Why 99.9% of all players won´t gold the Nordschleife Circuit Experience!

[bluealpine]

World's record is 6'21, impressive time and close perfect lap i think.
The alien is Rikuto Kobayashi 👏

 

[Lomic]

World's record is 6'21, impressive time and close perfect lap i think.
The alien is Rikuto Kobayashi 👏

Who you can regularly be confronted to as one of the AI cars in the game.

 

[bluealpine]

Who you can regularly be confronted to as one of the AI cars in the game.

Right, he was added in the 1.42 update.

Kenavo,

 

[Lomic]

Right, he was added in the 1.42 update.

Oh I did not know that he was added with 1.42, I only noticed him because of his name, reminding me the lawyer of Keyser Söze in the movie Usual Suspects 😁

 

[UltimateLurker]

I suspect they could. But not so the lesser gods.

More than difficult to keep that pace for 6+ minutes. You'd really have to be an alien.

 

[wheelhp]

Yeah It's really unlikely any person can get a full lap of the ring to be as fast as all their best sector times, combined..

 

[jbrennen]

That makes sense, but the point remains; it's vastly easier to get a gold lap than to gold the sectors because you generally have to be a lot less perfect. Even the aliens couldn't gold an entire Nur lap with the exact same sector times as they achieved individually.

I think you'd probably find that to be true of most of the circuit experience gold standards. They're based on trials which were done by expert sim drivers. It's far easier for the expert driver to put together a picture perfect (and fast) single sector than it is for the expert driver to put together a picture perfect full lap. Which explains what you said there in your last sentence about the aliens.

 

[shadow0460]

Running the Nordschleife really does test my faith in the car. There are so many areas that seem completely blind where you should be at wide open throttle.
I hold bronze on this CE but several golds (if not all of them) on the GP course. I was working with that the other day.

 

[Chris30]

World's record is 6'21, impressive time and close perfect lap i think.
The alien is Rikuto Kobayashi 👏

Dang, I barely got under 7 minutes, there's no way I'd pull that off, did he save a replay. I haven't looked yet.

 

[Mafio]

Eh, I got all golds and a silver on the full lap buy like a half second, and that was the first try. Running Nürburgring, balls out, can be kinda draining at times. Usually, I like to do shorter events to warm up first and stuff. I just dont feel like golding it tbh. One Saturday, when Im off and bored I'll knock it out. Im sure I can get it in a couple of tries.

 

[equalitus]

Ok the thread title is a bit controversial but I´ll explain why I say this.

I am an experienced Gran Turismo driver with about 20 years in the series. I was successful in many competitions during this time and made it twice to the GT Academy Final in Silverstone. I´m able to do Top 100 lap times in GT Sport and I did thousands of laps around the Nordschleife.
This is my most favourite track and I would consider my times very good there. I´m always within a range of 4-8 seconds to the world records depending on car and class.
So I went for the Nordschleife Circuit Experience and expected a one try gold. This wasn't the case and it took me several attempts to beat the gold time of 6:37.800 only by a tenth. The same challenge in GT Sport has a gold time of 6.57.900 so over 20 seconds more, while the car physics in GT7 seem to be about 5 seconds slower per lap.
So I did more laps and tried the best I could do and got a 6:34.090. Of course this lap wasn't perfect and there will be aliens doing sub 6:30 but I guess no average player will ever get close to the gold time.
From the result of past events and daily races on the Nordschleife I guess there are only a few thousand players around the world who could beat this gold time. If we assume GT7 will sell several million copies this are less than 0,1% of all players.

How many percents difference between a DS and a steering wheel?

 

[Blacki2k2]

Oh, nice, a Nordschleife thread. I started driving there a few weeks ago. My target was to get under 6:30, missed by only 0.2 secs. Maybe i will try it again these days.
Driving a lot in online lobbies with BoP/GR.3. My record is 6:25.045 :-)

 

[Blacki2k2]

Nice, got it. Needs a few tries, but this track makes a lot of fun :-)

 

[DaikiKasho]

Now there’s been another physics update, how has the ring CE been affected?

 

[abaeta]

Was working on getting money enough to buy all cars of the game. Done! Now I must find a new objective, probably I'll try this and those 2 drift missions I still haven't Gold (BRZ and Viper). I tried twice nordschleife and I'm at 6:43+. Need to be more agressive...

 

[Chris30]

I hope they made the lap attack a little bit easier by adding some seconds to the gold time. It's worth the 5M running a full fledge lap there.

 

[Chris30]

World's record is 6'21, impressive time and close perfect lap i think.
The alien is Rikuto Kobayashi 👏

His lines are super insane, and he even drove the left tires on the grass and didn't get disqualified. Most of the time I do, when my tires touch the grass/railings. The hardest Sectors are 8 and 10. I lose my rhythm and get nervous and crash 60% of the time and then I end up having to start the session over.

 

[chengman]

Golded this. Wasn't that hard even with how bad the new physics is. Super easy to understeer off at the carousel but learned to take it slow

 

[Chris30]

I've golded all Sectors except the 8th one, and I still have a bronze time in the lap attack stage. So practice and paying attention to the demo ghost is the main key for earning a gold time.

 

[RPR6143 RPG]

I can't even gold all the Circuit Experiences, I was only able to do gold on one of them.

 

[Johnny Caisse]

Only circuit experiences I have Golded were Broad Bean Raceway and Northern Isle Speedway. Any that I tried I have Bronze and Silvers only, except for Lake Louise were I have 4 Silvers and 1 Gold.

I use a controller.

 

[Rossell2]

Only circuit experiences I have Golded were Broad Bean Raceway and Northern Isle Speedway. Any that I tried I have Bronze and Silvers only, except for Lake Louise were I have 4 Silvers and 1 Gold.

I use a controller.

Try Monza.

 

[RACECAR]

Tuning a Porsche 911 997 with sport softs, LSD and adjustable suspension, I did 14 laps of which only two were clean. I managed a 7:41:something, the second clean lap, and was shaky when I quit. I dread even looking at the Experience.

Kaz, your GT7 physics... I want a patch. Soon.

.....sooooo, what do we think?

 

[Chris30]

.....sooooo, what do we think?

I don't think Kaz or PD will approve it right now, not for one person.

 

[RACECAR]

I don't think Kaz or PD will approve it right now, not for one person.

I was jokingly asking the guy I was quoting since he made that post, very likely fully unaware that such a massive physics update would happen down the line.

 

[Mafio]

Only circuit experiences I have Golded were Broad Bean Raceway and Northern Isle Speedway. Any that I tried I have Bronze and Silvers only, except for Lake Louise were I have 4 Silvers and 1 Gold.

I use a controller.

How about Tsukuba Circuit? Thats should be a confidence boost even with a controller. Tbh, a controller isn't an excuse. One can be just have fast with a controller. A wheel won't make you any faster if you don't have your fundamentals down. Practice, practice, practice.

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[TumeK5]

How about Tsukuba Circuit? Thats should be a confidence boost even with a controller. Tbh, a controller isn't an excuse. One can be just have fast with a controller.

He never justified himself with an excuse, he merely stated his choice of peripheral.

A wheel won't make you any faster if you don't have your fundamentals down. Practice, practice, practice.

And while this is true, I've tried being fast with the controller, and I can't do it. Wheel makes your life a whole lot easier, but if you've never used a wheel and always stuck to a controller, you will find that easier instead.

But the real question is what level of precision we're talking about. Anyone can be decently fast with a controller, but the people who become just as fast as pro wheel users are especially gifted.

It's kind of like ambidexterity: only the minority in the world are naturally able to use both hands of equal precision. I'm sure there are people, although very, very few, who are just as fast on wheel as on controller.

But typically, it tends to be either hand, not both.

 

[Johnny Caisse]

How about Tsukuba Circuit? Thats should be a confidence boost even with a controller. Tbh, a controller isn't an excuse. One can be just have fast with a controller. A wheel won't make you any faster if you don't have your fundamentals down. Practice, practice, practice.

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The thing is, with controllers there is a delay when you press the accelerator until it reaches 100% throttle. I could be wrong but I think I've seen players go instant full throttle with pedals.

Edit: Almost forgot to say, I'm a bit Ambisinistrous. (Opposite of Ambidexterity.)

 

[TumeK5]

Edit: Almost forgot to say, I'm a bit Ambisinistrous. (Opposite of Ambidexterity.)

That helps the context a lot. I hope you're getting on well!

 

[Chris30]

How about Tsukuba Circuit? Thats should be a confidence boost even with a controller. Tbh, a controller isn't an excuse. One can be just have fast with a controller. A wheel won't make you any faster if you don't have your fundamentals down. Practice, practice, practice.

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I was able to get a gold time on the lap attack on the Tsukuba Circuit. It only took me 5-6 minutes, it's fairly easy for a beginner/amateur to do. I find the lap attack at Autopolis to be hard, I'm not far away from the gold time, I'm at 1'40.130, about a second off. The last section is what's killing my time, causing me to lose it.