What returning features will hold back GT6?

[Loyalracer77]

I hope they bring back the Stage 4 Turbo Kit in GT6

 

[dudeondacouch]

I hope they "bring back" turbo kits that MAKE SENSE AND ARE REALISTIC.

 

[Suzumiya]

Drift Trial mode is solely based on wheel-spinning. Fix that, and you got yourself a good mode that has some awesome potential.

 

[Loyalracer77]

what?

 

[citycar]

Pretty much unless all of the points made in the OP are addressed then Gt5 will be my one and only purchase of the GT series.

 

[MSTER232]

Horrible online reliability. For the past 3 or 4 races that I have had on GTP I got disconnected at approximately half-race distance.

What's going on PD? Why can't I drive my races in peace with the reassurance that my hard work will not go to waste and get disconnected half-way through the race?

EDIT:

Problem is having 24h races themselves, considering I don't know of a single circuit-based category or race in which an individual driver does more than 6 hours straight.

But if they were going to force you to change to another driver in the game, it would be one of your sloppy B-Spec drivers. Or if you was going to invite some friends around to resolve the issue of a driver normally not doing more than 6 hours straight in a 24 hour race, then this would only get in the way.

 

[ElementRacer]

Bob at Monte Carlo should not be crashing at the chicane when he is level 40, and driving a ford ka.

Also, bspec drivers should not be allowed to drive a car if it is above their level.

 

[CayenneGT]

Bob at Monte Carlo should not be crashing at the chicane when he is level 40, and driving a ford ka.

Does it really? Wow I'm still happy I never touched B-Spec mode.

I'll played it in GT4 a little bit and that's it.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

As has been mentioned, things will change. Hell, quite a few changed even within GT5 itself during the past two years.

Frankly, I hope that they do as they always have done, that way all of those who incessantly complain about things like the Japanese bias will just go away and play something else = everyone happy.

So you just want the series to stagnate and never try to improve in any areas?

 

[MeanElf]

So you just want the series to stagnate and never try to improve in any areas?

Didn't say that at all. I said they have improved it for each game and have made several improvements in GT5 alone.

How is that wanting the series to stagnate?

 

[Samus]

So you just want them to improve the things you think need improving but things other people want, they're just complaining and would be better off not playing it at all?

Frankly, I hope that they do as they always have done, that way all of those who incessantly complain about things like the Japanese bias will just go away and play something else = everyone happy.

 

[Tornado]

How is that wanting the series to stagnate?

Because the second part of the phrase "do as you've always done" is "get what you've always gotten."

But if they were going to force you to change to another driver in the game, it would be one of your sloppy B-Spec drivers.

Wasn't a problem in GT4. Running lap after lap consistently without damaging the tires or burning up too much fuel is basically what the AI does as a matter of course.

 

[dudeondacouch]

Because I'm pretty sure the second part of the phrase "do as you've always done" is "get what you've always gotten."



Wasn't a problem in GT4. Running lap after lap consistently without damaging the tires or burning up too much fuel is basically what the AI does as a matter of course.

Actually, the GT5 AI is utterly incapable of that without a babysitter.

Regardless of skill level, they will go bonkers when other cars are near, and drive like an old woman when they aren't.

 

[Ills1999]

Those lame time-wasting animations.

 

[MeanElf]

So you just want them to improve the things you think need improving but things other people want, they're just complaining and would be better off not playing it at all?

Again, where did I say anything about what I want over anyone else might want in that post? I said that PD will improve what they feel needs improving, which is what they've always done.

As for the bit about those who should go off to play something else instead, the proclivities of PD should be no surprise at this point, so maybe accept it - all quite simple really. It was those disgruntled fans words that they want to go elsewhere if their particular wishes are not met, in some cases such statements have been repeated ad nauseum. I for one will be happy to see them follow that wish, as surely they'd be happier.

Because the second part of the phrase "do as you've always done" is "get what you've always gotten."

Simply more putting words into my mouth...

 

[Samus]

Just because they haven't addressed the Japanese bias to date (although it has been gradually going down) it doesn't mean it's not still a valid issue to keep pressing PD on.

 

[MeanElf]

Just because they haven't addressed the Japanese bias to date (although it has been gradually going down) it doesn't mean it's not still a valid issue to keep pressing PD on.

My point exactly, most people know this - but do you really expect them to go for a polar shift on that score? I don't.

 

[CayenneGT]

My point exactly, most people know this - but do you really expect them to go for a polar shift on that score? I don't.

That's why we need to speak up.

Also have you played A-Spec mode? They went backwards from GT4, not improve in the slightest.

 

[MeanElf]

That's why we need to speak up.

Also have you played A-Spec mode? They went backwards from GT4, not improve in the slightest.

Twice, all the way through. I don't see it all as being worse than GT4 though. I agree that having shorter races than in GT4 is a step backwards but the rest, not really.

EDIT: And I'm not saying folks shouldn't speak up...but to expect a change just because it has been asked about by a number of people on a forum, which as I've mentioned before, is only a percentage of the whole player base, is a bit irrational...

 

[Samus]

What was better? They added a broken XP system and cut down the races, other than that it's basically the same.

 

[CayenneGT]

What was better? They added a broken XP system and cut down the races, other than that it's basically the same.

*cough* GT Life *cough*

Edit: Well MeanElf you must be the minority to like how GT5's GT Mode was made and this is a thread to see what you liked and dont liked and what you want to see in the next game, I respect that.

Also you must realize most people want something else, something new and fresh besides the same GT mode that's holding this game back on soo many levels. It's time to update, change and risk a new concept to play the game because to a lot of us, it's the same as the previous 4 games and we've had enough of the same with tiny tweaks of 'improvement'.

 

[Samus]

*cough* GT Life *cough*

Huh? We were talking about A-Spec, that is inside GT Life.

 

[MeanElf]

What was better? They added a broken XP system and cut down the races, other than that it's basically the same.

Better graphics with weather and time changes, for admitedly some tracks. Good photomode. I know those are more to do with the game itself as a whole, but it is the core of A-spec, being the main thrust of the game.

 

[CayenneGT]

Better graphics with weather and time changes, for admitedly some tracks. Good photomode. I know those are more to do with the game itself as a whole, but it is the core of A-spec, being the main thrust of the game.

Edit: Sorry, though tthis was the GT Mode thread, hahahahaha.

I must say the game has improved a lot and everyone knows that but the 'game' portion is super lacking, you must acknowledge this. We got a badass sim but a weak game.

Huh? We were talking about A-Spec, that is inside GT Life.

No, it has it's own box. GT Life is part of the entire GT Mode but if you want to keep it in the same category then I agree, same quality as A-Spec Mode.

 

[MeanElf]

Forgot the thread title have we?

[now irrelevant]Yes, this is about GT6 and what features from GT5 the OP feels will hold it back. By inference, talking about GT5 is addressing that - no?

My post that started all of this back and forth was on topic - the rest has led us here [/now irrelevant]

EDIT: Ahh, I see - with you now please ignore the above...

 

[Tornado]

Simply more putting words into my mouth...

How? Either they start changing the way they have done things to take into account more modern aspects of the genre (rather than "do as they've always done") or they will continue to be left behind in those aspects. If you're advocating them to keep staying in their own bubble and ignore the advancements made by their competitors, how is that not going to cause the series to stagnate? I'm all for innovation in the genre, but not at the expense of maintaining parity with what could be considered basic functionality.

Twice. I don't see it all as being worse than GT4 though. I agree that having shorter races than in GT4 is a step backwards but the rest, not really.

Considerably less events (and with it less event variety), but now they are structured in an extremely linear fashion to artificially extend the game length. Unless you max the login bonus or play the blatant band-aid Seasonal Events, prize payouts are lower than they were in GT4, but the game economy is even more heavily skewed as all of the cars cost considerably more (and you can't resell them, and you only get prize cars once unlike every other game in the series).


Where's the improvement?

Better graphics with weather and time changes, for admitedly some tracks. Good photomode. I know those are more to do with the game itself as a whole, but it is the core of A-spec, being the main thrust of the game.

Side modes and how pretty they look have nothing to do with the A-Spec mode of the game. Good features to list on the box, for sure, but not at all an impact on the foundation of the game.

 

[MeanElf]

How? Either they start changing the way they have done things to take into account more modern aspects of the genre (rather than "do as they've always done") or they will continue to be left behind in those aspects. If you're advocating them to keep staying in their own bubble and ignore the advancements made by their competitors, how is that not going to cause the series to stagnate?

Because I didn't say that...also didn't I just say that they are changing things? Just doing so at their own pace is all - so that adage is not always applicable.

I found that I had to 'grind' far more in GT4 than GT3 which is something I didn't like having to do. GT5 started with a similar approach but changed after all of the comments, presumably by people new to the game - otherwise why would they ask for a change?

Nevertheless, I have still played the game for more than two years which is a sign to me of how much I really enjoy it all. That is of course subjective and an opinion, just like yours.

 

[CayenneGT]

Nevertheless, I have still played the game for more than two years which is a sign to me of how much I really enjoy it all. That is of course subjective and an opinion, just like yours.

We're all still playing this game, the core physics and driving is amazing.

We are just sick of the way the game progresses with it's "career" portion. Like I said, you just might be the minority that likes how GT Mode is now and will like it if the formula stays the same, most of us won't.


Question for you, if GT Mode changes how we want it to be, will you welcome it with open arms, give it a chance or just not even attempt to play anymore?

 

[MeanElf]

...We are just sick of the way the game progresses with it's "career" portion. Like I said, you just might be the minority that likes how GT Mode is now and will like it if the formula stays the same, most of us won't.


Question for you, if GT Mode changes how we want it to be, will you welcome it with open arms, give it a chance or just not even attempt to play anymore?

Yeah, sorry I only now saw the edit of your post where you mentioned that - the perils of multiple conversations.

As for any GT life changes appearing in GT6, I'll go for option B thanks: give it a chance. I'm not against change at all, I just think it's unlikely in any radical form - well, not before PS4 at any rate. As you say, that could be a minority view and I accept that others might want something else.

I think it all went a bit squiffy with answering and trying to clarify so many counter-posts.

 

[CayenneGT]

It's ok, we all get in the heat of the moment haha.

That's good to hear you're willing to try it, that's more than enough to know people are willing to stray away from the original forumla and try something new and fresh.