'm not going to play a watered down version of it.
 
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