Who else is giving up on GT Sport?
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If it took PD four years to release 160 cars with about a quarter of them being fantasy models and a lot of others being duplicates in some respect (a road version, a Gr.4 version and a Gr.3 version, even a rally GrB version), I wouldn't hold my breath for them releasing another 340 cars over this game's life cycle, even as paid DLC.
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My post:
"I actually did ask where was that officially comfirmed (if those are gonna be free or some of them) but I cannot remember getting an answer.Can you point me to where I can find that info?-btw I too believe there is going to be a lot of free DLC-"
Where that article confirm this (or not)?
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If the new cars are paid DLC, the sheer number raises a question of price: the genre average is roughly $1 per car. Polyphony has a mixed track record here: GT5 had numerous paid DLC updates, while GT6 included all updates free of charge.
Naturally, we’re eager to hear more on the subject. "
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@JulesDennis It's simple, if there is no DLC announcement for the first month of GTSport, I will buy Forza 7. And TBH, from a controller player point of view, I prefer GT6 physics over GTSport. I loved drifting in GT6 but in GTSport I find it at best "meh".
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@BarbarianGoth i had forza 7 on pc and i got a refund because it was basically unplayable. it was a lottery game whether the game would actually load itself or start the track or...or...plus i was very disappointed with the lighting system compared to gt sport and overall i felt that the PC version did not look as good as for example forza 6 apex did in comparison with forza 6 on the one.
i may purchase fm7 again when they cleaned up the pc version as i really like the tracks and cars selection of course.
i may purchase fm7 again when they cleaned up the pc version as i really like the tracks and cars selection of course.
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They made the graphics to the lowest common denominator, ie the Xbox One X. I doubt 4k on PC will look any better than on Xbox One X.
At 1080p maxed out, it is superior to the base Xbox One, but not night and day. The major difference is in anti aliasing.
It might be well for people to hold off on the PC version till all the bugs are ironed out and there is a significant price drop. But it's not a bad game by any means, despite it being rushed out, questionable locking random cars from not being able to be purchased from the dealership, or the loot crates that might (will) turn into paid micro transactions.
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Why should I buy Forza 7?
I have AC/Pcars already.
I did get GTS because I think its a really fun game -after testing the beta- and their idea of the "online e-sports" iracing style is what I was looking for in a console title.Its not as "hardcore" as other titles but I like the "online focus".
Forza 7 will add nothing to my (console) collection -from my point of view-.
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The shear amount of cars and tracks is this game's main selling point. Yes the physics are not as good as AC and PCars2 (As for GT Sport? meh, hard to say). But they are still OK.
I'm not saying go out and buy it for full price. When it receives a considerable price drop that you can live with, it is worth checking out. Be it 50% off full price, 66% off, 75% off, etc.
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@BarbarianGoth the problem is that if you want to play it on pc, then you can wait until you get old and saggy for a price drop.
fh3 standard edition in ms store still is 59,99€.
only thing you can hope for is some christmas action. i bought fh3 december 2016 for 45,99 when that was the case.
but given what you said, and i can confirm that, that the PC version does not look in any way better than the X version in 4k except AA, its probably better to get this as a physical copy second hand for the X if it happens that you have one.
fh3 standard edition in ms store still is 59,99€.
only thing you can hope for is some christmas action. i bought fh3 december 2016 for 45,99 when that was the case.
but given what you said, and i can confirm that, that the PC version does not look in any way better than the X version in 4k except AA, its probably better to get this as a physical copy second hand for the X if it happens that you have one.
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I informally gave up on GTS in early 2016 when it was announced that they were going into a more online-focused direction. The removal of traditional career mode, cars and tracks that I want to drive, and forced Online connection ruined what little excitement I had for it.
I've gone PC mostly so when it comes to physics and sound I hold other games to the standards I can find on PC. Assetto Corsa blows doors off GT physcis. And PCars 2 is a holiday shopping season of features.
What does GTS have that I can't get in other games? They certainly don't have a shtick anymore without the large track and car list. I am still in hope that the next GT game returns to the series tradition, but that seems unlikely.
I've gone PC mostly so when it comes to physics and sound I hold other games to the standards I can find on PC. Assetto Corsa blows doors off GT physcis. And PCars 2 is a holiday shopping season of features.
What does GTS have that I can't get in other games? They certainly don't have a shtick anymore without the large track and car list. I am still in hope that the next GT game returns to the series tradition, but that seems unlikely.
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I'm not sure if you're trying to purposefully make a joke, but that did make me laugh in reality.
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i'm not sure if my answer will satisfy you but for me(!) GTS delivers in the following departments better over other racing titles:
- replays
- lighting
- car model movement on track
- ambience sounds
- menus
- presentation (i.e. music, over all mood)
- fantasy track driving fun
- except iracing it delivers a very solid online experience with pretty good racing
i am a sucker for how a game is presented to me and how it feels to be in the game besides the pure driving phyiscs. i know i know, physics are important and all, but to me the overall feeling i get from a game is more important than one particular aspect.
thats why i put also a high emphasis on the things i mentioned above.
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In terms of DLC specifically, I would in no way charachterize either game as having "lots". Forza would be my idea of lots. IMO "below average" for a AAA game with a massive budget would be the right phrase. In terms of support I'd say average as well. I don't think they did anything you wouldn't expect from a franchise of this stature. Many huge bugs in the physics remained through GT5 and some more were introduced in GT6 after fixing some of those originating from GT5.
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Relpays are really good but not part of actual racing
Part of graphics (like replays).Put graphics in there and dont use one part of it in order to make them seem like something different (replays,lighting,visuals when racing and stuff like that).
What do you mean with that?Physics or just....graphics?
All these are actually part of presentation/navigation.
I actually dont like fantasy tracks so that is a minus in my book.
It does copy (or try to) the iracing system.The overall online experience it also depends on the other people that you play with and also if that system is working well overall.IMO its the best part of the game,but they are problems there too.
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i added this to my post above "i am a sucker for how a game is presented to me and how it feels to be in the game besides the pure driving phyiscs. i know i know, physics are important and all, but to me the overall feeling i get from a game is more important than one particular aspect.
thats why i put also a high emphasis on the things i mentioned above."
and yes, by movement i mean the way the cars look while they drive in front of me. i can see them "work". in forza for example, they look all too stiff, dont even mention the horrid replays in forza games.
yeah, i like to admire my own work in replays. its part of driving fun overall
i added this to my post above "i am a sucker for how a game is presented to me and how it feels to be in the game besides the pure driving phyiscs. i know i know, physics are important and all, but to me the overall feeling i get from a game is more important than one particular aspect.
thats why i put also a high emphasis on the things i mentioned above."
and yes, by movement i mean the way the cars look while they drive in front of me. i can see them "work". in forza for example, they look all too stiff, dont even mention the horrid replays in forza games.
yeah, i like to admire my own work in replays. its part of driving fun overall
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@JulesDennis
i added this to my post above "i am a sucker for how a game is presented to me and how it feels to be in the game besides the pure driving phyiscs. i know i know, physics are important and all, but to me the overall feeling i get from a game is more important than one particular aspect.
thats why i put also a high emphasis on the things i mentioned above."
and yes, by movement i mean the way the cars look while they drive in front of me. i can see them "work". in forza for example, they look all too stiff, dont even mention the horrid replays in forza games.
yeah, i like to admire my own work in replays. its part of driving fun overall
So what GTS does better (compared to other racing titles) is:
-Graphics (something a lot of people -me included- were/are saying,thou its not enough to justify the "superiority" of any title against its competetors)
-The way it "copies" an online system from another title.
Pretty much that.
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I'm pretty much there, I have to admit I'm terribly bored with GTS. The low number of every day cars and inexplicable low track count is really affecting my time with the game. Lately the online races are acting weird, the cars are jumping around the track rendering the online races just too glitchy/broken for me to play. So I'm left with time trials and the underwhelming arcade mode.
It's so frustrating because the game is solid, but with the focus on online and nothing else I think I'm just going to give up on it. My limit was reached last night when I got home after a long day of work to play some GTS and I was greeted with the warning that the servers were going offline in 5 minutes.. I just kinda sat there for a moment with the game I can't save or do anything with and decided I'm probably going to shelve the game for a while. This sucks because I've been a fan for soooo long but I can't stomach this forced online stuff anymore.
It's so frustrating because the game is solid, but with the focus on online and nothing else I think I'm just going to give up on it. My limit was reached last night when I got home after a long day of work to play some GTS and I was greeted with the warning that the servers were going offline in 5 minutes.. I just kinda sat there for a moment with the game I can't save or do anything with and decided I'm probably going to shelve the game for a while. This sucks because I've been a fan for soooo long but I can't stomach this forced online stuff anymore.
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I have. I was sick of all the bs, even in higher SR ranks. I got up to A once, but got rammed twice and m SR dropped straight to D. Screw that. I just started ramming people back for the last 100 races. Now I have my platinum, so I won't bother playing until they add something worthwhile.
The livery editor is the only thing that brings me back to be honest.
Sport
The weekly events are dull races punctuated with people crashing into me, making sure it takes as long as possible to get to S SR rank and increase my DR rank.
The new FIA races are a mess, qualifying is a gamble due to people smashing and spinning out all over the place ruining laps and not having enough time and the races are worse with the dirtiest driving I've ever seen in GT Sport.
Career
I have literally no interest in this after loosing progress twice, the rally stages are a joke and the rest of it is tedious in the extreme.
I don't understand really how PD can make the FIA stuff fun, other than maybe ghost everyone during quali, or give us 20 mins instead of 10 to set laps, and do it in stages... I don't think there is any hope for good racing, given the people I encounter at B and C DR. They only seem to want to cheat there way to the finish, pushing, swiping and tagging you and other drivers.
Maybe I've just got to grind through the utterly dull weekly races, to get with people who want to race.. but I doubt its much different.
GT Sport has imo failed to bridge the gap between public lobby racing and league racing.
Sport
The weekly events are dull races punctuated with people crashing into me, making sure it takes as long as possible to get to S SR rank and increase my DR rank.
The new FIA races are a mess, qualifying is a gamble due to people smashing and spinning out all over the place ruining laps and not having enough time and the races are worse with the dirtiest driving I've ever seen in GT Sport.
Career
I have literally no interest in this after loosing progress twice, the rally stages are a joke and the rest of it is tedious in the extreme.
I don't understand really how PD can make the FIA stuff fun, other than maybe ghost everyone during quali, or give us 20 mins instead of 10 to set laps, and do it in stages... I don't think there is any hope for good racing, given the people I encounter at B and C DR. They only seem to want to cheat there way to the finish, pushing, swiping and tagging you and other drivers.
Maybe I've just got to grind through the utterly dull weekly races, to get with people who want to race.. but I doubt its much different.
GT Sport has imo failed to bridge the gap between public lobby racing and league racing.
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i claim superiority in the aspects i mentioned for myself. i did not claim it to be universally true.
i just responded to the question posted, what one thinks that GTS does better than others. and normally this is subjective. so i dont see why you are so eager to kind of show me that what i said is sort of a "just that, but not more". i never claimed "more".
i dont argue that GTS phyiscs are inferior to AC or PCars2. so if its this what you wanted to hear, yeah, sure.
i dont identify with a game as i have the others as well (except fm7 which i gave back), so i dont have any problems whatsoever admitting if a game i overall like more than others has also weak aspects. sure it has.
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i am refering to weight transfer optics.
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