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There have been some occasions where I have tested a car post-race and only under a 1-lap condition. As long as I saw 67% near the pit entrance, I would post it as ‘x-value-capable’. I’ve tried to be more stringent the last couple of days, but I’ve also found myself exiting the hairpin after 1.5 at 48% and ‘failing’ the test when in actual practice, the car passes in the end. In other words, I err more to the side of caution.
If you find specific examples, please let me know. I’ll go back and test. Personally, I use an AT and that’s a key point to this exercise. Part of my intention here is that a relative amateur could dial in the settings and have a realistic benchmark to record a win.
EDIT: With the Lancia I don’t recall any issues, but I can run that one back and see what I come up with.
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The tune is actually from Praiano’s Subaru BRZ S ‘21. 3 laps at FM6 requires a touch of lift and coast with an AT. This best lap and overall should have been at least 3 seconds quicker, but I wasn’t paying attention to my fuel.
Wide body/wide wheels/wide offset/front A/side A/rear B/wing B/roll cage A
Wide body/wide wheels/wide offset/front A/side A/rear B/wing B/roll cage A
Capable of a 1-stop with ideal weather conditions. FM6 for 4 laps on RM’s and FM4 for 3 laps on RS’s. She’s so light that the tire wear is really good and only chews up the fronts. Note the left values column are with RS’s, you can feel how much grippier it is when you swap the tires and can REALLY push the car then. In a post-race economy test, I turned a 4:07.020 opening lap with the RS’s at FM1!
18” wheels/wide wheels/wide offset/front A/side A/rear B/wing A/roll cage A
18” wheels/wide wheels/wide offset/front A/side A/rear B/wing A/roll cage A
Capable of a 1-stop with lift and coast at FM6, requires a touch of L&C at FM4 to get 3 laps.
Wide body/21” wheels/wide wheels/wide offset/front A/side B/rear A/wing A/roll cage A
Wide body/21” wheels/wide wheels/wide offset/front A/side B/rear A/wing A/roll cage A
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The gearbox needs work, please let me know if you sort it out.
Wide body/wide wheels/wide offset/front A/wing B
Wide body/wide wheels/wide offset/front A/wing B
The trick to this car, with an AT, is to only use half-throttle through 2nd and 3rd. Once it hits 4th, you’re pretty much OK. When it gets wet, half-throttle til you spin the wheels, lay off and then reapply your throttle. Its a tricky drive, but manageable once you figure it out.
Wide body/wide wheels/wide offset/front A/wing B
Wide body/wide wheels/wide offset/front A/wing B
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Looks like our next move Magnus...
I'm hesitant in the middle of this process as I want to be able to test as an AT user would experience the car and it would skew my results if I tested some with AT and some with MT.
As I often say, I am a beginner. And connected to this subject, I do not know how large percentage of the average players that run AT respective MT. Is there a view here from people with experience?
I think as a base for your project, it will have value to continue it with AT.
Then maybe later for some of the borderline cases see if MT add significant value.
(On a personal note, I will try to learn MT, next time I have a day to play. Currently I play an hour every second day sort of)
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You could switch to MT for cars you can't get 3 laps out of at FM6? (if you do want to start practicing MT.
There are cars that it's almost impossible to do Le Mans on without short shifting and MT. If you want to have those cars in your garage it might help you get them dialed in a bit easier? As long as you have cheap cars that can do it easily in AT you've given beginners a really good way in.
Took me about 500km to really start getting it. It's like changing your computer mouse or anything else, it takes a little time but it's worth persevering. If you're using a controller I think the fastest settings are MT, all assists off apart from ABS on default. I keep TCS on one because I'm a little baby though.
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That’s not a bad idea. I’m willing to do 2 laps and in (as it usually means the car is very fast), but I doubt many people feel the same way, so the testing is somewhat of a moot point in those circumstances. Maybe I’ll dabble a bit on this cycle and see how it feels.
I don’t ABS, the FFB is REALLY good in that regard has been my experience (although if I were to play on the PS4, I’m sure I’d have it on). TCS off was a very quick learning curve for me, its a pretty easy transition really.
Tested MT first time yesterday. Tested a car that with AT does not get 3 laps on LeMans. With MT it did.
Will take some time to learn to do faster lap times. Maybe a lot of practice time.
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Hello, if I may ask, what times did you get with this car/tune?
Because it’s one of my favorites sleeper cars, not as fast as others but can do this race on 1 pit stop only, and that’s with heavy rain. You need full aero for downforce and stiffen the suspension a bit more. Also it sounds amazing.
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4:18 best lap and just under 33 overall. I'm willing to play with it some more as I feel there is some untapped potential there. I'll give your advice a try next chance I get.
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What I do is run FM6 the whole race and shift at 7000 rpm’s, again not as fast as others but steady and easy to drive. My tune is just 1PP below yours but I have less power, more downforce, stiffer suspension and a bit taller gearing.
Like you I’m not also an expert tuner but I too love to do this race with as different cars as I can.
Hope you have a great race with it.
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last night i won le mans 700 with roadster rampage detuned with fm4-5 for 2 lap pit
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I played around with it quite a bit and no luck. I’m OK with gearing, but near useless when it comes to suspension. I reached out to myckol on Reddit, but he’s on vacation for a bit longer. If you would share your setup, I’ll happily give it a try.
No problems with the rain per se, but it slows you down considerably. I would love to see the overall time on a totally dry day.
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My first experience was a bit iffy, but I had made some pretty drastic alterations to the tune. When I set it back up closer to Pra’s spec (and put the wing on maybe), it went much better. IIRC, she will eat tires, hence the use of RH’s at the expense of PP. Getting caught on slicks in the rain made me want to pull my hair out though, if it looks like its going to get wet, just pit for tires. Otherwise, its a fantastic car/tune.
I believe it was this car that taught me a very important lesson about altering tunes in general. A little bit to suit personal taste is fine, but too much can turn a perfectly good tune into a nightmare. I have since tried to keep all tunes much closer to spec and stopped trying to chase theoretical numbers on the tuning sheets.
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