What truly new features does GT6 bring to the series?

[Johnnypenso]

No way. Re-writes and fan demands for details would kill me.

Plus you'd actually have to come up with a plot..something missing in GT5

 

[ECGadget]

What Brend said.
What I would like is a lot more races, but as for completely new features, I would be happy without. But having said that, I don't want to see a half baked attempt at GT6...

 

[Dragonwhisky]

Plot? What's that?

To be brutal about it, I couldn't really give a tin fart in a whirlwind, if GT6 has a plot, and it's highly unlikely I'll pay to see a movie based on the game, plot or not.

I play to drive cars not only will I not ever get to drive on real roads, but will not ever see.

 

[Earth]

Like BBang, I really don't care about new features. A totally consistent and polished GT5 with a good A-Spec mode would more than suffice for me.

Oh boy, we waited 3 years for a consistent and polished GT5?

If GT was released every 2 years, OK, Im fine with it being a polished version of the the previous game. But 3 years? Whats worse is that this is a racing game, You can reuse assets from the previous title like cars and tracks (of the same gen of course). So why does it take 3 years to make a racing game? Just release whatever you have finished every 2 years.

 

[eran0004]

But if you don't know what they are how can you know they're truly new?

Because they weren't there in GT5.

Major features that could not be added with regular updates in the previous episode will now be offered in GT6 as standard.

So yeah, to define if something is "truly new" we need to know something about it, or it's just shooting arrows in the dark.

I'm fine with shooting arrows in the dark. You can measure the impact of gravity on the surrounding space and determine wether or not there's something out there.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I'm fine with shooting arrows in the dark. You can measure the impact of gravity on the surrounding space and determine wether or not there's something out there.

Unless you actually see the impact of gravity on surrounding space all you have is a theory and what "might" be out there. Some people are happy laying out $60 for a "theory" or "what might be", some are not.

 

[GTV0819]

"The ability to build any fully customized car."

I just don't know if it's true but some website did state that.

 

[eran0004]

Unless you actually see the impact of gravity on surrounding space all you have is a theory and what "might" be out there. Some people are happy laying out $60 for a "theory" or "what might be", some are not.

Good thing then that I do see the impact on the surrounding space. It's on gran-turismo.com, where it says that GT6 will have new community features that weren't possible to patch into GT5. Unless those community features were in GT1-4, my theory is that they are new to the series.

And theory does not equal guess, theories are always based on empirical evidence. NASA was pretty happy laying out $25 billions on the Apollo program, which was based almost entirely on theories.

 

[BBang]

Oh boy, we waited 3 years for a consistent and polished GT5?

If GT was released every 2 years, OK, Im fine with it being a polished version of the the previous game. But 3 years? Whats worse is that this is a racing game, You can reuse assets from the previous title like cars and tracks (of the same gen of course). So why does it take 3 years to make a racing game? Just release whatever you have finished every 2 years.

I understand your frustration, I feel the same way sometimes. But there's no use in repeating that statement continously. Classic case of woulda, shoulda, coulda really. I'm not defending PD in any way regarding this, though. It's bad. But not bad enough for me to turn my back on the GT series. You could say that with Forza, things for a racing game enthusiast like me have been better than ever before! I play Forza 4 for quite a while now, with occasional hints of Shift 2 here and there (game works much better on a G25 than it did on my DFGT, by the way), and there are tons of other games to play while waiting for GT6. I have GT6 preordered, and from what I can tell it can only go upwards from here. Will it be perfect? No, I highly, highly doubt it. But I've preordered with that mindset instead of being completely hyped up like I was with GT5. Not expecting huge dissapointment, but not expecting miracles either...

 

[Johnnypenso]

Good thing then that I do see the impact on the surrounding space. It's on gran-turismo.com, where it says that GT6 will have new community features that weren't possible to patch into GT5. Unless those community features were in GT1-4, my theory is that they are new to the series.

And theory does not equal guess, theories are always based on empirical evidence. NASA was pretty happy laying out $25 billions on the Apollo program, which was based almost entirely on theories.

Ok, tell me about these community features, how they work, how you are going to use them in the game and what exactly you are going to do with them, not just "organize races". I'm sure we'd all like to hear it since the rest of us know absolutely nothing. For all we know, it could just be links to social media, but I'm sure you can fill us in on the details enough to help at least a few people make a buying decision.

 

[eran0004]

Ok, tell me about these community features, how they work, how you are going to use them in the game and what exactly you are going to do with them, not just "organize races". I'm sure we'd all like to hear it since the rest of us know absolutely nothing. For all we know, it could just be links to social media, but I'm sure you can fill us in on the details enough to help at least a few people make a buying decision.

Why do I need to do that? The only requirement here is wether or not the features are new, I don't need to know exactly what they are, how they will function and how I plan to use them.

if (feature.property="new")
  {
  echo "Great success!";
  }

 

[Johnnypenso]

Why do I need to do that? The only requirement here is wether or not the features are new, I don't need to know exactly what they are, how they will function and how I plan to use them.

Must be different in Europe. Call us crazy, but on this side of the pond we have this funny habit of wanting to know how something works before we buy it Newer isn't always better, sometimes it's just different, sometimes it's worse and sometimes it's just marketing hype with no real substance.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Will GT6 bring anything new? Really? Undoubtedly. Does it matter? No. Metaphorically speaking, I've finished book 5 of the Gran Turismo series and am ready to open Book 6. Will the same characters be in 6 that were in 5? Yes. Will there be new characters in 6, that weren't in 5? Yes. Will the characters be carrying on the fight against the evil forces, called Friction and Centrifugal Force? Certainly. Will they be doing it very differently? Perhaps, perhaps not. Open the book, turn the page. When you get to the end, if you like it, keep it, read it again, if not, give it to the library and someone else can check it out.

This....well said, well spoken! We simply do not have ALL the information yet to properly answer the the OP.

 

[eran0004]

Must be different in Europe. Call us crazy, but on this side of the pond we have this funny habit of wanting to know how something works before we buy it

So you need to know how something works before you can determine wether it exists or not?

I don't know exactly how the Hoover Dam works, but I'm pretty sure it exists.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Must be different in Europe. Call us crazy, but on this side of the pond we have this funny habit of wanting to know how something works before we buy it

So you need to know how something works before you can determine wether it exists or not?

I don't know exactly how the Hoover Dam works, but I'm pretty sure it exists.

Difference is, I'm not buying the Hoover Dam.

 

[eran0004]

Difference is, I'm not buying the Hoover Dam.

Neither am I. And buying is irrelevant to the question. The question is wether it's there or not.
If you have another question, fine. That's not the one I was answering, though.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Neither am I. And buying is irrelevant to the question. The question is wether it's there or not.
If you have another question, fine. That's not the one I was answering, though.

I see. Can you post a screenshot or some demo footage of this new feature so we can see that it's there?

 

[Samus]

Indeed, we've not SEEN any of these new features yet. Not one. They're just words on paper at the moment.

Doesn't that worry anyone else? Yes I know that isn't required for the topic at hand but I'm talking generally, it's a month before release and we've not seen any new features in action?

 

[AudiMan2011]

I don't think GT6, or any future GT's will have any truly new earth-shattering features because any innovations that do happen will have been done at least once by other racing game developers.

I think the KW suspension rig is only there due to calls for more fine-tuning for racing setups in the game.

 

[oink83]

I think this notion of "features" is pretty misleading in itself to be honest. People get pretty hooked on features, because for the mass-market, "NEW!" is what sells, but not what necessarily makes a good game. For people who play the game more seriously, refinements and improvements, if in enough wealth should be enough to sell the game.

 

[Samus]

I don't think GT6, or any future GT's will have any truly new earth-shattering features because any innovations that do happen will have been done at least once by other racing game developers.

I think the KW suspension rig is only there due to calls for more fine-tuning for racing setups in the game.

No but they can add things new to the franchise, like livery editors. We've seen no sign of that, not one demonstration of how this new course maker works, no demo of the new online features. Again the KW suspension rig, just words. No look at it.

 

[CTznOfTime]

To answer this thread: evolutions, not revolutions.

 

[eran0004]

I see. Can you post a screenshot or some demo footage of this new feature so we can see that it's there?

It's written on the website and was announced in a presentation.

Gran Turismo 6 will undergo a major evolution, after having analysed how our fans play and having heard their feedback throughout the years. Major features that could not be added with regular updates in the previous episode will now be offered in GT6 as standard.

Many more functions will be added to the Lobby, the hub of player versus player races: just to name a few, users will have the chance to create and share Race Events amongst them, and the proper community tools will be implemented to support this new feature. These are all improvements that were generated by suggestion and feedback gathered from our online players.

Community/Club/Race Organizer

• Players can form their own communities
• Various community levels from local and domestic to global
• Players themselves can create and manage their own online events

If that's not evidence enough for this thread, then what's the point of it?

 

[Imari]

It's written on the website and was announced in a presentation.

If that's not evidence enough for this thread, then what's the point of it?

I've got a GT5 manual that says the game has matchmaking in it.

Stuff PD writes is not reliable. Even when we see stuff it's iffy (point to point course maker), but at least then you can say that you've see it functioning.

Sorry, but words are cheap and PD has a bit of a reputation for talking before they're really ready.

 

[photonrider]

We simply do not have ALL the information yet to properly answer the the OP.

Agreed.

And my crystal ball isn't helping either. But time always tells.

 

[Bluntified]

Come on now, how many "new" features do you think a niche genre like this could have? I mean it's racing afterall! How many sports games have just been "re-made" with just minor changes like new team rosters? GT6 is actually bringing a load of new content, while features aren't new, they're still ahead of any sport game in my books.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

The real problem seems to be is, keeping with my literature metaphor, many folks appear to want to read the book before it's even published. I suspect it's so they don't have to buy it, to find out what happens. Everyone's had a chapter preview. Several million people have read one or more of the previous volumes.

I can't say I'm not perfectly OK with the lack of information that's been released so far. I'll buy it when I want, read it when I want, and keep it or not, based on what I've already read and what I think of it, after I've read it.

 

[Samus]

Come on now, how many "new" features do you think a niche genre like this could have? I mean it's racing afterall! How many sports games have just been "re-made" with just minor changes like new team rosters? GT6 is actually bringing a load of new content, while features aren't new, they're still ahead of any sport game in my books.

Plenty of things.

Livery editor.
Minigames.
Completely different/newly structured career mode.
Car creator.
race/series editor.
celebrity racing challenges.
online championships with real prizes.

Not saying I want all of those things in GT but there is still plenty to do that can be considered 'new' to GT.

Oh and sports games release yearly, so it's expected they have less new features than one that takes 3 years.

The real problem seems to be is, keeping with my literature metaphor, many folks appear to want to read the book before it's even published. I suspect it's so they don't have to buy it, to find out what happens. Everyone's had a chapter preview. Several million people have read one or more of the previous volumes.

I can't say I'm not perfectly OK with the lack of information that's been released so far. I'll buy it when I want, read it when I want, and keep it or not, based on what I've already read and what I think of it, after I've read it.

Sorry but this still doesn't work. If you read a book you spoil the main point of it, the story. Knowing how part of a game works when it's not story driven spoils nothing but knowing it exists. What are we going to find out 'what happens' if they show off features in a game that isn't linear? If they show us how the new course creator works for example, what is that spoiling? It's not, it's showing you how it works. You can't compare that to revealing a story plot.

 

[oink83]

Plenty of things..

.

Livery editor

Minigames.What sort of minigames? GT5 has licence tests, speed test, drift trials, special events already which I would consider "mini-games" compared to the main game - Racing.

Completely different/newly structured career mode.If this is supposed to be new features, I think this definitely comes under improvements rather than new features.
Car creator.

race/series editor.

celebrity racing challenges. They had top gear in 5, it wasn't much but I wouldn't say this is new as such

online championships with real prizes. Is GTA not this?

 

[Earth]

Come on now, how many "new" features do you think a niche genre like this could have? I mean it's racing afterall! How many sports games have just been "re-made" with just minor changes like new team rosters? GT6 is actually bringing a load of new content, while features aren't new, they're still ahead of any sport game in my books.

Theres loads of new feature ideas in the things you would like to see in GT6 thread. Something as simple as online knockout racing, where the last place finisher of each race is eliminated until there is only 1 left who wins the 'mini tournament'. And that is just the very tip of the iceberg when talking about possible new features.

These sports games you talk about are released annually. Theres been an average gap of 4 years between the last 3 Gran Turismo titles. More content is expected. And so are more new features. Besides, being ahead of an EA sports title is nothing to brag about.