Why are people starting to hate GT5?

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Not sure how people could hate this game. I could see if you don't race regularly online with a good group of people that the open lobbies would get tiresome after awhile. I'm lucky to have found an awesome group to race with two to three times a week 👍
 
DA__dogg
Not sure how people could hate this game. I could see if you don't race regularly online with a good group of people that the open lobbies would get tiresome after awhile. I'm lucky to have found an awesome group to race with two to three times a week 👍
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Completely agree. But pd need to work harder to ensure that gt5 doesn't get left behind. Too many tools online and samey seasonals are my biggest bug bare!
 
Tvensky
I have to say! those who are crybabies and complaining, 90% are kids/children, so don't give it any serious attention! Mature people dont use internet so much as kids, and mature people dont have time for stupid comments like "I want this, I want that", or 'this is stupid and that is stupid", "PD sucks", "GT5 is crap" and so on.. don't give it any attention!

I like the damn game, I have G27 and enjoy every minute of it.. I do understand that its far to be perfect and I try to improve or understand it here in GTP. I try to use GTP Feedback etc.

I dont like many games...

I do hate (maybe not hate but dont like them very much) games like World of Warcraft, HALO, Devil May Cry or any other game which is 100% or 10% fake (I mean like with Harry Porter :) ) style of story... but what I meant is .. I dont go to Halo forums and say how much I dont like it, that is just stupid, and I dont have time for it.. but who have so much time.. god damn kids!

don't give it any attention!
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I really hope you're not generalizing here. Some complaints are totally legit.
 
Tvensky
I have to say! those who are crybabies and complaining, 90% are kids/children, so don't give it any serious attention! Mature people dont use internet so much as kids, and mature people dont have time for stupid comments like "I want this, I want that", or 'this is stupid and that is stupid", "PD sucks", "GT5 is crap" and so on.. don't give it any attention!

I like the damn game, I have G27 and enjoy every minute of it.. I do understand that its far to be perfect and I try to improve or understand it here in GTP. I try to use GTP Feedback etc.

I dont like many games...

I do hate (maybe not hate but dont like them very much) games like World of Warcraft, HALO, Devil May Cry or any other game which is 100% or 10% fake (I mean like with Harry Porter :) ) style of story... but what I meant is .. I dont go to Halo forums and say how much I dont like it, that is just stupid, and I dont have time for it.. but who have so much time.. god damn kids!

don't give it any attention!
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So legitimate issues with GT5 shouldn't be voiced?

Oh and watch the attitude and the tone, describing those who raise issues with GT5 as crybabies and/or children is not a good idea at all.

What is even more ironic is that you are happy to take issue with those who do want to discuss the pros and cosn of the game, but it would seem its OK for you to do it.

Tvensky
PD seems to take everything they can and don't finish nothing in the end.. dont get me wrong its all good. Nascar, rally, drift etc.. I like them all.. but the problem is that non of the stuff I mentioned is finished and polished.. they all are like a big demo.. which is full GT5 where you can do almost everything but not enough -that describes GT5 for me :) 👍
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Funny that.

Scaff
 
I don't hate it, but I'm no longer in love with it as much as I was at the beginning. All the faults, weaknesses and undesirable aspects of the game are now fully ingrained into my mind, where at first I felt like it was something that would be ironed out with the evolution of the game through updates, and could easily ignore them. The rather disgraceful look of some of the standard cars is still there, albeit masked over by the addition of the changeable rims and paint that hides most of the jaggies. The after-effects still have a detrimental affect on the car underneath them and the almost complete lack of any flexibility in the game have all taken their toll on my ability to have fun with the game.
BUT,,,
I still find myself playing it on a daily basis, although it is now only for testing top speeds and accelerations for various spreadsheets here on GTP.

If the AI were given the 'I' bit, and were actually opponents rather than moving obstacles, I think there would be a dramatic drop in the amount of complaints. Also if the implementation of certain elements was handled better there would be even less to moan about. The paint system, an option to opt out of museum cards, a purchasing system for the suits and helmets etc, and practice mode would be much better if you could choose to either have random opponents or the current 'same car' for example.
The way I see it, it's still just as good as it always has been, but it's not ageing well.
 
Its getting bored after every 2 months that they "try" to realese something thats free and good. And not all kids do complain as 100% haters like my. I loved the game for quite a long time but when you now how to earn XP and CR easy it gets boring after a while because you don't need to race much for it.
 
I guess I will answer the thread question.

I don't hate GT5, but it just isn't cutting it for me anymore. I do feel the urge to drive cars stock around Nurburgring now and then but I feel that's about all it's good for. If I really want to race and have fun, I play Forza 4 and older GT games.
 
Delta795
Why is online a disgrace? I have everything done but the endurance races & I don't plan on those. I have every car I want...but it's the online racing with group of friends that keeps me playing as frequently as I do.
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I agree, most of the points moLieg makes are true but I think that PD made online play a lot better than what my expectations. Sure there are flaws but it's still very playable and online is what keeps me coming back to GT5
 
I don't hate it, things could be better in it, nobody can deny that, but it's a great game in my opinion and I still play it regularly (it happens to be my favourite PS3 game) and to be honest, I could care less what others think, I still enjoy it and thats all that matters to me. I know that sounds ignorant, but it's not intended to be.
 
One word:


Monotony


This sums up everyone's concerns I hope. I don't hate the game, nor will I ever, just the repetition is frustrating. Seasonals are killer, the A-spec, TT/DT, B-spec routine is getting very old quickly.
 
1241Penguin
It's hard for PD to interact with fans given the language barrier. That said, it's not impossible.
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That really shouldn't be used an an excuse. Yes, I'm sure a lot of the team don't speak English but it's clear some of them do. Or if there is nobody 'free' to do it hire a community manager that speaks both languages and can at the very least operate a blog, even if it's just weekly.
 
I think the term "hate" is too harsh, playing GT5 simply isn't very attractive to me. I don't play it anymore because I am put off by all the limits the game puts on me whatever I want to do, the large amount of bugs and inconsistencies and the fact that they make so little of what they have.

They could do so many great and interesting things with all the things they have: Formula 1 cars, Top Gear, Nascar, WRC, Seasonals and so on. Yet they didn't and still don't, even with the possibility of updates and seasonals. I don't really understand that. I also don't understand why there are so many illogical decisions. You just have to put an able player in front of this game for 24 hours, give him a sheet of paper and a pen, and he will highlight more than half of those questionable decisions. Give him a week, and he will cover 99%. I simply can not imagine that they didn't do this, given the time it took them to finish the game.

I do come back once in a while after the bigger updates, but I rarely last for more than a day or two, because I see myself running into the countless barriers of GT5 and end up frustrated.
 
I've been ''hating'' on GT5 from day one. It has its great moments and I do enjoy certain things, but the game as a whole is lacking. And badly. The career mode is mildly put it - boring. Also, as the Interceptor mentioned above, we've got a lot of interesting and great things that just doesn't do them any justice. They're poorly implemented and make no sense to why having them in the first place. I could go on pretty much forerver ranting about B-Spec, the restrictions, the course maker, the endless grinding, the afterthought Seasonal Events and etc., but I think you got the point.

I never really understood what was wrong with the concept of GT4 and expanding on it.
 
CorvetteConquer
Probably PD's lack of PR.

It's hard to feel like we are listened to and it's hard to feel that we are contributing to a series. Sure, we contribute MONEY, but beyond that, I feel that we are just pushed aside.

More interaction with fans would be great.

An interesting article on Japanese developers. Might sound like PD:

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mi...e-devs-are-lagging-behind-in-tech-world-view/
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more than that PD's main problem is they took 6 years to release one major game, hence getting stuck in 2004. There are several other companies going through that as well and facing the very same problems.

Time will tell if they can catch their competitors up or not, which is unlikely since those are already ahead, developing content and new ideas faster than PD does.

Id software is a good example of what might happen. They dominated PC gaming in the 1990s but they decided to keep the company small, which ended up in only releasing 2 major games in 12 years: doom3 in 2004 and rage in 2011. Between both games the company was bought by Zenimax (Bethesda's parent company) due to lack of funds, and after rage there were several layoffs and people (rage) quit the company.

As I wrote here several times, PD needs to keep releasing games just like its competition does, and for that outsourcing or expanding is a must.
They simply cannot release another subpar GT game after Forza5, dirt4, F1 2013, rfactor 2, project cars, iracing 3.0, etc. etc. Even LFS might receive a new update before PD realizes they have been doing things very poorly since 2004.
 
avens
more than that PD's main problem is they took 6 years to release one major game, hence getting stuck in 2004. There are several other companies going through that as well and facing the very same problems.

Time will tell if they can catch their competitors up or not, which is unlikely since those are already ahead, developing content and new ideas faster than PD does.

Id software is a good example of what might happen. They dominated PC gaming in the 1990s but they decided to keep the company small, which ended up in only releasing 2 major games in 12 years: doom3 in 2004 and rage in 2011. Between both games the company was bought by Zenimax (Bethesda's parent company) due to lack of funds, and after rage there were several layoffs and people (rage) quit the company.

As I wrote here several times, PD needs to keep releasing games just like its competition does, and for that outsourcing or expanding is a must.
They simply cannot release another subpar GT game after Forza5, dirt4, F1 2013, rfactor 2, project cars, iracing 3.0, etc. etc. Even LFS might receive a new update before PD realizes they have been doing things very poorly since 2004.
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This is a quality post. I have similar feelings. GT5, as disappointing as it was, still sold 7+ mil copies. But I think GT5 is a cross-roads for PD. I mean, it's no longer 1998. GT is not perfect any longer and it's not much of an innovator (day-night transitioning = most technical advance I saw). GT6 will be very indicative of PD's future, I imagine. And because no other racing sim game emerges on the PS console, perhaps PD feel safe, as if we have no choice to buy Sony consoles....but we, fans, speak loudly with our money. If we are upset, we buy new things. i.e. Forza, Xbox, Microsoft.
 
LR-MR-Cole
Seems like now a days every post or comment is from restless fans on either b-spec seasonals (which I could live without also) or no DLCs or even the game having no purpose or fun to it any more.
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It doesn't help that this is all the Gran Turismo they're going to get for a while. If GT games came along with Forza frequency, a new GT game would be here by the end of this year..., but it isn't. Logic would suggest an all-new game (using "all" loosely here, considering that GT5 consisted heavily of pre-GT5 content) no earlier than 2015, but even if we are to expect GT6 sooner based on talk about using the GT5 engine, we still probably wouldn't be looking at anything sooner than late 2013, which would mean it would still be another year and a half away. In the mean time, you either abandon GT5 for other games or sit around replaying the same game that you've already spent hundreds of hours with, and with which you are growing somewhat bored.

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I should note that I didn't read past the first page before replying, so evidently my musings sort of echo recent posts.
 
Hate is a strong word..I don't hate GT games or PD.

But lets be real.. They work slow, painfully slow.. New games should come way sooner than every 6 or 7 years.. Let's remember Kaz has never made a deadline. Everything he touches gets delayed (sometimes for years).

I think the sooner we stop making excuses for Kaz and PD, the better..
 
Not hating GT5,nor PD at all:indiff:. i like 'em but when GT6 will come out,i will rent it,and if the gameplay looks appealing then i'll buy it. i mean not it's that much of a big deal if not everyone don't like the game but meh,GT5's concept is getting old for now.:indiff:

I'll be saying that.i'm a GT5/FM4 hybrid gamer.:sly: I don't hate neither,i even like both a lot but for now i'll be a lot more on FM4. rest assured,i'm keeping GT5 nearby,i know they got lotsa potential and that GT6 is gonna be the bomb,at least that what i'm expecting.;)

If they don't come up to the expectation,too bad for haters.:dunce: I like PD and GT5 and so do i like T10 and FM4. Things need to be handled carefully nowadays,and it's up to every racing game companies to give what they can. Cheers,JC.👍
 
I don't hate GT5 at all, I actually love it and with the hybrid drift cars I love it even more. Others are starting to hate GT5 because Hybrid cars are being made and it ruins the online racing experience plus GT6 is coming out meaning some people will move on and give random 🤬 about GT5. This is what I think anyways and I could be wrong.
 
the Interceptor
I think the term "hate" is too harsh, playing GT5 simply isn't very attractive to me. I don't play it anymore because I am put off by all the limits the game puts on me whatever I want to do, the large amount of bugs and inconsistencies and the fact that they make so little of what they have.

They could do so many great and interesting things with all the things they have: Formula 1 cars, Top Gear, Nascar, WRC, Seasonals and so on. Yet they didn't and still don't, even with the possibility of updates and seasonals. I don't really understand that. I also don't understand why there are so many illogical decisions. You just have to put an able player in front of this game for 24 hours, give him a sheet of paper and a pen, and he will highlight more than half of those questionable decisions. Give him a week, and he will cover 99%. I simply can not imagine that they didn't do this, given the time it took them to finish the game.

I do come back once in a while after the bigger updates, but I rarely last for more than a day or two, because I see myself running into the countless barriers of GT5 and end up frustrated.
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I'm glad to hear people are having the same kind of frustration I am with the game. After the initial two-three months, the honeymoon was over, and I was starting to see that I really couldn't play the game the way I wanted too. It's very much Kaz's baby, and he wants you to experience the cars and racing in a very specific way.

The seasonal events are a great idea to keep it fresh, but sometimes I don't want to spend all week tuning a car to make it fast enough to win one race. And if we're going into that kind of depth, why can't we have qualifying sessions so that you're not always starting from the back? THAT part is truly annoying, especially when the lead car pulls out a 30 second lead on the first lap and sails off into the distance. Because nothing makes me like a game more than futility.

I don't hold out much hope for GT6. It needs to be more of a game. It needs to have all premium cars, way more variety of selection (read, not a zillion Skyline's), more real-life tracks, more style, more story, and better interface. In short, make it more accessible to a wider variety of gear head.
 
LR-MR-Cole
Seems like now a days every post or comment is from restless fans on either b-spec seasonals (which I could live without also) or no DLCs or even the game having no purpose or fun to it any more. Don't get me wrong I have complained too but this is to much. I play GT5 everyday all I do is test cars (and I have maybe 10 tuned cars and there RM) I leave all stock, just to test and compare cars. I get by fine with what GT has for content. However I do wish they would improve the matching of cars in arcade mode races. rally cars racing Re Anemiya rx 7 AN ART M corvettes. Stupid matching. But what im saying is, has Gran Turismo 5 really have gotten that bad. I don think so. Online is no fun cause no one is serious and sometimes its no challenge and when I find one I FR them. Is GT5 getting that bad? and yes I rambled on sorry. I would love some DLC cars though like the new 2012 Lotus Exige S maybe. Not a E46 M3< waste of time. Just give PD some respect they deserve it and Happy Motoring everyone.
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Meh, GT5 used to sit in its case for the past few months (even my PS3 sat dormant) until all the hybriding happened. Now that I got into that, GT5 is quite enjoyable.

I think it's because PD just haven't kept up with the game like T10 has, especially since they have more to offer.

It's still a good game, it's just outdated by now, especially since DLC is the big craze these days (especially a month after the game releases).
 
I love gt5 and still play it almost everyday because I'm still finding new things to do.

But PD honestly need to start releasing games more frequently, not every year but the 5 year wait was crazy. I love their games and don't think much compares, seeing as I only play ps3, but if we have to wait until 2015-16 to see a GT on ps4 I'll probably get slightly peeved and go with other games, because no doubt there will be a great sim on ps4 with the new hardware
 
Fondo458
I'm glad to hear people are having the same kind of frustration I am with the game. After the initial two-three months, the honeymoon was over, and I was starting to see that I really couldn't play the game the way I wanted too. It's very much Kaz's baby, and he wants you to experience the cars and racing in a very specific way.

The seasonal events are a great idea to keep it fresh, but sometimes I don't want to spend all week tuning a car to make it fast enough to win one race. And if we're going into that kind of depth, why can't we have qualifying sessions so that you're not always starting from the back? THAT part is truly annoying, especially when the lead car pulls out a 30 second lead on the first lap and sails off into the distance. Because nothing makes me like a game more than futility.

I don't hold out much hope for GT6. It needs to be more of a game. It needs to have all premium cars, way more variety of selection (read, not a zillion Skyline's), more real-life tracks, more style, more story, and better interface. In short, make it more accessible to a wider variety of gear head.
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Excellent post. Why is it that you either start at position 7 or 12? Is there a way to improve your starting position?
 
I agree with several posts... yes some people get bored easily and surely this happens with more than just their games, I kinda feel sorry for them. Yes GT5 has been out for a few years, which is long enough for many players to collect many of the cars that interest them, and drive them, a lot.

But I really don't see any room for monotony in GT5. Consider all that GT5 offers:
-- wagons, convertibles, pickup trucks, tuners, muscle cars, sports cars, racing modifications, supercars/exotics, GT300/500, LMP, FGT, X2010/2011
-- tuning options: tires, turbos, transmissions, suspension, weight bias, aero kits/downforce, VCD
-- paint your favorite cars and wheels!
-- drift/grip/rally racing, gymkhana, how do you like to drive?
-- variety of tracks, some of them in real locations around the world... reverse direction anyone?
-- photomode
-- arcade mode
-- gifting cars to/from your friends
-- track editor... generate your own circuit!
-- DLC
-- online racing: shuffle, PP racing, spec racing, cruise/cops, free-for-all, car show, etc.

Online racing opens up the world and it's hard to believe anyone could get bored with all the options and possibilities and the ability to connect with racers around the world.

Everyone is different and this is just how I see it.
 
I think people don't realize like I once didn't realize is that no matter how remotely good something is, you'll get tired of it if you do too much of it. Polyphony Digital didn't realize GT5 near-addicts would suffer this with the log-in bonus, because the log-in bonus will make you play GT5 every day, which is obviously too much, if you want that prized log-in bonus every time you win something in the game, plus some players in general seemed to get addicted to GT5, and also maybe tried too hard to ignore its design flaws. I always knew the log-in bonus had something wrong, because if you crave for it by playing every day to get it you'll get tired of the game. I guess people should learn for their sake to not overdo what they really like or love to do.
 
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To be honest, I just think that most people are waiting for GT6...Plus, over 600 cars on the game are Japanese, so unless you love JDM, it will get boring for the most of us.
 

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