Which $3.5-$4.5M car should I buy?

[Dark Elite]

I was waiting for you to come up with a list, D_N , nice work yet again 👍

And you taught me something, I've never tried to trade a Bentley

DE

 

[Zaine2]

Well i have (he says very proudly)
All the limited edition black beasts. I don't rate the Mazda that much. i much prefer the:

drueellll!!!!!!!!!!

I have the Minolta also, pretty good, shame about the braking, gonna change that like someone previousloy posted (ty 4 that) make it 24/22.

Anyway i think i might buy the pescarolos for b-spec driving because it does this best in it unrealistically and unfortunalty, yet again maybe the R8 - German is always G000000000D!
(sorry about the very Large picture)
~Zaine~

 

[xjr-9]

Excellent choice. I managed to get one, and it has brought me no end of pleasure driving around Le Mans. It is VERY quick. The Jaguar XJR-9 is another great choice, but can sometimes be a little wild on the handling.👍 Still great though.

xjr-9

 

[Sausage]

Thanks for the tip Kent, I just got this wrong last night when I bought a Takata Dome NSX to practice for Mission 26. I turned off autosave, had my practice and reset, but of course there I was still sitting in the NSX, with alot of Cr missing!

 

[the razgriz]

go for the playstation pescarlo for 4.5mill (france)

 

[the razgriz]

nevermind
get the toyota gt-1

 

[cleanLX]

Ultimately, the perfect car is going to come down to best matching your driving style. I tend to brake early and softly, and carry high corner and exit speeds and prefer a fine touch to muscle'n something around.

I've never used B-spec., so here's my .02 on cars I've driven.

I've never been happy with the way the Audi R8 handles medium and slow speed corners, or heavy breaking while not in a straight line. Tuned and retuned, and just never felt comfy in it.

I used the Mazda 787b to win the championship the first time. It's easy on tires and I've gotten my fastest lap times with this car. This is a very fast and capable car, but, I do find it takes a lot of concentration to drive it on the edge. It can wear on you in longer races, and cause you to make silly mistakes.

I sold my Toyota GT1 after a couple drives... can't say for sure exactly what I disliked about it, but, I simply couldn't see myself using that car while having others on hand.

I recently won the Toyota 88c-v (Minolta)... have not spent much time with it, but so far it seems pretty decent all around.

The BMW V12 LMP... this is the last race car I've purchased. This little car is a thing of beauty. Acceleration is very competitive, I've yet to be left on a standing start race, and can pull on cars comming out of corners. Getting into corners is drama free. The brakes are awesome and the chassis will alow braking on turn in, and even mid corner. I liked this car so much, I took it to the championship having done nothing but bought tires, and won by a giant margin in points. It's easy to drive on the edge, easy on tires (never made a single pit stop) and just plain fun.

These are all the cars I have experience in.

If I were starting the game over, the Bimmer LMP race car would be my first purchase.

The Nissan 390 just does not stir my sole. It seems ok at everything, but I've yet to use it in a race.

The Nissan R92 is a monster. If this car does not excite you than you and I differ significantly... however, for some reason, I've yet to use it in a race. It powers out of turns with authority, and, that's good, 'cause I just cannot get it to turn as good as others.

The Pescarolo Judd is a real treat. Awesome acceleration, stable at all times, and wicked breaks, but I do find it pushes it's nose a little in medium speed sweepers while on the power trying to keep the speed up and the scrub down. I like this car a lot, but have not had the time to race it.

 

[Orion]

*SNIP*

+Rep, the best first post I have ever seen. 👍

I say go for the R92CP in back, as it only cost around 1,200,000, and can be tuned to have 1155HP, the thing is it never looses HP, because like all used cars, it already lost all it could. You just need to feather the throttle with this car, it can be like the purple tire eater (Jaguar XJR9) at times, especially with turbo kit.

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

+REP from me as well, excellent post cleanLX, and not just a wonderful example for new members, but all members. 👍

 

[Smallhorses]

Ultimately, the perfect car is going to come down to best matching your driving style.

Not to jump on the bandwagon here, but that first sentence sums up the whole premise of the original question perfectly!

What's perfect for one, isn't necessarily perfect for all!
A welcome reminder that new members don't just come here to post random crap, and start new threads for the fun of it! 👍

+Rep from me too! (clicky the red tick by your post to see what we've said!)

 

[BobK]

cleanLX's post is probably the definitive answer to this question!

 

[FastFerrari]

buy the C9 mercades.....or Toyota GT-1

 

[Smallhorses]

buy the C9 mercades.....

Erm. The Sauber Mercedes C 9 Race Car '89 retails for -- Cr.
Which means you can't actually buy it!
It's winnable from the Formula GT World Championship in most versions, although I believe it's a prizecar for some other event in the Japanese version, nevertheless, it doesn't apply to the "Which $3.5 - $4.5M car should I buy?" question.

 

[Avery GT]

Hmm, my favourite is Toyota Minolta (not sure if you can buy that one) or Pesacrolo C60, i think that one is for 4,5 mil...so that's what i recommend 👍

 

[MikeB]

The Black Mazda 787b... I'm in love with it .

edit// Wait... I guess that wouldn't fit under the category 3.5-4.5 million either. Darn.

 

[0wn3r r4c3r]

to be honest i chose the audi R8 race car and although people say the persceralos are better i dis agree the R8 is the best car in the game after the F1 car

 

[BlackedoutRX7LM]

I agree the R8 is the best car after the F1 car, everything about it is so pure. Atleast once a week i boot up GT4 just to run a couple laps around the 'Ring with it.

The Peskies are awesome too, i love the green one the best, its like a diet version of the R8

 

[AOS-]

Well, CleanLX has talked about the purchasing the car that suits your driving style.

You got to think about this as well, "What you plan on using it most for".

It seems the majority says to go for a 787B. Well, here's something to consider.the 787B is Quick, High RPM range (9000 Revs), and 690 HP. Yes it looks nice and is very low to the ground with its unique Rotary Engine. HOWEVER, if you were to peek at it's torque, it stands at a low 440lb/ft, somewhere around there.

I can help you classify many of the LMs. there are essentially 2 kinds in a braod sense. Compareable to the political Spectrum, there's and extreme left and right. In this case, the extreme's would be Endurance and Speed.

Endurance; Tires dont wear as fast, Gas consumption is less, overall Acceleration isn't the quickest.

Speed (alias "Maximum performance, with some downfalls); Tires tend to wear a fast rate, same with the gas consumption,Accel is good.

I didn't include a top speed because MOST of the LMs essentially the same top speeds. There are some that dont rack up with the Big Group. Some of these include:
-Mazda 787B
-Nissan R390 GT1
-Toyota 7
-Gillet Vertigo

There ARE a bit more, and some of these some slack the top speeds as with another, i.e the R390, its top speed lays somewhere with the Big Group yet can outrun a Toyota 7, or Gillet.

The Big Group is something i jsut made up to group the LMs that hold a great top speed. Some include:
-Toyota GT-ONE
-Minolta 88C-V
-Nissan R89C & R92CP
-Audi R8
-Bentley Speed 8
-Sauber C9 (one of the weakest in this list)


There are exceptions to some other cars that lay in between the enduro and Speed, meaning aren't the fastest nor the best in endurances, It's the "Medium" in Racing Tires.

If only i knew how to work Microsoft Excel, this explanation would be a WHOLE lot easier. Anyway, I almost forgot to put up a brief list of Enduro Vs Maxed Speed. I'll start with enduro's..
-Bentley speed 8
-Audi R8
-BMW V12 LMR
-Pescarolos

Some of the Top Performances;
-Minolta 88C-V
-Nissan R92CP & R89C
-Jaguar XJ-R9

Now what's in between:
-Sauber C9 (leans more to top performance, but its endurance is slightly greater than what's listed above)
-Toyota GT-ONE? (unsure but the same case, Speed>Endurance)
-AMG CLK-GTR LM (Enduro>Speed, great top speed but when it comes to ratios, the enduro is greater.)

Um i apologize for the small # of examples, i cant think much, it's morning...-_- gimme a break..

I also want to point out some other cars i haven't included.. Why? because these are the LMs and Group C you want to avoid investing into unless stated below. Why? I'll explain as i name 'em off,(these are in my opinion, so dont get offended in any way)

-Mazda 787B: As stated in the first paragraph, Lacks the torque to hit the top speed as compared to othercars like 88C-V and R92CP, yes quick accel, that's good.

-Toyota 7: Same as 787B, quick accel, not the greatest top speed.

I'd only recommend getting these cars for tracks that have more corners, turns(esp. tight corners where all the cars need to go a bit slower than normal, and/or short in length (varies). Try not to use this car for tracks where they are more straights than turns and or areas where the car must go fast. I'f you've played in Nurbgring, the toyota 7 smoked every other LM. Im pretty sure 787B can do the same as well.

Here are the ones i DEFINITELY dont want invested into:

-Nissan R390 GT1: Not the greatest Top speed, nor Accel, NOR endurance,
-Ford GT40: same case as R390
-Pagani Zonda LM: Same case as GT40 ( but looks niceee)
-Gillet Vertigo: Garbage( IMO), its an FR, meaning greatly unbalanced tire wear. Downforce is weak, can only reach 10/20, while the others go 63/88. That's why its one of the first cars to screw up and slide out on Nurbgring. not the greatest top speed, accel is pretty decent.. 8790RPM..
-BMW McLaren F1: You won't believe it, if you play the GT-All Stars, the McLaren is the prize car, yet its in the races as well. What's unbelieveable is that it never finishes first. Slow Accel, top speed, not sure of, but from the look of the stats, it's not capable of top speeds as great as the Sauber C9. This one is like another R390.
-Panoz Esperante: I dont know much about this car, simply because i dislike its look, and because i dont see the fellar very much on the roads...but i do remember it didn't meet the standards of Peak Performance. Endurance, someone's going to have to fill me in on that one.
-Suzuki Escudo (if anyone really uses it often):This loses to Panoz's overall stuff. Massive understeer,great tire wear, Tire consumption i haven't looked into that, can't keep up with LMs (like it used to in GT2 and GT3). I think this car has been nerfed to garbage, it's not great in rally either.

There are more cars i dont recommend investing into , but as i've said i can't think of them any more. I barely play GT anymore. and I know a lot of the cars stated arent purchaseable, this'll give you a broader range of where i'm getting at.

References:
-Several Arcade races done in Nurbgring
-Like the Wind Event (done over 5 times)
-Sarthe I and II Enduro

This is my Food of Thoughts.

 

[Kurei]

If i remember correctly i bought the Toyota GT-1, and it worked quite well for me, just be careful about letting B-Spec driver Bob drive it, he almost blew the 24 hr race at Nurb for me

 

[PeterJB]

Although the Mazda 787B certainly isn't the best car in the game, it is definitely the best of the ones for sale.

 

[Stevisiov]

While I would agree about getting either the LMR or a Pescarolo, I would like to advise people about Peugeot 905, the car itself is brilliant, decent power, very low weight compared with the other 4,500,000 cars which gives it superb handling, it is fairly economical with the tyres aswell. It should be one of the best yet for some reason the shifting times have been messed up, for this reason the car is not as quick as the C9, R92CP, or Minolta 88C-V. It also makes the driver extremely frustrated waiting for the car to hit 5th gear.

Not a problem;The gear change times are similar to that of the caddilac CIEN, frustrating , there are ways of avoiding this however, think of the Chapparal, you hardly change gear in it because there are only 3 gears.

If you go into the transmission on the setup menu;

1) Massivly up the first second and third gear, enough so that you can easily, hit over 200 Mph in third gear.

2) then massively shorten 4 and 5, therefore effectively rendering these last two gears redundant, this second bit should only be done if you drive in Manual, and is not really important, I just do it to mentally remind me to avoid changing gears until I get used to it.

Basically you have now have yourself a 3 speed gear box, you will obviously have to tinker a bit to ensure, it is a suitible drive. Now while having the disadvantage of less gears, therefor less selection for cornernering, (amongst other problems). You will now find you will have to change far less gears, therefor you have more time on the power, it will be far less annoying as well, It works for me, and I do recommend it.

 

[longlivetheM5]

While I would agree about getting either the LMR or a Pescarolo, I would like to advise people about Peugeot 905, the car itself is brilliant, decent power, very low weight compared with the other 4,500,000 cars which gives it superb handling, it is fairly economical with the tyres aswell. It should be one of the best yet for some reason the shifting times have been messed up, for this reason the car is not as quick as the C9, R92CP, or Minolta 88C-V. It also makes the driver extremely frustrated waiting for the car to hit 5th gear.[/B]

Why was that? Personally, I never drove the car, but I came across that on another thread, which bodes the question;

WHY CAN'T YOU BUY THE RACING SPEC TRANSMISSION FOR THE DAMN THING?

 

[Famine]

Why was that? Personally, I never drove the car, but I came across that on another thread, which bodes the question;

WHY CAN'T YOU BUY THE RACING SPEC TRANSMISSION FOR THE DAMN THING?

It's a race car and already has one.

 

[Stevisiov]

It's a race car and already has one.

Exactly

I have no idea why its shift times a pathetic, i was just stating the best way to make the best of a bad job, once you have effectively changed it into a 3 speed gearbox, you hardly find yourself getting held back by your gear changes.

 

[AOS-]

Exactly

I have no idea why its shift times a pathetic, i was just stating the best way to make the best of a bad job, once you have effectively changed it into a 3 speed gearbox, you hardly find yourself getting held back by your gear changes.

its liek toyota 7.. A weird 3rd Gear,

 

[Sausage]

For me the R8 and BMW LMR are the two fastest LMs. On paper they have worse power to weight ratios than the Group C cars, but they end up being faster in practice. The Nurb races in Extreme events were a joy in the BMW, and the R8 wiped the floor with the R92CP and Sauber in the Infineon enduro.

My B-spec driver agrees - these cars are my "safe" cars that I know will always win. Forget sticking stage 4 turbos in your Minolta, that's not the fastest way round most tracks. That's also why the b-spec driver drives into the wall at La Sarthe - he can't handle excessive and unnecessary top speed. And because of the AI cars' stupid gearing you don't need that top speed anyway.

The BMW has to be the best LM to buy, but the Mazda is a blast too.

 

[AOS-]

and the R8 wiped the floor with the R92CP and Sauber in the Infineon enduro.

I've already stated in my massive long post, that the R92CP and Sauber aren't Enduro Cars, they eat up their resources too quickly... Gas, Tires and they aren't THAT much faster than R8 or LMR

 

[GT Allstar]

For the money, the 787B....If you can't outrun the AI with this car, quit the game.

 

[racing-badger]

thats seconded here. even Bob can out-run them and he is a shocking driver almost every decent 3.5million + car has been mentioned and i have to say that it really is down to driving style. i own every car mentioned (bar the 905) and i would say they are all pretty even.

 

[Gucio]

Buy 787B. It is great car. You can also buy R92C or bentley S8 but in all races AI which is driving 787B is the fastest and the best, so?