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Actually, I'll add Hiram Maxim and Albert Einstein to my list of the worst people who ever lived.
You've lost perspective.
Actually, I'll add Hiram Maxim and Albert Einstein to my list of the worst people who ever lived.
Maxim I get, but Einstein Please explain.Actually, I'll add Hiram Maxim and Albert Einstein to my list of the worst people who ever lived.
The people responsible for the most net suffering.Maxim I get, but Einstein Please explain.
Took me a minute but I figured it out:tup:👍The people responsible for the most net suffering.
Last time I checked they were both dead, or has the zombie apocalypse started already? Looks to me like "alive" is still part of the thread title...Actually, I'll add Hiram Maxim and Albert Einstein to my list of the worst people who ever lived.
The people responsible for the most net suffering.
Took me a minute but I figured it out:tup:👍
I didn't say I agreed, I just acknowledged that it took me a minute to figure out his thought process.You have a weird definition of "responsible".
I acknowledge I'm off-topic.Last time I checked they were both dead, or has the zombie apocalypse started already? Looks to me like "alive" is still part of the thread title...
Which does bring up a question; would a zombie qualify? Does "undead" equate to "alive"?
Utter poppycock.True but to be considered the worst person alive, you have to be a known face. Your case, your actions or your doings need to have been reported. The unreported evil in the world, whilst utterly horrible, is perpetrated by unknown figures who may later transpire to be the worst people ever.
The people responsible for the most net suffering.
I posted this 7 years ago? The more you know.Anjem Choudary and Kim Jong-un gain honorable mentions, but my pick is Robert Mugabe. Flushing a once great country straight down the toilet into extreme poverty and being a racist while doing it - that's hard to top. Bonus points for the fact that being 92 years old in a country with an incredibly low life expectancy, you can easily tell he's been sacrificing his citizens' well-being to prolong his own miserable existence instead.
Good call. Out of legitimate* political leaders, he takes some beating.Kadyrov
Things have only got worse for NK since Covid hit. Their borders are closed, even to China, so starvation for it's 26m citizens has just gotten even worse as they don't produce enough food to feed themselves, yet they can't import it for them either. Medical supplies too.Seven years on from when this was first posted, I wonder who tops the list now? Kim Jong-Un has kept quiet recently but is still alive.
Take it as read that this thread is not about hypothetical conspiracies. I'm sure Hitler lived well into the 1970s...If a few nut-jobs are somehow right, then Jeffery Epstein and/or Osama bin Laden.
In that case, my pick is probably Putin, if only for significantly disrupting the world order just for irredentism.Take it as read that this thread is not about hypothetical conspiracies. I'm sure Hitler lived well into the 1970s...
That said, I don't see any reason why the United States would want or keep bin Laden alive. If you fall for the "he knows dirt on people" then that's exactly all the more reason to kill him to make sure he can never spill on his dealings with the Reagan administration and the Mujahideen. His own people don't dispute the fact that he's dead.
Stick to people known to be alive.
This is exactly why he may still top the list. There are 26,000,000 people in North Korea who are thoroughly unequipped to live and prosper anywhere else in the world and they've been purposely kept brainwashed and undereducated for three generations of leadership, still active today. There are poorer people, there are less educated people, there are places with fewer resources and more disease, but I think 26,000,000 people kept mentally ill on purpose is pretty ****ed. Africa has its warlords but I think most of the problems across that continent aren't necessarily perpetuated by such an organized government as NK, and the conditions of Africa post-colonialism aren't really condusive to prosperity anyway. Like, poverty should be expected in a desert land with no infrastructure where lions and malaria thrive. North Korea is right across the street from perfectly decent apartments in South Korea and China and yet its a forbidden land with no access to the outside world, where all the people believe in some alternate reality and don't know any better. It could be one of the most productive societies in the world. It has everything it needs except reality.Kim Jong-Un has kept quiet recently
Numbers-wise, that still pales in comparison to something like @Eunos_Cosmo 's example above.The worst person alive probably isn’t going to be anyone you’ve heard of. It’s probably some cartel guy who’d take pleasure in skinning you and your family alive for slighting them. Someone like that.
To be fair to this man, the conflict after his passing.. there was nothing he could do about itI'm gonna have to give this one to Ayatollah Khamenei. Not only has he (and his predecessor) effectively ruined a once prosperous nation and subjugated 80+ million people to medieval life, but he (and the Government of Iran) has so thoroughly de-stabilized that entire region of the world that it has only known conflict since the early 1980s.
Putin ain't far behind, but you could at least plausibly say that his own people support him. Khamenei merely dominates the population of Iran and manipulates all of the middle east via the IRGC. Assad and Kim Jung Un are terrible but their detriment to humanity is largely limited to their own borders.
Ding!Kissinger is proof of the adage only the good die young and the 🤬s last forever.