What WILL you make with a GPS enabled or very detailed track editor?

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I suppose so but that is the definition of getting your hopes up. Personally I will expect the worst scenario and then hopefully be pleasantly surprised.
 
Cool stuff in here guys and yes we might be aiming a little high with "expectations" but who knows what it "could" hold. In the meantime I see this as just good fun as you'll notice I'm not saying how great this WILL be rather just how cool it WOULD be. Just a what if ;)

White & Nerdy
Grand National right? Wouldn't mind having one of those myself. Only problem is a mandatory automatic transmission, which could be troublesome on roads like, say, this.
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Yup GN. I still remember going to the dealership with my dad where he was a mechanic and looking at one he was thingking of buying back in 1987. How I wish he had! I've seen one converted to a 6spd which would obviously make things better 👍

Also, if we had the ability to swap engines these cars make great super stock short track cars. We used to race regals and monte carlos all the time in that class at our "home track" in Slinger, WI. Could make for an interesting spec series.
 
What liveries would you design if you had a livery editor? What music would you write if you bought a guitar?

For me it would be about familiarising myself with the program, and then letting my imagination go from there. One of the best parts about a custom program like that would be being able to "borrow" the best parts of different roads/circuits from around the world and paste them into a circuit/stage.
 
The other thing that would come into play with this I'm sure would be some sort of "filtering" of the datapoints. I presume the generator would try to make sense of jagged points by smoothing them out.

This is a comparison of a route I used to ride all the time on my motorcycle and what I think it could possibly look like after "filtering" and smoothing occurred in the system.

Again this is all highly theoretical but I think it's logical.

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And honestly I'd still be happy driving on that but I don't think we would have "exact" replicas of things that were mapped out.

Waypoint resolution would be another issue. If the GPS data is limited it would become even more "filtered". If your GPS unit records 1 point every 5 seconds but the intake for the generator only allows for the equivalent of 1 point every 10 seconds you could miss entire turns and twists altogether.

In a perfect world the generator would in fact reference google maps but I don't know of any program or game that does that now and honestly can't see it anytime soon. I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong ;)

UPDATE: In terms of low resolution mapping I actually think this is more likely...
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Back on to the what if's...

Could also try mapping out some old abandoned tracks if we had the ability to "push" kml or gpx data which could be mapped out using something like the tool found HERE

How about this?
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Kinda Suzuka like in shape. Read more ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meadowdale_International_Raceway
 
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I think something called Hometown GP which no longer exists used Google maps. Not that well, apparently, but the capability is there. One of the mods or former mods here would know more about it than I would.
 
smskeeter23
Cool stuff in here guys and yes we might be aiming a little high with "expectations" but who knows what it "could" hold. In the meantime I see this as just good fun as you'll notice I'm not saying how great this WILL be rather just how cool it WOULD be. Just a what if ;)
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We know what GPS devices are able to do and what they cannot do. That means....don't get your hopes up.

There are other issues too, such as being able to share your GPS-made tracks, if those can be improved using the track editor and how good or bad the track editor will be (freedom).

In the end the only way of recreating tracks or your daily route is doing it on the pc, playing on pc sims and most probably by yourself. I do see the potential this has though, since in a perfect world you'd be able to do all that practically automatically (gps) and challenge anyone online on who's fastest on your daily route.
 
Johnnypenso
Nothing to complain about there, but it's a little like just racing from hairpin to hairpin. I think I'd prefer the flow of the Targa Florio, but a combination of the two would be great!!
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The Targa Florio is not a race track. Call the track by it's real name please. :)

But there quite a few hairpins on the Piccolo Madonie, probably some on the other circuits too. 👍

Edit: But I don't understand how this concept would work. How would the track boundaries be transferred over? And the change in elevations, how would they be interpreted outside of your line of GPS data?
 
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SagarisGTB
Edit: But I don't understand how this concept would work. How would the track boundaries be transferred over? And the change in elevations, how would they be interpreted outside of your line of GPS data?
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Aren't elevations plotted as well as latitude/longitude coordinates?
 
Yes, but each datum represents a point on a 2D object in a 3D world. One line of GPS measurements isn't nearly enough, you need a lot of data and software to interpret different data points (on track, track boundary, off track, etc.) to get close to recreating anything. That's worlds away from what we have in the GT5 track generator, I wouldn't expect such a thing in GT6 on PS3.
 
one word:HELL
that's what i'd create if I had a more detailed track editor.For the people who have been on my tracks from gt5 like NIGHTMARE,Cemetary Road,La-La Land Cien,Nightmare Cien,Carroll Shelby 89,Nevermore,Colin McCrae....the tracks would make the nurburgring look like a walk through a field of bunnies and tulips with the love of your life
 
SagarisGTB
Yes, but each datum represents a point on a 2D object in a 3D world. One line of GPS measurements isn't nearly enough, you need a lot of data and software to interpret different data points (on track, track boundary, off track, etc.) to get close to recreating anything. That's worlds away from what we have in the GT5 track generator, I wouldn't expect such a thing in GT6 on PS3.
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I would approach it by mapping a single line to get the position and elevation, do a default single, 1.5 , double and triple wide lane based on those numbers and go from there. Of course the closer the distance between points on the line, the smoother the elevation changes and corners, but of course the approach I outlined totally disallows road imperfections that are asymmetrical.

And no, we are nowhere near that.
 
this is my "home track" I always go for a ride in my FD... a beautiful track.. uphill, downhill, fast and slow corners etc.

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Here is a brief list of what I think will likely happen with a GPS feature...

1. All data waypoints would be converted and filtered to a general evenly spaced dataset which is then used to generate a rough outline of the path, broken into sections, without elevation.

2. Road width and banking could be set as it is now for each sector as it is now in GT5.

3. Elevation is set based on the environment map used, not actual GPS data.

4. Track is generated in the same fashion as GT5 in terms of finished file where the whole thing can then be shared with whatever method is used.

Now, the purpose of this thread isn't to keep rehashing all of the technical aspects of how it might work, it's a discussion about what you would do given the ability to do it. And even if highly limited we can still use something in the real world for a very loose base.

At this point I don't really see this thread as much different than the "tracks you'd like to see in GT6" thread only we're talking about what would you like to create instead.

No matter what they give us I'll use it and be happy since anything is better than the algorithms that run the generator now.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming 💡
 
I'd either take the GPS on a boat or plane, because the roads I have here aren't at all that interesting.
If I could use something like google earth, it'd be a lot more interesting.. Combining most of the tracks...
 
The only problem I have is the elevation system, because near my house there is a awsome corner, many people crashed there. It starts with a small uphill section that ends up in a crest. The crest starts with a very little right then a hard left between two buildings, it's complety blind and cars can fly there, but nobody dares to do that though, it's way to dangerous and I love that corner.
 
Such a feature will be great, lot of great roads where I live ... nowadays every smart phone have GPS reciever so what you need is app and support in game.
 
I read this in the 'Brands Hatch Circuit in GT6' thread.....

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CJSpencer77
Yesterday i went into my local GAME store just killing time really and they had this exact same placholder for GT6 except the GPS bullet point had been removed from the back.

Every thing else was word for word as in the above photo including Brands Hatch
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A big sign GPS may not make it :(
 
Just because it is not on the case in question does not mean it will not be included. Granted it doesn't help the likelyhood of it being implemented, it may be something that will take a little more development and will be implemented at a later time. Only time will tell, and we will most likely get our answer at gamescom.
 
So i was going through all the features of GT6 on GT's website when i came across this...

Course Maker
This feature, available at a later stage through an update, will allow you to create your own custom tracks that can be driven in the game. Additionally, in another update we will add the possibility to generate a track by capturing the GPS coordinate data of a mobile app while you are driving that course. This GPS-generated tracks will be available in the game as playable content.


Drive around and make a course?! I can see this being extremely fun if it does happen. I know there is a lake near me which has a track laid out that isn't in use anymore because it was too dangerous. This would be the first thing i create.
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So, i just wanted to know what you guys think of this and what you would do with this ability.
 
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fordman47
So i was going through all the features of GT6 on GT's website when i came across this...

Course Maker
This feature, available at a later stage through an update, will allow you to create your own custom tracks that can be driven in the game. Additionally, in another update we will add the possibility to generate a track by capturing the GPS coordinate data of a mobile app while you are driving that course. This GPS-generated tracks will be available in the game as playable content.


Drive around and make a course?! I can see this being extremely fun if it does happen. I know there is a lake near me which has a track laid out that isn't in use anymore because it was too dangerous. This would be the first thing i create.

So, i just wanted to know what you guys think of this and what you would do with this ability.
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First thing I'm going to make is the street near my house. That I think would be a cool track, and the second thing is a road near me, that my friend said "oh it looks like a racetrack. O.o" honestly its just like a circle, but it would be so much fun to drive around then come home, to your recreation of your car, and then race around where you just were, lol.
 
sk8er913
First thing I'm going to make is the street near my house. That I think would be a cool track, and the second thing is a road near me, that my friend said "oh it looks like a racetrack. O.o" honestly its just like a circle, but it would be so much fun to drive around then come home, to your recreation of your car, and then race around where you just were, lol.
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Exactly. I know so many places where i've driven past and thought, "That would be so much fun to race on."
 
I had started a thread like this earlier in the year when it was all just speculation but now it seems to be confirmed! So lets bring on the ideas again.

1st one I want is Road America (about 40min from my house)

Another three words that come to mind are ISLE OF MAN.

Someone could run up Pikes Peak, Dragons Tail, Hoggsback...

There are a ton of routes in my local town with wicked elevation changes that would make for some great rally stages.

Can't wait.
 

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