Who uses DFP's for drifting?

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I just got mine today and i have to say,it was harder than i expected.Because of the forcefeedback,it is hard to get a good angle and drift going.Anyone else experience this on their first tome using a DFP?

And yah iknow i screwed the title up.so shh.lol.
 
lol yah there.
its really hard controlling it cuz of the forcefeedback.its crazyy hard.but sooner or later im gonna get the hang of it.
 
It's not the dfp that's causing you to F' up like that. It's the game. The games physics glitches are MUCH more noticable when using the DFP.

I am a pro at drifting in Enthusia and GT3 and NFS and any other car game basically. But it took me 2 months to get the hang of GT4 becuase it feels NOTHING like real life. Sucks, they should have kept the GT3 physics engine for non racing tires.
 
I don't have a DFP yet.

I'm waiting for mines from Wal-Mart for 100$ USD + tax.

I use DS2 at the moment, can't wait till I get my hands on it.

From what I heard from you guys on here having trouble steering cause of the force feedback, I can't wait to use it!
 
rsmithdrift
I am a pro at drifting in Enthusia and GT3 and NFS and any other car game basically. But it took me 2 months to get the hang of GT4 becuase it feels NOTHING like real life. Sucks, they should have kept the GT3 physics engine for non racing tires.
I disagree for the most part, but I must agree using the DFP lowers the reality factor of GT4; however I think it is pretty much all of the forcefeed backs fault. The forcefeed back offered by the DFP is a replacement for the feeling of the car. For me it took me about a couple days to figure out drifting in gt4, because honestly it can be compared to real life, not perfect obviously. I find it that I can feel most of the cars weight shifting from the wheel, which you'd normally feel from being pulled in your seat. So in essence that's pretty much what you have to do, use the feeling you get from the wheel to figure out what's going on with the car, along with what's on the screen and it all pulls together.
 
If the force feedback is too high you can set it to 60% of its strength because standard is set to 100%.
And when drifting you really just kind of have to rely on the force feedback and get a feel for it.
 
I use dfp. i used to have the same problem too. All it is, is just practice, you will just get the hang of it. put it on pro and feedback to strong, thats how i drift, i do that so you can feel the turn affecting your car more. Plus the best way to learn dfp is to either watch FBI's Mike le Chat's driving for pro videos which he has videos of him and his dfp. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Team+FBI+Productions Mike you own lol, or you can go download xlink kai http://www.teamxlink.co.uk/ and drift with other players ONLINE! to see their technic. you will learn 3x faster online.or even 5 bagillion times faster. well good luck learning :)
 
(BRO)The_Brothe
I use dfp. i used to have the same problem too. All it is, is just practice, you will just get the hang of it. put it on pro and feedback to strong, thats how i drift, i do that so you can feel the turn affecting your car more. Plus the best way to learn dfp is to either watch FBI's Mike le Chat's driving for pro videos which he has videos of him and his dfp. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Team+FBI+Productions Mike you own lol, or you can go download xlink kai http://www.teamxlink.co.uk/ and drift with other players ONLINE! to see their technic. you will learn 3x faster online.or even 5 bagillion times faster. well good luck learning :)

I agree with bro Kai ftw...Seeing others drift in front of you can teach you more about movement and shifting of the car. My wheel is set on Simulation and force feedback on 100%. Feel the car through the wheel...and practice. good luck!
 
dking
I agree with bro Kai ftw...Seeing others drift in front of you can teach you more about movement and shifting of the car. My wheel is set on Simulation and force feedback on 100%. Feel the car through the wheel...and practice. good luck!

Indeed.. But i didn't have anyone show me on the DFP lol.. I was in my friends AE86.. hes been in 7 or 8 of the D-Days.. Helped me alot.. and I love Simulation.. some say its harder but once you get it youc and drift alot of cars..👍
 
ToyotaDrifter
Indeed.. But i didn't have anyone show me on the DFP lol.. I was in my friends AE86.. hes been in 7 or 8 of the D-Days.. Helped me alot.. and I love Simulation.. some say its harder but once you get it youc and drift alot of cars..👍

Yea i mean that xlink kai was an alternative. and i use pro instead of sim cause someone told me to change it to pro so i did and i never changed since then.
 
3mondx1
Is the DF easier or harder to drift with than the DFP?
it matters. if you don't want to break a sweat just use a df, but if you want to use 200 or use 900 degree mode use dfp. 900 degree mode is harder at first for most people but is used to be more precise in drifts. but 200 degrees is good for crazy steering with out turning the wheel 2 1/2 times from lock to lock. I prefer 900 degree mode because its precise plus i use 900 to give me a chance to beat something up when im pissed or stressed lol , there are people that use df and 200 degree mode on dfp and can be just as precise. its mainly what you prefer. Plus its mostly what you practice with more work or little work?? So one isn't as hard as the other

p.s. lol i don't really sweat from using 900 unless is 3 bagillion degrees inside
 
Implausibility
I disagree for the most part, but I must agree using the DFP lowers the reality factor of GT4; however I think it is pretty much all of the forcefeed backs fault. The forcefeed back offered by the DFP is a replacement for the feeling of the car. For me it took me about a couple days to figure out drifting in gt4, because honestly it can be compared to real life, not perfect obviously. I find it that I can feel most of the cars weight shifting from the wheel, which you'd normally feel from being pulled in your seat. So in essence that's pretty much what you have to do, use the feeling you get from the wheel to figure out what's going on with the car, along with what's on the screen and it all pulls together.

Well, I know the physics are way off on this game and the flaws show brightly when drifting......and moreso with the DFP.

Too put steering feel in real life simply.....

If the wheel is pushing/pulling to the right, then the car is either gaining angle/tightening turn radious in a left hand turn, loosing angle/opening turn radious in a right hand turn, or taking left hand turn with grip.

If the wheel is neutral, not pushing/pulling at all (in other words you could let go of the wheel and it wouldn't move) then the car is either going in a straight line or not gaining or loosing angle in a turn......this is the "sweet spot" when the car is perfectly balanced. All things like momentum, line, speed, angle, wheelspin all have to be perfect and steady to properly achieve this.

If the wheel is pushing/pulling to the left, then the car is either gaining angle/tightening turn radious in a right hand turn, loosing angle/opening turn radious in a left hand turn, or gripping around a right hand turn.

Sadly this is not true in GT4. Because of GT4's understeer and poor forward bite/traction circle/traction fall off rate, if the wheel is neutral you will have the same affect as pulling to the left in a left hander. If the wheel IS pulling left in a left hander in GT4 it is instant overcorrection in most all circumstances. You have to have the wheel pulling in various amounts of preassure to the opposite direction of the turn to keep balanced or gain angle. It feels like you are 4 wheel drifting all the time (understeer at mid drift). It's very odd.
 
Nightmadness
Guys i wan to ask, the FBI drift video is it the front view in the game really show that DFP steering wheel on screen?
Yea it can be toggled on and off in settings or in game, when wheel is plugged in, just press start then select then there it is :)
 
Guys i just bought DFP today^^ but i try drifting is hard like hell LOLX the force is too strong and i can't countersteer back fast. But is very very fun^^ cos is hard to control HAHA
 
its been 1 day i bought my DFP, and the result shown better now when i drift but!!! the problem is countersteer i can't get it rite and i always mess up when wanted to complete the apex sad>.<, i been watching the FBI production drift video of 900degree to have some review on using DFP
 
before i started drifting with the dfp i did rally for an entire week straight. This help me learn the whole 900 degree aspect. My reaction time also increased as well with the dfp practicing rally on tight turns and corners. Then i set one of my FR cars to drift the way i can respond to rally and wham, drifto.
 
Well i can drift now but the problem is drift angle not good enff, long distance drift not good at it yet and weight trans!!! must practice alot, Practice make perfect So Drift On^^
 
heres one thing i did. Notice how there are white lines against every corner. Guide your car on those white lines and counter steer according to the line.
 
AndrewOval
heres one thing i did. Notice how there are white lines against every corner. Guide your car on those white lines and counter steer according to the line.

You basically just said to look where your going, pick a line and try to follow it.......Every racer should do that. If you don't you can't put in good lap times or hold a good solid drift line..........But yeah, if you didn't know that it's pretty damn important. lol.
 
Guys do u ppl realise that using DFP is already on Simulation Mode, u dun need to set to sim cos that setting is for DF only!!! i got DF thats y i know the different.
 
Nightmadness
Guys do u ppl realise that using DFP is already on Simulation Mode, u dun need to set to sim cos that setting is for DF only!!! i got DF thats y i know the different.

Well duh.

I'm slowly giving up on DFP drifting. It's hella weird. I can drift most corners but, hella weird. It feels like the car is gripping even when it's drifting.
 
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