Why do you think Sony has never done a GT open world spin-off?

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Polyphony Digital will obviously never develop an illegal street racing game. Doesn't that sound like the most unlikely thing ever? There is nothing about Gran Turismo that would even remotely translate to that, except for that it's a game with cars in it.
 
NICKname
Polyphony Digital will obviously never develop an illegal street racing game. Doesn't that sound like the most unlikely thing ever? There is nothing about Gran Turismo that would even remotely translate to that, except for that it's a game with cars in it.
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No, it doesn't sound unlikely because of that. It's a video game, it's not that deep.
 
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ImaRobot
Because they're only one studio and it takes them long enough to make one game. I just don't see them shifting their assets to someone else, at that point, Sony should just invest in a studio to get it done outside of GT.
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Never said anything about PD, isn't Sony the owner of PD?
sumbrownkid
They could have via Driveclub.

Sony dropped the ball on that in my opinion.
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Exactly, they could had put Evolution to make an open world GT.
NICKname
Polyphony Digital will obviously never develop an illegal street racing game. Doesn't that sound like the most unlikely thing ever? There is nothing about Gran Turismo that would even remotely translate to that, except for that it's a game with cars in it.
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Never said anything about illegal street racing.
Samus
Because PD aren't big enough to develop two games and Kaz won't let anyone else use the GT name.
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Does Kaz have enough pull to don't let Sony do an spin off with some other studio?
 
Dak0ta
Never said anything about PD, isn't Sony the owner of PD?
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No, you specifically said a GT Spin off, which would still be directly linked to PD. If you had no intentions of involving PD than just say an open world game.
 
They can't get rally cars to break the plastic web barriers and go off track for 2 seconds. How can we even imagine an open world?

PD live for that BONK sound

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ImaRobot
No, it doesn't sound unlikely because of that. It's a video game, it's not that deep.
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Oh, well if it's not that deep I think Polyphony Digital should do a post-apocalyptic first person shooter. Shouldn't be a problem at all for them. After all, it would just be a video game.
Dak0ta
Never said anything about illegal street racing.
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Street racing is illegal. Unless you want them to do an open world game without streets and/or racing?
 
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PD is obsessed with quality and staying true to automotive culture. Horizon is an inherently low-quality, ridiculous arcade game and that's just not something PD has ever been interested in making. That's not to say Horizon is a bad game - they're great, and that's the problem.

In fact, I'd say the Horizon games have actually tarnished the Forza name when discussing competitive driving games and simulators, precisely because Horizon is so popular that it drowns out the less popular, more serious version. Hell, I don't even know what number Forza is on these days and I'm not sure it matters. Horizon is the better game of the two and now defines the Forza name. Due to the popularity of Horizon, Playstation can now say that they offer a type of game that Xbox basically doesn't because they managed to kill their own entry into the genre.
 
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Without Evolution around, I think Firesprite might be the best studio to assist Polyphony in creating an open-world Gran Turismo.

Or, they could take a page from Assetto Corsa mods and implement the entire Shutokou expressway/Wangan into the game. Only real problem is, it could cause licensing chaos with some brands (such as Honda, back then) because they don't want to see their cars associated with street racing, whether it's portrayed as borderline illegal (even as far as adding in cops), or a recreation of it in a softcore fashion (Nowadays, Honda are back in racing games with illegal street racing such as WMMT and NFS).
 
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ImaRobot
No, you specifically said a GT Spin off, which would still be directly linked to PD. If you had no intentions of involving PD than just say an open world game.
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I was under the impression that Sony was the owner and not PD.
Samus
He's Senior Vice President of Playstation, so yes.
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TIL.
NICKname
Oh, well if it's not that deep I think Polyphony Digital should do a post-apocalyptic first person shooter. Shouldn't be a problem at all for them. After all, it would just be a video game.

Street racing is illegal. Unless you want them to do an open world game without streets and/or racing?
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You don't need to have street racing on an open world driving game, you just need to have free roam and then barriers on the parts of the city/enviroment where you want the race to take place.
 
Keef
PD is obsessed with quality and staying true to automotive culture. Horizon is an inherently low-quality, ridiculous arcade game and that's just not something PD has ever been interested in making. That's not to say Horizon is a bad game - they're great, and that's the problem.

In fact, I'd say the Horizon games have actually tarnished the Forza name when discussing competitive driving games and simulators, precisely because Horizon is so popular that it drowns out the less popular, more serious version. Hell, I don't even know what number Forza is on these days and I'm not sure it matters. Horizon is the better game of the two and now defines the Forza name. Due to the popularity of Horizon, Playstation can now say that they offer a type of game that Xbox basically doesn't because they managed to kill their own entry into the genre.
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they werent so obsessed during 5 and 6

im not the biggest forza fan but to say its a low quality, ridiculous arcade... I can agree that the Horizon brand is more famous than the Motorsport now, but to say one is better than the other... they are just different.

The last line is just ridiculous.
 
NICKname
Oh, well if it's not that deep I think Polyphony Digital should do a post-apocalyptic first person shooter. Shouldn't be a problem at all for them. After all, it would just be a video game.
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That makes no sense at all because it's literally not in the same realm. You're really grasping at air here. That much should be common sense.
 
Dak0ta
I was under the impression that Sony was the owner and not PD.

TIL.

You don't need to have street racing on an open world driving game, you just need to have free roam and then barriers on the parts of the city/enviroment where you want the race to take place.
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Free Roam without cops is boring.

Thats why I had more fun with Nfs heat than Forza Horizon or the Crew. Just no excitement.

Heck even Midnight club La had cops may not be like NFS but still they chased you if you break the law.
 
SestoScudo
Free Roam without cops is boring.

Thats why I had more fun with Nfs heat than Forza Horizon or the Crew. Just no excitement.

Heck even Midnight club La had cops may not be like NFS but still they chased you if you break the law.
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yeah, cops are so much fun, but wouldnt you play an open world driving game set in (I assume), Japan?

I had so much fan with certain NFS games but when the NFS game with cops is NFS 2015 and the arcade game with no police is any Horizon game, I take the Horizon.
 
Dak0ta
yeah, cops are so much fun, but wouldnt you play an open world driving game set in (I assume), Japan?

I had so much fan with certain NFS games but when the NFS game with cops is NFS 2015 and the arcade game with no police is any Horizon game, I take the Horizon.
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I would play if its Japan if its done right I want to see the Midnight Club, Touge races and the wangan.

I want it done right with a big emphasis on car culture especially Japanese car culture but I doubt it as PG right now cares about casuals more hence why you see crap like legos in horizon 4.

Horizon went from a game catered to a mature audience to now catering for kids.
 
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SestoScudo
I would play if its Japan if its done right I want to see the Midnight Club, Touge races and the wangan.

I want it done right with a big emphasis on car culture especially Japanese car culture but I doubt it as PG right now cares about casuals more hence why you see crap like legos in horizon 4.

Horizon went from a game catered to a mature audience to now catering for kids.
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im talking about a GT open world game set in Japan, not Forza
 
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SestoScudo
Free Roam without cops is boring.
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Citation needed.

SestoScudo
Horizon went from a game catered to a mature audience to now catering for kids.
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Opinion. And besides, shouldn't it be important for a racing game like Horizon to appeal to as many people as possible instead of turbo nerds like those in this forum?
 
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Keef
PD is obsessed with quality and staying true to automotive culture. Horizon is an inherently low-quality, ridiculous arcade game and that's just not something PD has ever been interested in making. That's not to say Horizon is a bad game - they're great, and that's the problem.

In fact, I'd say the Horizon games have actually tarnished the Forza name when discussing competitive driving games and simulators, precisely because Horizon is so popular that it drowns out the less popular, more serious version. Hell, I don't even know what number Forza is on these days and I'm not sure it matters. Horizon is the better game of the two and now defines the Forza name. Due to the popularity of Horizon, Playstation can now say that they offer a type of game that Xbox basically doesn't because they managed to kill their own entry into the genre.
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Actually, I feel it's quite the opposite. It allows Motorsport to actually buckle down and have a focus, now. They now have Forza Horizon to appeal to the masses while they can make a more centralized and better Motorsport game. Horizon's popularity has changed none of that for me. I doubt Microsoft would allow T10 such freedom they have with the next Motorsport game if the series was basically killed off. At this point, PlayStation and Microsoft both have an extremely similar games for their respective system. Horizon is the more accessible game to the vast majority of the people, that's it's appeal, not that it's necessarily the better game. So hopefully they do something with this freedom they've been given in developing an actual next gen game, because if they don't make use of it all, I feel this is what will actually nail down Forza Motorsports Coffin rather than what you just pointed out.
 
Dak0ta
You don't need to have street racing on an open world driving game, you just need to have free roam and then barriers on the parts of the city/enviroment where you want the race to take place.
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And inbetween the races, the players will be forced to adhere to the speed limit and other road laws, or...?
ImaRobot
That makes no sense at all because it's literally not in the same realm. You're really grasping at air here. That much should be common sense.
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It's a video game, it's not that deep.
 
I would love to have some more real world roads available. So much great roads and scenery out there. Pikes Peak, Targa Florio, Mille Miglia, sigh .....
 
Dak0ta
im talking about a GT open world game set in Japan, not Forza
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PD could get it right but it should not have a Gran Turismo name on it. It should be its own series or a spin off. Or we would end with up Forza series being muddled between Motorsport and Horizon.

PD even did Tourist trophy so they did not even use the name Gran Turismo for it.
 
SestoScudo
PD could get it right but it should not have a Gran Turismo name on it. It should be its own series or a spin off. Or we would end with up Forza series being muddled between Motorsport and Horizon.

PD even did Tourist trophy so they did not even use the name Gran Turismo for it.
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did you even read the title of the post?
 
NICKname
And inbetween the races, the players will be forced to adhere to the speed limit and other road laws, or...?

It's a video game, it's not that deep.
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in between the races, the players wouldnt be forced to anything, its a free roam game

im not saying anything about deepness
 
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NICKname
It's a video game, it's not that deep.
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Oh I see what's going on here.

Show me on the doll where the comment hurt you:
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You're right it wasn't deep what you said, it was just kind dumb thing to say. We're talking about car games and how real world road laws mean little in regard to what games are made, and you bring up a a post apocalyptic first person shooter because you didn't like what was said.
 
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Having a "Car RPG", may hurt GT, as it may take away the casual audience. GT tries to do a bit of everything, even if not particularly well, trying to appeal to as many people as possible. Having another competitor in that regard doesn't seem such a good idea for Sony and PD.

Meanwhile, nothing stops them from hiring an extra team that specializes in the creation of an open world map, even if with 1/5 the size of Forza's, and add it to GT either as a new mode for the base game, or as a DLC. So now you'd have in the same game, race tracks, and an open world map, without the need for an entirely new game.
 

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